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Zeitgeist (W/Book) (Spec) Special Edition

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Ltd. Edition. "Photo-album" style book w/ CD & 78 pg. book bound with post and screw; features diecut "windows;" disc included in diecut disc pocket inside back cover. No Addt'l music.

Inside the buzzing hive of Smashing Pumpkins' guitars is clearly where bandleader Billy Corgan feels most comfortable. So, after a seven-year hiatus for the short-lived group Zwan and his surprisingly sunny 2005 solo album, Corgan has revived the Pumpkins in all the six-string-spattered shades of emotional gray that made them one of the greatest bands of the alt-rock era. Longtime drummer Jimmy Chamberlin, along with famed boardsmiths Roy Thomas Baker and Terry Date as well as Corgan himself coproduced. Chamberlin also supports mountainous layers of guitar with his fiercest playing. This is a version of the band dedicated to early bare-knuckled form, with a few exceptions: Corgan's grown into a more powerful wordsmith and his lengthy guitar solo explorations of yore are replaced with a trim, barbed textural approach that's ultimately more vicious. That is, until the centerpiece "United States" stretches into an epic punk-metal-informed sibling of Jimi Hendrix's "Machine Gun," with Corgan's strings singing like explosions and twisting metal as he warbles about revolution. Much of this album conjures literal and sonic visions of apocalypse, but there's grace, too, in the blithe grind of the hopeful "That's the Way (My Love Is)" and the melodic "Neverlost." Overall, Corgan's captivating effort to mine both the spirit of these turbulent times and the soul of his defining band is a smashing success. --Ted Drozdowski

Track Listings

Disc: 1

  1. Doomsday Clock
  2. 7 Shades Of Black
  3. Bleeding the Orchid
  4. That's the Way (My Love Is)
  5. Tarantula
  6. Starz
  7. United States
  8. Neverlost
  9. Bring the Light
  10. (Come On) Let's Go!
  11. For God And Country
  12. Pomp And Circumstances

Product Details

  • Audio CD (July 10, 2007)
  • special_edition edition
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Format: Special Edition
  • Label: Reprise / Wea
  • Average Customer Review: 3.7 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (253 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #442,604 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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Is this really a Smashing Pumpkins album? That's the question most people seemed to be concerned with, first and foremost, with regard to the "band's" new album "Zeitgeist" (2007).

The cynicism is totally understandable. After all, only two musicians who were part of the original band that broke-up in 2000, actually play on the album, singer/songwriter Billy Corgan and drummer Jimmy Chamberlin. The other members, bassist D'arcy and guitarist James Iha declined to join in on the reunion. On a related note, some people are wondering why Corgan is using the name "Smashing Pumpkins" at all. After all, Chamberlin played on Corgan's side project ZWAN, for their lone album "Mary Star of the Sea" (2003). So why not just call this project ZWAN's second album as opposed to the Smashing Pumpkins sixth? (seventh if you include 2000s "Machina II").

So is this CD just a cash-grab from Corgan, who wants to milk the name "Smashing Pumpkins" for all its worth? Perhaps. But while the cynic in me says that may be the case, I would still argue this to be a Smashing Pumpkins album.

For better or worse, Corgan is, and always has been the Smashing Pumpkins. When the Pumpkins were officially "a band" throughout the 90s, in addition to being the band's lead singer/songwriter/guitar player, Corgan would also play over D'arcy and Iha's parts if he wasn't satisfied. Truth of the matter is, Iha and D'arcy were probably less important to the overall sound of the Pumpkins than Noel Redding and Mitch Mitchell were to the sound of the Jimi Hendrix Experience. So if Corgan wants to resurrect the moniker "Smashing Pumpkins," without the others, it's really his right to do so.
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This new silver limited edition of Zeitgeist (Best Buy exclusive released 10/30/07) includes three songs that are not on the original release:

"Death From Above" (4:06) (track 08) (also available on the Best Buy version, Japanese version, German version, version, and a B-side of "Tarantula"). It is a softer, driving song that is a great mix of keyboards, guitar, and drums. This song is certainly a welcome missing treat from the original Zeitgeist.

"Stellar" (6:24) (track 12) (also available on the iTunes version, and a B-side on "That's the Way (My Love Is)"). It is a beautiful slower song.

"Ma Belle" (4:08) (track 13) (Previously Unreleased) is also slow, but it builds at about the halfway point.

All three songs are more than welcome. They are all recorded by Terry Date and Bjorn Thorsrud. They are all performed by Jimmy Chamberlin (Drums) and Billy Corgan (All the rest). "Death From Above" and "Stellar" are produced by BC/JC (Billy Corgan and Jimmy Chamberlin). "Ma Belle" is produced by BC/JC and Terry Date.

So this Silver version is still missing the known Zeitgeist recording session songs "Zeitgeist","Gossamer", "Superchrist", and "Signal to Noise" ... but, of course, then it would have to be two CDs because this version is 67 minutes and 6 seconds long ("Gossamer" alone is rumored to be 15 - 35 minutes long).

The DVD has a 20 minute documentary called "Inside the Zeitgeist". Picture Format 4 X 3. It is in NTSC All Region format according the back of the disc. The back also says Linear PCM (Linear pulse code modulation).

There is no booklet with this release. It is a cardboard gatefold cover with plastic inserts that hold the 2 discs.
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Upon listening to the live stream promo release of the Smashing Pumpkins new album Zeitgeist, I wasn't very impressed. The definitive Pumpkins sound was in there somewhere, but I thought it was lost in the mix somehow. The vocals were too sharp and high in the mix and the layered vocals bordered on ridiculous in songs like Starz. Moreover, Jimmy Chamberlin's excellent drumming was buried in some parts. Perhaps working with Roy Thomas Baker (producer for Queen, The Cars...) was a mistake? Maybe recording the album with Butch Vig (Nevermind, Siamese Dream) would have been a better idea, to help recapture the magic of old?

Tonight I received an email telling me I could download my pre-order of Zeitgeist through iTunes (normally I don't buy lossy music but I wanted the code for advance concert ticket orders). After loading it into my iPod I settled in to give the album a proper listen and decide whether my original impression of the album would stand.

Firstly, the album version sounds much better than the internet streams and leaks. Anyone who steals this album and thinks is sounds bad needs to take a listen from a CD or official source. It is amazing how much worse a badly compressed file can sound. If the iTunes version sounds this good, then I am getting the CD ASAP to see if it is even better. The production is very clean, and while I would still have liked the vocals to be mixed slightly lower, I feel that I can live with them as the guitars now hold their own and the drums are solid. The album doesn't sound like any other Pumpkins record so comparisons can be thrown out the window but dark and sultry are the closest adjectives I can find to describe the production.
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This are not The Smashing Pumpkins
Not really, Billy says he wanted to revieve the Pumpkins and he has. Two people have left the band. Corgan himself played most of the instruments in studio for some of the earlier albums. Plus, through the release of his solo album and his self release of Machina 2, has shown he doesn't care to... Read More
Jul 4, 2007 by J. Brian Barker |  See all 60 posts
Yet ANOTHER version...when will the madness end!!??
Never. I know a number of people that actually bought each and every one...which would be: the red standard version, the purple Target version with the bonus track "Zeitgeist," the yellow first Best Buy one with the bonus track "Death From Above," the blue iTunes one with the... Read More
Dec 16, 2007 by Andrew Vice |  See all 4 posts
One word comes to mind as I listen to this album...
one word comes to my mind.. it starts with S, ends with T and has H and I in the middle.
Aug 15, 2007 by David Smith |  See all 22 posts
What is the difference between this edition and the cheaper one?
From the Dallas Pumpkins Myspace page:

"A lot of you have heard by now that there is going to be multiple versions of Zeitgeist when it is released on July 10th. There is officially eight different versions of the album (not including the two different vinyl colors).

Here's the... Read More
Jun 23, 2007 by Stumbleine |  See all 14 posts
The album is a grower...
I couldn't agree with you more. I was a bit disappointed in the album on my first listen. The mix on the Cd is very different form their other albums. Billy's voice is definitely one thing that is mixed drastically different. Another benefit of listening to it several times is that it helps you... Read More
Jul 16, 2007 by Daniel Halladay |  See all 7 posts
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