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22 of 24 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
"Do you answer every question with a question?", July 19, 2005
Way back in the day legendary martial artist/cinematic icon Bruce Lee set out, along with fellow actor and student James Coburn, to create a film with the intent of displaying the spiritual side of martial arts along with imparting some of their philosophical Zen beliefs. Brought in to assist the men was screenwriter Stirling Silliphant, also one of Lee's students, whose other works include In the Heat of the Night (1967), The Poseidon Adventure (1972), and The Towering Inferno (1974). Anyway, the treatment, titled The Silent Flute, was finished, but apparently there was some difficulty in getting it made into a film, until about 5 years after Lee passed away, when producer Sandy Howard (A Man Called Horse, The Island of Dr. Moreau) took interest, bringing on director Richard Moore (The Wild Angels, Devil's Angels, Wild in the Streets) who claimed the original treatment `unfilmable', to which Howard hired screenwriter Stanley Mann (Damien: Omen II, Conan the Destroyer). Mann punched it up a bit, removed some of the more graphic material (both in terms of sex and violence, which, if kept in, would have resulted in an X rating for the film), tossed in a little humor, and eventually became this film titled Circle or Iron (1978), for better or worse. Starring in the film is David Carradine (Death Race 2000, Cannonball) and Jeff Cooper, whose previous gig had him playing Derek Thurston #1 on the TV soap `The Young and the Restless'. Also appearing is an interesting list of cinematic dignitaries including Christopher Lee (Dr. Terror's House of Horrors), Roddy McDowall (Planet of the Apes), and Eli Wallach (The Magnificent Seven).
As the movie opens we are watching some sort of martial arts tournament, and the focus is on a character named Cord (Cooper), who looks a little like beefed up Peter Frampton, shaggy mane and all. The purpose of this tournament is to choose a champion, one who would have to endure three trials on a path to find a wondrous book, possessed by one called Zetan, which contains all the wisdom in the world. Anyway, Cord, who isn't affiliated with any school or restricted to any particular fighting style, easily makes it into the final match, but is ultimately disqualified due to not following the rules...if you're familiar with Bruce Lee, you might begin to see the similarities between the character of Cord and Lee as far as where they both were coming from, figuratively speaking, and their difficulties in working within the `establishment', hindered by those who need to pigeonhole people and concepts for their own sake of understanding and acceptance. Undeterred, Cord decides to go after the book despite his not being declared champion, and has a number of adventures, encountering all kinds of interesting individuals and groups including a blind flute player who generally answers questions with more questions (he also uses his three foot flute as a weapon, causing it to make interesting sounds when he fights), a tribe of monkey men, their leader (played by Carradine) garbed in Joseph's Technicolor dream coat, a nomadic troupe/tribe, who specialize in bacchanalian delights, led by Chang-Sha, played by an an Arab-y looking Carradine, a man purposely boiling his privates in oil, a band of gypsy horseback riding desperadoes, and even death itself in the form of a puma man (also played by Carradine). Will Cord find the strength, wisdom, and perseverance needed to confront Zetan for the ultimate prize? What the heck is in the book that makes it so sought after? I'm guessing secret recipes or perhaps the answer to why, when a piece of toast is dropped on the floor, it is always the buttered side that lands face down...
I'm curious as to why the title of this film was changed from The Silent Flute to Circle of Iron...I think Carradine talks about it a little in his interview piece, as those who finally made the movie decided the original title was too confusing, so they opted for a more generic, less fitting, in my opinion, title for the film. Overall I thought this was an entertaining movie, one that stayed relatively true to Lee's original intent of focusing on the transcendental and philosophical aspects inherent within martial artistry, although I couldn't help get the sense it may have gotten watered down a little in the process, perhaps in a effort to make it more accessible to mass audiences. It's interesting that Carradine, who plays four, separate roles, was chosen to appear, since he also took on the lead in the 1972 television series Kung Fu, a vehicle created by Lee with the intent that Lee also star, but prevailing prejudices at the time chose to go with the Caucasian Carradine, making him appear Asian, rather than going with a real Asian in Lee himself. I thought Carradine, who was originally sought to play the part of Cord, but felt he had since 'graduated' from the role as the student, did very well, creating four, distinct characters, and nicely offset the awkwardness in Jeff Cooper's performance. Cooper has the physique, but lacked the required acting range, in my opinion, to properly portray his character , especially in terms of being an arrogant, naïve individual whose quest for a material object turns into a often dangerous journey of learning and self discovery. There are a number of interesting locations used, and the anamorphous fighting sequences were kept realistically within reason. I thought director Moore did very well keeping what was probably a difficult story to film on track and paced well. I did like the somewhat humorous revelation in terms of the book and the character of Zetan, played by Christopher Lee, even though the revelation itself was obvious, especially to anyone who's seen a number of chop socky films.
The picture quality on this Blue Underground DVD release looks sharp, clean, and generally excellent, and is presented in wide screen (1.76:1), enhanced for 16 X 9 televisions. The Dolby Digital 2.0 mono comes through well enough, and I had no complaints. There are a number of worthy extras including a newly recorded interview with David Carradine titled Playing the Silent Flute (13:55), an audio commentary track with director Richard Moore, a sort of dissertation titled Bruce Lee's The Silent Flute: A History by Davis Miller and Klae Moore, an alternative title sequence, a theatrical trailer, three 30 second TV spots, a poster & still gallery, and a DVD-ROM feature containing the first draft script by Bruce Lee, James Coburn, and Stirling Silliphant.
Cookieman108
By the way, did anyone understand the significance of the sequence with Eli Wallach as the man in the oil? Was it just a humorous interlude, or sort of representational allegory representative of some abstract concept?
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10 of 10 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
You Get To See David Carradine As A Monkeyman!, December 4, 2004
Just a few years ago when dvd just started getting big in the market, I, like many other people was excited. I was worried however that many obscure, older films would never get the dvd treatment. Coz at that time, only the big blockbuster snoozefests like Armageddon were coming out on dvd. Over the years I've been proven wrong however, and it's the fault of companies like Blue Underground. It's nice to know there are people in high places who like these kinds of films too. And because of them I get to see long lost favorites of mine like Shock Waves and Conquest get first class dvd treatments-even if the films aren't first class. Circle Of Iron is one of the newest of this bunch. I was surprised to see this come out. Even the vhs had been long out of print, but hey, if if Breakin' 2-Electric Bugaloo can be released, anything's possible. If Bruce Lee could see how his idea turned out, I'm not sure how impressed he would be(having yet another of his roles taken by David Carradine!), but I like this movie. "Cord" sets out on some quest to find this famous bigshot(Christopher Lee) who guards a sacred book that everyone wants to look at. The book is supposed to bring higher enlightenment or something, it's never clearly defined. Lee's character is assumed by Cord to be some kind of ultimate martial arts expert that Cord will have to fight in order to check out this book. As he sets out on this quest(he doesn't even earn the privilege to go on the quest, he kinda cheats his way into it) he must go through a set of "trials"-all of which include David Carradine in one way or another. Carradine's in Dr. Stangelove mode here, playing four different roles-a flute playing blind man(who Tarantino obviously modeled "Bill" after), a bizarre monkey/human fighter, a warrior playboy type and Death himself(a character that should have had more than one scene. He's actually kinda creepy). There's an awful lot of Zen philosophy that obviously reflects Bruce Lee's personal philosophies. These are considered merely "riddles" by our open-minded hero, Cord. I don't believe I've seen this Jeff Cooper guy in any other film. He spends the entire film with Robert Plant hair, topless, and just thoroughly arrogant. A great time capsule of a movie, it's just too bad Lee had to die before he could make his dream project the way he wanted. The extras consist of all the regular stuff like galleries and trailers, plus a 13+ minute interview with Carradine and an essay on Bruce Lee and his ideas for the film. Apparently Carradine enjoyed making this film more than any other. It shows. Thanks again to Blue Underground for realizing there are people out there who aren't interested in buying Armageddon on dvd.
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15 of 17 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars
Extras and All Around Amusing Movie Worth a Glance, October 19, 2004
This cult film starring David Carradine and Jeff Cooper is a fantasy/martial arts adventure trying to mix Eastern philosophy, particularly Zen Buddhism, into a film that enlightens and entertains. This is a strength in the film and a weakness. First, David Carradine does a fine job playing four different parts originally written for Bruce Lee (Lee co-wrote the story). As the flute player Carradine is great, delivering his lines well and being a believable character. The other parts he is not so believable, but all in all, enjoyable enough for the movie.
Jeff Cooper (Cord), however, is not a very good "seeker." Besides a couple one liners here and there, he just is not believable as the seeker. This in part due to average acting ability and his martial arts skills, or the lack there off, are extremely noticeable. This is not to say Carradine is a great martial artists, he is not, but he is able to pull it off - Cooper is not. Lastly, Cooper got the role when it was first casted for karate legend Joe Lewis(as least rumored so). Lewis would have been a much better fit and it would have naturally brought up the martial arts fight scenes to an acceptable and more enjoyable level.
The film quality is good, the sound track a little too much 70s TV sounding, but the sights are great, while the martial arts sequences are lacking technique and excitement. The movie, however, is a good guilty pleasure. It has enough fortune cookie philosophy to instruct, but not to be taken too seriously (after all, the movie's thesis, discovered at the end of the movie, logically fails). The movie has much of Bruce Lee's fighting philosophy (good) and Zen philosophy (muddled at best) and the movie is escapists enough to bring about a learning, yet, entertaining evening.
The three stars largely ride on the extras. The interviewed David Carradine is nice as well as the history in the development of the movie. Lastly, though the movie is advertised as "Circle of Iron" because that was its release title in the US, it was nice to see the producers of the film, open the movie with its original title, "The Silent Flute": the title Bruce Lee intended. The story was written by Bruce Lee, James Coburn, and Stirling Silliphant.
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