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  • Audio CD (July 10, 2007)
  • Original Release Date: 2007
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Format: Import
  • Label: Martha's Music / Reprise
  • ASIN: B000OQF6N6
  • In-Print Editions: Audio CD  |  MP3 Music
  • Average Customer Review: 3.6 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (237 customer reviews)
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Inside the buzzing hive of Smashing Pumpkins' guitars is clearly where bandleader Billy Corgan feels most comfortable. So, after a seven-year hiatus for the short-lived group Zwan and his surprisingly sunny 2005 solo album, Corgan has revived the Pumpkins in all the six-string-spattered shades of emotional gray that made them one of the greatest bands of the alt-rock era. Longtime drummer Jimmy Chamberlin, along with famed boardsmiths Roy Thomas Baker and Terry Date as well as Corgan himself coproduced. Chamberlin also supports mountainous layers of guitar with his fiercest playing. This is a version of the band dedicated to early bare-knuckled form, with a few exceptions: Corgan's grown into a more powerful wordsmith and his lengthy guitar solo explorations of yore are replaced with a trim, barbed textural approach that's ultimately more vicious. That is, until the centerpiece "United States" stretches into an epic punk-metal-informed sibling of Jimi Hendrix's "Machine Gun," with Corgan's strings singing like explosions and twisting metal as he warbles about revolution. Much of this album conjures literal and sonic visions of apocalypse, but there's grace, too, in the blithe grind of the hopeful "That's the Way (My Love Is)" and the melodic "Neverlost." Overall, Corgan's captivating effort to mine both the spirit of these turbulent times and the soul of his defining band is a smashing success. --Ted Drozdowski

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The Smashing Pumpkins are back! After seven years, the acclaimed Pumpkins have returned with Zeitgeist. Featuring the single "Tarantula," this new sound is not to be missed.

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167 of 191 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars give ol' baldy a break July 10, 2007
Format:Audio CD
Is this really a Smashing Pumpkins album? That's the question most people seemed to be concerned with, first and foremost, with regard to the "band's" new album "Zeitgeist" (2007).

The cynicism is totally understandable. After all, only two musicians who were part of the original band that broke-up in 2000, actually play on the album, singer/songwriter Billy Corgan and drummer Jimmy Chamberlin. The other members, bassist D'arcy and guitarist James Iha declined to join in on the reunion. On a related note, some people are wondering why Corgan is using the name "Smashing Pumpkins" at all. After all, Chamberlin played on Corgan's side project ZWAN, for their lone album "Mary Star of the Sea" (2003). So why not just call this project ZWAN's second album as opposed to the Smashing Pumpkins sixth? (seventh if you include 2000s "Machina II").

So is this CD just a cash-grab from Corgan, who wants to milk the name "Smashing Pumpkins" for all its worth? Perhaps. But while the cynic in me says that may be the case, I would still argue this to be a Smashing Pumpkins album.

For better or worse, Corgan is, and always has been the Smashing Pumpkins. When the Pumpkins were officially "a band" throughout the 90s, in addition to being the band's lead singer/songwriter/guitar player, Corgan would also play over D'arcy and Iha's parts if he wasn't satisfied. Truth of the matter is, Iha and D'arcy were probably less important to the overall sound of the Pumpkins than Noel Redding and Mitch Mitchell were to the sound of the Jimi Hendrix Experience. So if Corgan wants to resurrect the moniker "Smashing Pumpkins," without the others, it's really his right to do so. Since Corgan is the major creative force in whatever project he undertakes, whether it is the Smashing Pumpkins, ZWAN or a Corgan solo album, the name doesn't really matter, as Corgan calls the shots. If he wants to make an album under the Smashing Pumpkins banner, more power to him.

I think a lot of people want this album to bomb. There seems to be an almost irrational hatred towards Corgan, an artist that these same critics were praising a decade ago. I've read a couple reviews and most of them mainly focus on how using the name "Smashing Pumpkins" is intellectually dishonest and call Corgan a has-been, etc.

I say enough already. Give the cue-ball a break. If it's a good album, it's a good album, if it sucks, it sucks; but at least judge "Zeitgeist" on its own merit...which brings me to my review...

"Zeitgeist" is a good album. Is it that best I've ever heard or even the best Smashing Pumpkins album? No, but it's still a good CD.

"Zeitgeist" is probably most comparable to the Pumpkins (official) swan-song "Machina/the Machines of God," in that it's a straight-up rock album, for the most part eschewing the dream-pop, "alternative" leanings of the band's early work. Compared to "Machina," however, "Zeitgeist" sounds less polished and a little more organic. And while there are some ambitious moments on "Zeitgeist," like the nearly ten-minute long "United States," or the lush closing "Pomp and Circumstance," the album overall is less arty, more meat-and-potatoes and to the point than its predecessor.

Fans of the Pumpkins early work, "Gish" (1991) Siamese Dream, (1993) and "Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness" (1995) who didn't like the arena rocking "Machina" may be turned off by the sound and style of "Zeitgeist." However, the new SP album should please those fans that did like "Machina" and should also please rock fans in general. So give ol' baldy a break, forget about the reasons for him using the name "Smashing Pumpkins" and try to go into this CD with an open mind.
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85 of 104 people found the following review helpful
Format:Audio CD
Upon listening to the live stream promo release of the Smashing Pumpkins new album Zeitgeist, I wasn't very impressed. The definitive Pumpkins sound was in there somewhere, but I thought it was lost in the mix somehow. The vocals were too sharp and high in the mix and the layered vocals bordered on ridiculous in songs like Starz. Moreover, Jimmy Chamberlin's excellent drumming was buried in some parts. Perhaps working with Roy Thomas Baker (producer for Queen, The Cars...) was a mistake? Maybe recording the album with Butch Vig (Nevermind, Siamese Dream) would have been a better idea, to help recapture the magic of old?

Tonight I received an email telling me I could download my pre-order of Zeitgeist through iTunes (normally I don't buy lossy music but I wanted the code for advance concert ticket orders). After loading it into my iPod I settled in to give the album a proper listen and decide whether my original impression of the album would stand.

Firstly, the album version sounds much better than the internet streams and leaks. Anyone who steals this album and thinks is sounds bad needs to take a listen from a CD or official source. It is amazing how much worse a badly compressed file can sound. If the iTunes version sounds this good, then I am getting the CD ASAP to see if it is even better. The production is very clean, and while I would still have liked the vocals to be mixed slightly lower, I feel that I can live with them as the guitars now hold their own and the drums are solid. The album doesn't sound like any other Pumpkins record so comparisons can be thrown out the window but dark and sultry are the closest adjectives I can find to describe the production.

Upon pressing play, the album launches into overdrive with tracks, Doomsday Clock and 7 Shades of Black. The buzzing drone of Doomsday Clock channels a more radio friendly version of Bodies from MCIS, and 7 Shades recalls the track Dross from the group's free internet release Machina II, with a little bit of Geek USA and Sabbath thrown in for good measure. Unfortunately, missing is the fast/slow dynamic of earlier Pumpkins songs. Still, very solid tracks.

Bleeding the Orchid is a dark, undulating track that continues the dark tone of the album, and sounds like a long lost b-side from Gish. This track is the first to make apparent the trend of vocal layering used throughout the album, for good or bad.

In a wash of warm faded guitars, Thats the Way (My Love Is) reminds of a Zwan take on Stand Inside Your Love. "Of course I love you baby/'cause i'm alive" sings Billy, and one can't help but wonder if he is speaking to former lover Courtney Love.

Before listening to Tarantula, it is apparent that the lyrics of Zeitgeist are pseudo-political from lines like "in whitewashed halls/their jackals lick their paws...", but after listening to Tarantula it becomes apparent what the title Zeitgeist (The Spirit of the times) means.

If the lyrics "don't let me say this/but you're no worse than me/its crazy/we are the real/if real ever was/and just because/we are the real/they feel we have enough" aren't enough to interpret Billy's motives, the not too subtle single cover with Paris Hilton standing in front of a mushroom cloud with a Blackberry in hand completely gives them away. The concept of the album centers around America's apathy and languorous attitude concerning the political and social climate produced by our leaders and felt by people around the world. Indeed, the climate of bloggers and MySpace has led to a public more interested in Britney's Spears' haircut than more serious subjects. Although Billy admits, Paris and his listeners are no worse than him, as we are all "Starz". Someone, (the internet, paparazzi, corporations?) gave us sound. Starz is a repetitive, David Bowie/Ziggy Stardust homage with more vocal layering which reaffirms the earlier thematic elements discussed.

After Starz, the album reaches it's climax with the rollicking 9:51 minute track United States. This track is indulgent, but it is nevertheless impressive and obviously meant to be a live jam track with warbled guitars and Billy exclaiming "revolution!/what will they do to you?".

The bombastic United States is followed by a 1979 inspired track Neverlost with marimbas in the background. Although many will skip this track while listening to the album, it is important because it sets the tone for the second half of the album which turns from dark and brooding to hopeful. "Lets kill these hours/and fill desire" Billy croons in this love song.

Bring the Light, is the newest sounding song on the album, and although repetitive, it sounds like a radio single with its catchy lyrics and Brian May/Ava Adore guitar solo.

(Come On), Lets Go! is Pop-Grunge (oxymoron?) at its finest and is somehow eerily similar to Today. Billy sings about escaping "c'mon lets go/beyond the great unknown/beyond their punched-up skulls/to die upon this road". C'mon Billy, any Grunge fan knows it's not a great unknown it's a "Superunknown".

The final two songs sound very much out of place. Billy slips back into dark and brooding mode with "God and Country" which sounds like a b-side from Adore or Machina with its synth-pop mechanics. However, it would never fit on those albums with its political message.

Pomp and Circumstance is difficult to describe but if you have seen movies like 1492: Conquest of Paradise, or other period exploration movies you will recognize the influence. The Tribal Island sounds remind of perhaps The Thin Red Line? The song is hopeful. So thematically, it fits the arch of sounds Billy has created, but still somehow it still doesn't seem to fit.

Zeitgeist judged against other Pumpkins works isn't their best and isn't their worst. As noted in many web forums, Jame Iha and D'arcy Wretsky had very little to do with the recording of the classic Pumpkins records so it is difficult to say if their influence is missed here.

The Smashing Pumpkins are an ever changing sound imagined by Billy Corgan and made possible by the remarkable rhythms produced by Jimmy Chamberlin. Each Pumpkins album is different and meant to be appreciated on its own, and on its own Zeitgeist is great. Highlights for me are: 7 Shades, Bring the Light, Tarantula, Starz, Bleeding the Orchid, and (Come On).
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5.0 out of 5 stars A great extension of a great album November 2, 2007
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This new silver limited edition of Zeitgeist (Best Buy exclusive released 10/30/07) includes three songs that are not on the original release:

"Death From Above" (4:06) (track 08) (also available on the Best Buy version, Japanese version, German version, Amazon.de version, and a B-side of "Tarantula"). It is a softer, driving song that is a great mix of keyboards, guitar, and drums. This song is certainly a welcome missing treat from the original Zeitgeist.

"Stellar" (6:24) (track 12) (also available on the iTunes version, and a B-side on "That's the Way (My Love Is)"). It is a beautiful slower song.

"Ma Belle" (4:08) (track 13) (Previously Unreleased) is also slow, but it builds at about the halfway point.

All three songs are more than welcome. They are all recorded by Terry Date and Bjorn Thorsrud. They are all performed by Jimmy Chamberlin (Drums) and Billy Corgan (All the rest). "Death From Above" and "Stellar" are produced by BC/JC (Billy Corgan and Jimmy Chamberlin). "Ma Belle" is produced by BC/JC and Terry Date.

So this Silver version is still missing the known Zeitgeist recording session songs "Zeitgeist","Gossamer", "Superchrist", and "Signal to Noise" ... but, of course, then it would have to be two CDs because this version is 67 minutes and 6 seconds long ("Gossamer" alone is rumored to be 15 - 35 minutes long).

The DVD has a 20 minute documentary called "Inside the Zeitgeist". Picture Format 4 X 3. It is in NTSC All Region format according the back of the disc. The back also says Linear PCM (Linear pulse code modulation).

There is no booklet with this release. It is a cardboard gatefold cover with plastic inserts that hold the 2 discs. The silver cover is very cool, but it ruins the double meaning of having a red ocean around the statue of liberty (is it blood, a sunset, or a sunrise?).

So, can you live without the bonus tracks? Not if you are a Billy or Pumpkins fan. If you are a casual fan and already own Zeitgeist Red, Yellow, Purple, Blue, Green, etc... then, eh, maybe not...but if you collect all of the colors, you can make an Andy Warhol-esque collage. If you don't own this album yet, and you have been thinking about it... GO GET THIS VERSION! It may still be available at Best Buy, but more then likely it sold out very fast.

Full Track listing:

1. "Doomsday Clock" - 3:44
2. "7 Shades of Black" - 3:17
3. "Bleeding the Orchid" - 4:03
4. "That's the Way (My Love Is)" - 3:48
5. "Tarantula" - 3:51
6. "Starz" - 3:43
7. "United States" - 9:53
8. "Death From Above" - 4:06
9. "Bring the Light" - 3:40
10. "(Come On) Let's Go!" - 3:19
11. "Neverlost" - 4:20
12. "Stellar" - 6:22
13. "Ma Belle" - 4:08
14. "For God and Country" - 4:24
15. "Pomp and Circumstances" - 4:21
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5.0 out of 5 stars great cd
great cd for any pumpkins fan. too bad music is nowhere near as good as this nowdays. i recommend buying it.
Published 13 days ago by Jason Kilgore
4.0 out of 5 stars pretty good
Classic pumpkins. I have always loved this band, This album is no exception. most others will appreciate as well. as well
Published 6 months ago by johnny .d. mills Jr.
5.0 out of 5 stars The best Smashing Pumpkins album since Mellon Collie and the Infinite...
This is the 2nd best Smashing Pumpkins album after Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness. Doomsday Clock, 7 Shades of Black, Bleeding the Orchid, That's the Way my love is,... Read more
Published 6 months ago by Poetic Loner
4.0 out of 5 stars TOP NOTCH ALBUM FROM EXCELLENT MUSICIANS
The songs on this album are catchy and a little dark at times but over all id say its every bit as good as any of your own personal favorite pumpkin albums. Read more
Published 9 months ago by adameel
4.0 out of 5 stars Better than Machina and Adore.......
Like most bands that have been around for decades - the Smashing Pumpkins have a full suitcase full of different sounds from different eras. Read more
Published 11 months ago by Ofsilence
4.0 out of 5 stars Am I a bad person if I like this?
So many people dislike this album and I tried to find out why. I looked through numerous professional reviews of "Zeitgeist" and below are the two main reasons why it was so... Read more
Published 11 months ago by J. GARRATT
1.0 out of 5 stars Rename Smashing Pumpkins to Billy's Ego
What happened to the Pumpkins? Oh yeah now I remember, Billy Corgan is a control freak and basically chased the other talented members off, and now that they're all gone he's... Read more
Published 11 months ago by I'm Right
5.0 out of 5 stars A Signficiant SP Album From A Different Perceptive...
Back when I first listened to this album I was just starting to get into music. It's easy to say that basically I had only known their greatest hits & hadn't listened to all their... Read more
Published 11 months ago by Eden
4.0 out of 5 stars An excellent hard rock album
Zeitgeist has received a lot of flak since it was released, most of the criticism being drawn from the fact that neither D'arcy or James Iha appear on the album. Read more
Published 13 months ago by A. Taylor
3.0 out of 5 stars Not a Smashing Pumpkins album but decent
One thing needs to be addressed here: D'Arcy Wretscky (bass) and James Iha (lead guitar) had no involvement with this album. Read more
Published 15 months ago by Shelley D. Bowen
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This are not The Smashing Pumpkins
Not really, Billy says he wanted to revieve the Pumpkins and he has. Two people have left the band. Corgan himself played most of the instruments in studio for some of the earlier albums. Plus, through the release of his solo album and his self release of Machina 2, has shown he doesn't care to... Read more
Jul 4, 2007 by J. Brian Barker |  See all 60 posts
Is there a VINYL aka LP version of ZEITGEIST!!!?? (not the Tarantula Vinyl)
Should be out in about a week according to some of the vinyl shops online. 180g 2 disc - seen prices anywhere from $19 - $36.
Sep 3, 2007 by Justin Kasulka |  See all 5 posts
Yet ANOTHER version...when will the madness end!!??
Never. I know a number of people that actually bought each and every one...which would be: the red standard version, the purple Target version with the bonus track "Zeitgeist," the yellow first Best Buy one with the bonus track "Death From Above," the blue iTunes one with the... Read more
Dec 16, 2007 by Andrew Vice |  See all 4 posts
impressions based on song titles and Tarantula single
I've heard about 6 tracks from their live shows, and I can honestly say, at the very least, I like them all.. I really really love "Bleeding The Orchid."

Tarantula is a good first single.. Kind of makes me think of Zwan if they recorded Machina.. (With the style of the back-up harmonies)
Jun 11, 2007 by B. Moore |  See all 29 posts
Where can I download 'Death From Above'?
Here you go: http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/541175_tzrpf/15DeathFromAbove.mp3

Paste the link into your browser to download it since amazon won't make it clickable.
Nov 2, 2007 by Shdwfthsun |  See all 2 posts
One word comes to mind as I listen to this album...
hahah your people are so wrong. When i listen you saying that Zeitgeist is bad.. i fell ashmed of Billy Corgan have fans like you people..

For a example.. If you people are fan.. and saying that Zeitgeist its bad.. well.. What you people think about Machina? or Adore? or Siamase Dream?

I think... Read more
Jul 11, 2007 by Roberto C. F. Silva |  See all 22 posts
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