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In a book now marked by both critical acclaim and cross-cultural controversy, Jeffrey J. Kripal explores the life and teachings of Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, a nineteenth-century Bengali saint who played a major role in the creation of modern Hinduism. Through extended textual and symbolic analyses of Ramakrishna's censored "secret talk," Kripal demonstrates that the saint's famous ecstatic and visionary experiences were driven by mystico-erotic energies that he neither fully accepted nor understood. The result is a striking new vision of Ramakrishna as a conflicted, homoerotic Tantric mystic that is as complex as it is clear and as sympathetic to the historical Ramakrishna as it is critical of his traditional portraits.

In a substantial new preface to this second edition, Kripal answers his critics, addresses the controversy the book has generated in India, and traces the genealogy of his work in the history of psychoanalytic discourse on mysticism, Hinduism, and Ramakrishna himself. Kali's Child has already proven to be provocative, groundbreaking, and immensely enjoyable.

"Only a few books make such a major contribution to their field that from the moment of publication things are never quite the same again. Kali's Child is such a book."--John Stratton Hawley, History of Religions

Winner of the American Academy of Religion's History of Religions Prize for the Best First Book of 1995


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  • Paperback: 420 pages
  • Publisher: University Of Chicago Press; 1 edition (October 1, 1998)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0226453774
  • ISBN-13: 978-0226453774
  • Product Dimensions: 9 x 6 x 1 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 1.3 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 2.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (37 customer reviews)
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RAMAKRISHNA PARAMAHAMSA was a nineteenth-century Bengali mystic who experienced hundreds of ecstatic states and visions, experimented with different religious traditions, including something he called "the Jesus state," entertained the belief that he was the latest of the incarnations of God, and played a major role in the creation of modern Hinduism, both directly through his teachings and indirectly through the work and writing of his most famous disciple, Swami Vivekananda. Read the first page
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guhya kathá, reversed sexual intercourse, nava states, paramahamsa boy, latrine image, handmaid state, communal incarnation, householder tradition, dislocated hand, nava tradition, temple boss, incarnational status, renouncer tradition, tulsi tree, householder disciples, sádhana period, boy disciples, talk passage, bel tree, ritual partner, male aspirant, ritual intercourse, erotic state, descending energies, ecstatic acts
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Ramakrishna's Tantric, Tota Puri, Sri Ramakrishna, M's Kathámrta, Tantric Hero, Ram Chandra Datta, Datta's Jivanavrttánta, Hindu Tantra, Perhaps Ramakrishna, Primordial Power, Ramakrishna the Child, Doctor Sarkar, Naked One, Ramakrishna Order, Power of Consciousness, Ramakrishna's Vedantic, Swami Vivekananda, Dark One, Five Essences, Girish Ghosh, Jacques Lacan, Lord Jagannath, Mathur Babu, Place of Five Trees, Testing the Senses
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3.0 out of 5 stars Biased Thesis , Flawed Scholarship, May 27, 2002
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Jeffrey Kripal, starts with the intention of showing Ramakrsihna to be a homsexual. Several of his arguments are flawed because of his lacking of Bengali and because of his over eagerness to bring down the spirituality of Ramakrishna to suppressed sexuality.

1. The supposed difference between Tantra and Vedanta is fictitious and exists only in the western author's minds and not in practicing Hinduism. Millions of South Indian followers of the Vedantic Shankara use Tantric pujas and practice Sri Vidya Upasana a Tantric ritual. In the monasteries associated with the Advaiatic Sankara Tantric pujas are very common. The author should investigate the Smarta sect of Brahmins to discover this. They have often been clubbed with Saivas but this is not true.

2. The strong association between Tantra and sexuality is false. Western authors have a prurient interest in degrading indigenous religious practices to sexual orgies. Yes, Sex is seen as one of the ways to seek divine bliss, but only in one of the tantric sects the left hand path. Tantra in South India and Kashmir is Kaula and part of the righ hand path. Not that there is anything wrong with Sex but Tantra does not necessarily involve sexual connotations.

3. It is a tradition in Hinduism and some other mystical religions for the spiritual seeker whether male or female to approach God as the only maleand himself as female. Several saints including Maniccka Vachagar, Ramalinga Adigal, Arunagirinathar have sung hymns in Nayaki Bhava where they implore the lord to marry them. This does not mean all of these men are homo sexuals. The reason they use this Bhava is the medeival and (biological reality) , female as the receptive and relatively passive element in the Universe. The devotee remains passive and receptive to god.

The problem of such biased scholarship is the suspicion that it creates about genuine scholars and seekers from the west as to their intentions. Several European intellectuals made it a practice to denigrate India and what she represents during colonical rule to seek justification and reassurance of European imeprialism. The Ramakrsihna Math is a neo-Hindu institution and one of the earliest reinterpreters of Hinduism in the face of modernity and on which much of the pride of the modern Hindu rests. Striking at it root , though masked as scholarship and apparent concern for truth, is easily recognizable by any intelligent observer as something less inoccuous.

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25 of 31 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars Kripal Gathers Too Much From Too Little, January 22, 2000
While I am a Ramakrishna admirer, I admit I was intrigued by the book at first. Expecting long-supressed secrets about RK, what I got was a very few obscure statements and stories turned into an elaborate Freudian analysis of Tantra. This, along with a meandering hypothesis about what was in RK's subconscious. It's just too shaky, and Kripal is too eager to sniff out a conspiracy. For example, in the book's second edition, Kripal admits that Ram Chandra Datta's book--which he claimed was supressed by the RK establishment--was, to his surprise, published by the Ramakrishna Mission the same summer as the first edition of "Kali's Child"! In the end, Kripal does not convince, and RK remains a mystery.
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18 of 22 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars A huge piece of junk, April 13, 2002
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One need not waste his time collecting junks. May read something useful...Should one dare to translate a foreign-language book when he can't speak/write/understand a paragraph without the help of a dictionary? It seems, that's not a problem for Mr. Kripal at all! Without knowing Bengali, the author tries to prepare his "thesis" with the help of several books written in Bengali. Outcome is: massive intentional and stupid mis-translations leading to a utterly crazy (NOT scholarly) hypothesis.

My comment:
If Mr. Kripal's translation from his references are correct, then the other frightening possibility is (I happened to carefully read those original Bengali books.):
I must have absolutely forgotten my mother tongue (Bengali), which I hoped to use until I die!

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1.0 out of 5 stars Piece of disgusting junk
If this is considered scholarship, I would consider a caveman to be a more honest person intellectually than this author Jefferey Kripal. Read more
Published 4 months ago by A reader

1.0 out of 5 stars The author is either ignorant or insane
I read this book and it is not worth the time that one spents on reading it.I Have read a few biographies of other Indian saints written by Western journalists , and writers which... Read more
Published 14 months ago by Karthik Pandi

2.0 out of 5 stars Poor scholarship
As I have commented in response to another review this is a poor effort on a number of counts but most specifically in terms of the author's inability to distinguish between a... Read more
Published 17 months ago by ARC

5.0 out of 5 stars Different perspective on Ramakrishna
I knew in advance of the purchase what the book was about so I could not have been disappointed with the material.
Published 18 months ago by Ronald Frost

1.0 out of 5 stars Evidence for Ramakrishna's true mysticism
[...] which ask for evidence of Ramakrishna's true mysticism. I tell them that the evidence is the devotees themselves who follow His teachings. Read more
Published on March 10, 2006 by S. Srigiriraju

1.0 out of 5 stars Scholarship or fraud?
Just because Kali's Child won AAR award some people seem to believe it passed the test of academic vigor. Read more
Published on January 19, 2006 by Mallika Patlolla

1.0 out of 5 stars Wonder how many births the author will need
I really wonder how many births the author will need to wash off the sin of writing this book. Ramakrishna will surely forgive him as he was Lord himself. Read more
Published on January 7, 2005 by Aditya Namjoshi

5.0 out of 5 stars Different slant
I just reread Yoganada's "Autobiography" along with this work. M., who seems to be the most referenced biographer of Ramakrishna, had a boys school in Y's old house after his... Read more
Published on November 28, 2004 by MEJ

5.0 out of 5 stars A Controversial Project, but Well Worth the Effort
Jeffrey Kripal's "Kali's Child" is bound to elicit strong responses from those who know Ramakrishna through the accepted textual and institutional lenses. Read more
Published on September 1, 2004 by Tennyson J. Wellman

1.0 out of 5 stars Shallow and completely off base
One of the Shabbiest pieces of research I've seen in my life. It is full of so much misrepresentation and frankly dishonesty that one can conclude only one of the two outcomes,... Read more
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