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155 of 155 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Audiophile and Book Lovers DREAM!!!, December 3, 2008
About this reviewer: I listen to Lossless music (Flac) and tons of books (200/year) a lot. I use this SanDisk 8GB Clip player about 20 hours a week.
PRO:
1. Sound quality. Not only does this support MP3, OGG, FLAC (the lossless format of choice) WMV, secure WMA, podscasts, & Audible files, it plays them with perfection. Now this is objective, not a "whatever ***I*** buy and review sounds better than what you have" crap. The sound quality is scientifically top notch. I don't know if the URL I put in this review will get killed, but go to the reviews section on cnet.com or Google the article entitled "Audiophile MP3 players, by the numbers."
Let me summarize the article: they found out that Sandisk *did* put an expensive sound processor in this one (apparently unlike the other Sandisks) and used actual scientific hardware measuring frequency response deviation, and signal to noise ratios, etc. the SanDisk Clip beat out everything that Creative, Apple (iPod), Insignia, Sony, Microsoft (Zune) makes.
reviews.cnet.com/8301-12519_7-9968448-49.html
I know it's an odd thing to talk about lossy (Mp3s) quality, but for the sound quality peeps, you will have zero complaints here.
2. Flash based: Meaning no HDD spinning around thousands of times a minute, movable parts=easily breakable or they wear down. Meaning you can also jog with it. I'm from the computer world, and us cats know that all HDD's fail, period. *Especially* if you're moving it all the time. We, who want something that lasts, universally stick to solid state; ie FLASH based mp3 players.
3. Connectivity: No stupid proprietary cable. Standard Mini-USB cable, I'm sure most people have at least a half dozen from various cameras, etc.
4. Physical Size: This thing is small, there are various pictures here, but this one is about the height of an AA Battery and about 3/4 as thick, one inch wide. This is great for jogging, it's weightless. Clip it anywhere without any huge bulge or weight. It weighs less than an ounce.
5. Compatibility. You DO NOT have to use some weird 3rd party DRM CRAP software like iTunes or Windows Media crap (like you do with Ipod's or IRivers) just drag, drop & GO! If you want some of your friends' songs, you don't have to load up itunes, then some hack, or your mp3 player's proprietary software cluttering up your friends computer to get his or her songs. I recall a conversation I had with a friend trying to get the songs of another mp3 player, "FREAK, it took me 40 minutes to find the right software that world work to get the songs off" -- and that's not some newbie. All the software to use this mp3 player is on every computer (with a USB port) and operating system on earth. Also, I didn't install any of the included software. No need.
6. Non music Storage: You plug it in you not only drop any of your mp3s/FLACs on it, you can throw some pictures, some huge files, documents, anything, and use it just like a thumb drive. And still listen to your music, it just skips the non-audio files, etc.
7. Mic. The mic is great for recording class, or conversations; just throw it on your desk or shirt pocket and there you go.
8. Fast listen mode - KILLER AWESOME if you listen to books, you can turn it to fast mode which speeds up the audio a bit. This means you can listen to books a good bit faster without it sounding like chipmunks. There is only one mode though, (also a slower mode too) but it's so cool if you want to listen to books faster. Your brain can easily understand, so why not save yourself 1/3 of the time -eh? Awesomeness.
9. Radio: And you can record the radio. Built-in FM tuner with 40 presets - Awesome.
10. USB 2.0, it transfers mp3s at a rate of 5.67MB/second per my own rough stopwatch method. Mathematically, this would take about 23 minutes to fill up the thing full.
Have you noticed all of creative labs MP3 players also claim to have USB 2.0 but really transfer at speeds at 1.1 speeds. The Creative flash based stuff transfers at less than 500K/sec, usually 120K-400K averaging at 230K. 230K!!! Do you realize this is slower than download speeds at broadband? 4.83 hours to fill up a 4GB Creative Labs mp3 player? forget that.
11. Memory Size, 8GB (They make a 1/2/4GB version too) this holds:
Books at 64Kbit/sec/mono equals about 266 (~11 days non stop) hours of books.
MP3's @ 128kbits/44.1/Stereo about 128 hours (5.33 days non stop) of music (maybe +/- 1,900 4 min songs).
Flac's (Lossless) ~21 hours (non-stop) ~315 songs or 20-25 Full CD Albums.
That's quite a lot of listening before you need to get to a computer again. 8GB is plenty for music on the go.
12. Screen, the screen is great, mono color, has some graphics, I don't need nor want some huge stupid color screen sucking down my battery. Which is cool because this MP3 Player does go blank after a minute of inactivity, which is PERFECT! Just what one wants. Touch a button again, it comes back up.
13. Yeah it has other features I don't use much, WMA playback, Audible playback support, graphic equalizer, nifty navigation scroll, blah, blah, blah.
14. Updating firmware is super easy, (and you may have to to get FLAC support) just load the Sandisk auto updater, it figures out which mp3 player you have plugged in, checks for firmware, any updates, then updates them and then restarts. Super easy.
Up in the Air: (Pro or Con depending on how you look at it)
-Comes in cool colors, silver & black, but it is a fingerprint magnet as most electronics with a shiny screen are now-a-days. Finally an mp3 that isn't in "I'm-a-lemming" stupid trendy "ipod white". Other colors are probably coming.
-Proprietary battery. It'll do 15-20 hours of books, take in mind books are less "demanding" on a a battery. But you really can't have anything this small and use any standard battery for any usable time. But it may be a con or a pro. I just don't like the fact I can never easily replace this one and we all know how integrated batteries after a few years start to slowly lose their charge. The Pro is that you can use any old mini-USB wall/car charger that if you have bought a few cell phones in the past few years, you'll have one kicking around your junk drawer somewhere.
Con:
-No Bookmark feature. I listen to books for 20 hours a week. This would be nice, as I could have used it a few times. This is just a software item, Sandisk - program it up!
I have no comment on the included earbuds. I'm 6'6" and figure that's why no earbuds bundled in mp3 players did anything but hurt my ears and/or seemed to fall out randomly due to poor fit and rotation of the earth. I have my own headphones as most people who are serious listeners do. Earphones are a matter of personal physiology and audio-snob preference. :)
I don't hate ipods, they are really sessy, but they are just not for me. I could list reasons why I can't like ipods but they are just too freaking expensive for too few bells and whistles. I mean, if you look at my "pro" list, the ipod shuffle is small and flash based, but that's it. I don't want to use some crap software, crap dock/cable, expensive battery, short battery life span, can't store anything else, why should I pay twice as much more for an ipod, when it doesn't even get close to HALF the features?
So, I will give it a 9.5/10. But in reality, nothing else touches it. Nothing has the sound quality, space, battery life, size, & FLAC support on the market for any price.
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59 of 59 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Hands down, one of the best mp3 devices out there for the money, December 8, 2008
Hands down the best mp3 device for the money out there.
With 8 gigs at roughly 80 bucks, how can you not get this? I agree with the other reviewer. This device is an audiophiles dream. For me, personally, this is also a dream for Audiobook lovers. For once, a device gets bookmarking perfect. Sansa really knocked it out of the park with this one. Plays Audible files perfectly, with bookmarking and chapters. Additionally, if you don't go through Audible or have your own Audiobooks, just drop the mp3's in the bookmark folder, and they are bookmarkable. I previously owned the e280, and it did not have bookmarking at all. With the help of Rockbox ([...]), I was able to get bookmarks and a ton of added features, but even then, I was not happy with the bookmarking implementation. I am happy now with Sansa's own Firmware. Additionally, in the past, people like me would opt to install Rockbox because the original firmware was junk, or lacked something like bookmarking. This is the best bookmarking implementation I have seen aside from Apple's Ipod (which is pretty good in my opinion for Audible and m4b files). For once, I do not have to tinker with a device, although Rockbox should be portable to this device soon from what I hear. I think the firmware that comes with it does everything you need for such a small device, and does it awesome. I would recommend this to anyone, and since they are so cheap, have already bought several. I own the 8gb, the 4gb, and the 1gb. This is also the perfect workout device. If you are on the edge about getting something like the Shuffle for working out, skip it and get this. It has more features, more space, and has the clip that you can clip on to your shirt or wherever you want. The Shuffle does have a good build quality, but it is way overpriced, and it terms of features -- this blows it out of the water. Like the shuffle, it is perfect for working out.
Pros:
For me -- Top One -- Very Workout Friendly, On The go, friendly.
For Me -- Top one -- Bookmarking feature.
I know I go on about this a lot, but for years and years and years, the device makers, aside from Apple's Ipod, never really put much attention into a good bookmarking feature. Even Sansa's e280 was complete garbage. For audiobook lovers, this was a critical feature, espescially if you have a large library from a site like Audible. Sansa got it right with this device.
(Note: The Old Rio Players had it from the start and did it well, but I think the company went bust and they are no longer being made ... I think.)
Supports Audible, Rhapsody, Overdrive, and I think a a couple of other services
Multiple file formats (mp3, flac, ogg, wav ... I think a couple others, but not sure?)
Built in Radio ... not that I use it a lot, but it is nice from time to time. One can also record songs from the radio and then copy them to the computer.
Built in recorder ... Don't use it often, but is great when my digital audio recorder runs low on battery or if I am in a bind.
Clip ... the clip allows you to clip it to a shirt or pants while working out or wherever
Sound Quality ... Awesome. Literally. I am not an audiophile, so I am not an expert, but this is a good sounding player
Screen ... yes, it has a screen, and when you compare it to its chief rival, the Apple Shuffle, this is a big plus
Space ... 8 gigs for such a tiny thing ... what are you waiting for?
Adapater ... mini USB ... no strange connector.
Charger ... usb or a usb outlet charger. I just use my GPS charger, works fine.
MTP or MSC support ... big plus -- you can you a program like Rhapsody or just drag and drop like a Flash drive. I hate Itunes, although I live with it for my Ipod 120 gb, because I haven't seen anything as good, aside from this, at bookmarking. This is great if your on the go, deal with a mac at work, a PC at home, and other computers at friends or girlfriends houses. Plug it in anywhere.
Support ... Sansa has thrown a lot of support and updates to this device, I'm guessing, due to its popularity. There are numerous software updates that fix problems with the device. You would think this would be a given for all devices, but for some makers it takes forever to update a critical problem.
Cons ...
Control ... pretty simple, but people with bigger fingers may find it a little more difficult
Build ... the build overall is good, and I have dropped mine a ton of times, and they are still kicking, but it does feel fragile. But what can you expect for so many features and such a lot price? I've handled the new Nano from Apple, and that is probably a lot more fragile than this.
No video, but really, is this a con? Who is a going to watch on such a small screen.
In sum, perfect workout device, or on the go device where you don't want bulk. Has all the features one could want for an on the go device and does them great.
Five stars.
Note: the USB cable that comes included isn't that great for some reason. Don't bother using it. Use a cable that you probably already have or get one for 5-10 bucks. In my experience, it seemed to have problems connecting sometimes, and then at other times, it wouldn't show up at all. Most likely you already have a spare one, but if not, most stores carry them now.
Note: I usually don't write reviews, but I felt compelled to provide a little bit more detail because this is such an awesome device and some of the questions I had when I first bought one were out there but not in as much detail as I would have hoped. So hopefully this is helpful. This review is coming from a person who primarily cares about audiobooks/podcasts/spoken word content. I care that my music sounds good, but it does not have to be perfect. This device sounds great to me.
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32 of 32 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Sansa Clip 8GB - The Smaller Ones Still Rock, But This One Is a Keeper!, December 24, 2008
Sansa's 8GB Clip MP3 Player came out about a month ago, right after I bought several extra 4GB Sansa Clips during Black Friday's holiday sales. I already have two I still have and use from the many I have bought, many of which have been given as gifts. I knew that the larger size was coming out, but wasn't sure if I would pull the trigger based upon the list price. After all, about $30 to $40 more gets you an 8 GB Zune or Sansa Fuze. (I already have a Zune, but that's another story). Yet even though I couldn't really find this on sale, I ended up pulling the trigger near the list price anyway. Why? Because this guy is the best compact MP3 player that includes a voice recorder out there, and I have found that no matter what capacity player I buy I will always end up needing more space. All of the other great features are still here, and with this added capacity even the higher price isn't enough to deter me from adding this to my MP3 player family.
This is still one of my favorite MP3 designs. As far as I could tell, little of the basic design has been changed relative to the smaller capacity units. There are more color and size options now in the smaller capacity, though this black one is the only option in 8 GB that I have seen. While the product picture makes this black version look the same as the 1 GB black players, it is actually shinier akin to the silver version.
This unit will come down in price, as all the models do eventually. It's still a great value at any capacity. For quick music play-lists this is one of the better optinos, and for the voice recording feature I think this is still THE best option at least of the ones I own. The other added features, like a screen, FM Tuner, and more, make this compact player much more feature-rich than the similarly sized iPod Shuffle. The iPod Shuffle is a little bit more durable though, or at least it was till they got rid of the metal body. Still, the point is the same: even with the cons it's hard to argue against how great this player is.
With sizes for MP3 players growing, buying the largest size you can is probably a good option. You can definitely get better value looking at the smaller capacity 1 GB, 2 GB and 4 GB units, but this guy gives you a little more capacity to grow into. After all, these super compact players are not expandable. So you can try to get the biggest you can find, or be like me and just buy extras whenever they go on sale. Then keep one for recording, one for your workouts, one for commuting ... you get the picture.
Being able to drag and drop your music is a big convenience, and another strong plus in this player's favor. Check out the pros and cons.
PROS:
+ Nice new capacity gives you room to grow
+ Very Good combination of features, design and value
+ Decent sound quality for a small MP3 player
+ Nice capacity for a decent price
+ Very light-weight
+ FM tuner with 40 presets!!!
+ Voice recording
+ Nice design and color options
+ Nice format compatibility (MP3, DRM WMA, WMA, Audible, etc)
+ USB 1.1 and 2.0 connectivity
+ Can be used as a USB drive / mass storage
+ Can sync music with drag & drop or via software
+ Great 15 - 20 hour battery life is better than Creative Zen Stone Plus or iPod Shuffle
CONS
- Newer shiny body does attract fingerprints and smudges more, so invest in a silicon cover
- Slightly larger body than the 2nd and 3rd generation iPod shuffles
- Some durability questions linger
- Like most of these mini-players, the capacity is not expandable
- More low cost options and competing feature rich players make it less of a slam dunk
- Still priced near the list price, so less of a value than the smaller capacity units
- Included buds will not be enough for most people (almost not worth mentioning, but just be aware of it)
The new Sandisk Sansa Clip may not be as durable as the iPod shuffle, but it still has the advantages of the iPod shuffle with some of the features and benefits of other MP3 player brands. Unlike the Sansa Fuze which has a screen for video, this guy is really meant for audio only. The trade-off is really in the smaller size and integrated clip. The Fuze, iPod Nano, and Zune are all pretty small too and include a video feature. So if you think you really need video, you will want to look to some of those units.
The Clip is a little bigger than the iPod shuffle, but not by much. It has a great feel and a nicer clip. It's perfect for a starter MP3, workout unit, or gift. And now with the added capacity, you can really use this for recording meetings and other such things more than the prior models.
The rechargable battery appears to have been improved a little. It always seemed better than the Creative Zen Stone Plus. The earbuds are passable for beginners but most people will replace them. Check out the skull-candy's for a cheap alternative
I definitely recommend the larger size, especially if you can get it on sale. For those needing more space, Sony, iPod and Zune units are available at 16 GB and up. All of those units have higher price tags.
You may even want to check out the SanDisk Sansa View 16 GB MP3 Player.
CONCLUSION
The trade-offs between size and features are getting more difficult. For those who use the recording and need a smaller size, this deserves consideration. Even for music only this is still compelling, but you may want to widen your search to include those other models as prices fall. This is a great starter unit for yourself or to give as a gift. Hopefully the new batches have improved durability. The same great features are all here that will keep this design around for a while.
Enjoy!
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