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35 of 35 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Something of a Mixed Bag, May 26, 2006
I'm giving this book four stars because while there was a lot of good stuff in here, there was also some problematic material. To me, four stars should mean: a good book for those who are sharp enough and open enough to read thoughtfully and reflectively, taking the good and rejecting the occasional misstep.
In order to make this review at least somewhat useful to those considering whether to read or buy the book, I'll make a few general comments. First off, the writing style is very good. There is well-written prose, reasonably creative dialogue, narrative, poetry, targum, just about as many genres as one book could handle. This allowed the book to seem fresh each time I picked it up, and also kept it from getting old fast. Secondly, however, I should note that the book covers a wide range of issues and can get somewhat technical. It is definitely more accessible than say Barth or Aquinas, but it is still worth reading carefully. In particular, I'm thinking of A. Travison's review. Either he didn't understand the discussion of Postmodernism at all, or his comments are simply dishonest caricatures. To be generous, I'll assume that he just should have read that section a little more slowly.
Far from being an assault on reason, this book provides an insightful and balanced--if somewhat brief and condensed--analysis and CRITIQUE of postmodernism. They are not Postmodernists who think that everything is up in the air. They are not saying that we need to abandon reason. They are saying that "conservative" (for lack of a better word) reactions to Postmodernism have been shallow and naïve. They are saying that we need to calm down and not make an idol out of rationality. And we need to realize that we do carry a worldview with us into EVERY intellectual discussion in which we engage. So we can't pretend that we are unbiased thinkers. This insight is not new even to staunchly conservative Christians--just read Cornelius Van Til or Greg Bahnsen--even if they come to slightly different conclusions. I do not think this book is far from the truth, and its discussion of Postmodernism is certainly valuable for being honest with that movement and then moving forward to something better.
While the book is pretty liberal (I consider myself liberal politically, and this book goes beyond what I would do), it is also quite Biblical in most of its ethical discussions (in other words, it seems to be theologically conservative). The criticisms of American economic policy is quite proper. The call for us to live a radically selfless lifestyle in order to insure justice for the poor of the world is right on. In our drive to have more and better things we are destroying the environment and human life, what is wrong with pointing this out and saying we should do something radical to change it?
On the down side is their discussion of husband/wife, parents/children and master/slave relationships. As with much of the book the discussion is somewhat underdeveloped. They don't ever get around to really saying what exactly the husband/wife or parents/children relationships should look like, for example. They do make it sound a lot like Paul didn't really mean it when he said that wives should submit to their husbands. It is made to sound as though any and all hierarchical relationships are inherently abusive, but I don't think such a claim could be maintained. Sadly, they are less clear in this section than I would have liked (or, perhaps I just need to reread it more carefully).
My only general complaint is that their exegesis is weak on the whole. Even when I agreed with their conclusions or principles (which was often), it seemed as though they were stretching to dig it out of Colossians.
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30 of 33 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
A True Remixing, November 14, 2005
This book essentially takes N.T. Wright's Pauline theology seriously and tries to re-situate Paul's message in Colossians into the contemporary postmodern, postcolonial context. To put it succinctly, Wright argues that Paul's essentially Jewish view of the messianic king wasn't some "heavenly" or "spiritual" king but a very this-worldly king. I.e., the kingdom of God isn't something we simply die into, but something that God is also bringing onto earth in all its fullness (social, political, spiritual, etc.). Thus, if Paul says Jesus is the messianic king (which, per the Davidic covenant and psalms, means also king of the world), his kingship necessarily confronts the claims of all other kings, especially the Caesar of the then-world empire Rome. Drawing similarities between the ancient Roman empire and today's American global democratic-capitalistic "empire", Walsh and Keesmaat attempt to give Paul a contemporary "voice". In other words, they suggest that the messiahship and lordship of Jesus necessarily subverts the absolute world powers today (esp. American-style global capitalism), whose influence is social, political, economic, spiritual, etc. Thus, Colossians calls us to live in subversion to today's empire.
A few reviews seem to interpret this book as a biblical justification for a leftist politic (or terrorism!). I can understand how such a reading can take place. The authors do not mince words in criticising the powers that be, and they do go at it strong on a few of their socio-political views. However, their message and approach is too valuable for these things to be stumbling blocks. There is a greater challenge in this book than about debating between the left and the right. (I should also warn those with leftist leanings to read closely enough to be challenged and not simply assume that their recapitulation of Paul is essentially leftist.)
This book won't appeal to everyone though, which, I believe explains the polarized views. If you have grown up with a distinctly postmodern sense of suspicion, then this book has a message for you. The authors have a way of both engaging you and challenging you at the same time. This book is not easily digested (both its message and the density in which it is presented) nor can you simply nod to its message. It necessarily makes you feel uncomfortable.
What should be made clear about this book is that it is not a book ABOUT postmodern Christianity, it IS a postmodern Christian book (for better or worse).
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18 of 19 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Read this Book!, April 16, 2005
I am another person who has only great things to say about this book. This is my first Amazon book review and I decided to write it because I would love to see people buy and read this book. I can be described as having been an "out of church Christian" and have struggled for many years over the form of Christianity that too often sells the Gospel and use Christ as a tool to win converts. I am also as an individual wedged between Modernity and Post-Modernity. There are a lot of books that have come out in recent years that tackle suck questions, but I have found this to be head and shoulders the best for a couple of reasons. First it uses scripture almost exclusively to form its thesis. It is at the core a Bible commentary. Whlile the post-modern in me does want to throw off reason as an idol, I do not trust paths that are forged outside of scripture as a base. It also does not cherry pick scripture to come to a conslusion that the authors want to assert, the conversation comes straight out of Colossians. Their view comes out of Colossians rather than down on Colossians. Second and most importaintly the "answer" the authors point to is Christ. It sounds trite, but if you have read Colossians it is rather obvious. The man Jesus is the one who made everything and is the one in whom all tings hold together. Now that is a huge thing to wrap your brain around and I have not found many authors who have tried to tackle it seriously and practically for us who are living in the curent day. It is a great book to read together with others. It is a rather sophisticated book and it is not the easiest of reads. We have started a Bible study on Colossians around it and it has been very good. I also find it very interesting that this book was written by Canadians.
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