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43 of 55 people found the following review helpful:
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Needs to be a part of every preaching class, September 20, 2005
This is a book that those who currently teach preaching and those who practice the art of preaching would do well not to miss.
Doug Pagitt, aside from being an excellent communicator, is also a top notch, challenging thinker. In Preaching Re-Imagined he lays out the problem (preaching as we know it is broken- the same people hear the same messages year after year and yet continue to struggle with the same problems) and some of the standard reasons why people imagine preaching is ineffective (the problem is the people, the method, the preacher, the content, etc).
Those aren't the problem, Pagitt says. Rather, the issue is "speaching", that is, defining preaching down to simply a monologue. And a steady diet of monologue is detrimental to the soul of the community- when all the communication runs in one direction, there are unintended consequences both to the speaker and the hearers. It may be fine in the short term, but long term this tends to stunt the growth of all involved.
Doug advocates something he calls progressional dialogue- becoming communities who listen to the preachers among us, not only the preacher standing in front of us.
This is a seriously great book that will challenge anyone who fills the role of "preacher" for his or her community to consider the impact their method may have on the hearers, and to consider from the ground-up the "hows", "whys" and "whats" of preaching.
Check this book out- even if you are at a size as a church where dialogue has become impossible on Sundays, there's much here to glean. This book serves as a wake up call for pastors to once again begin involving the people in the work of teaching one another.
A quote:
"As pastor I want to be part of a community where the workings of God are imbedded in all, where the roles of teaching and learning aren't mine alone, but instead are intrinsic to who we are as a people."
Amen.
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6 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars
A Light Disappointment, September 15, 2008
Pagitt has taken a stand against oratory in general. For a book on preaching, it is guaranteed to be lost in the history of the discipline, buried under better works.
Pagitt's contention is that oratory, to which he gives the inane and grammatically painful term, "speaching," exalts an individual to an undeserved position of authority which doesn't honor the community's role in discerning truth. Instead, he recommends the equally painful "dialogical progression" (as though any dialogues don't have an intended progress), which boils down to nothing more than talking with his audience. What Pagitt lacks, and what I'll go to pains to detail, is 1) any biblical foundation, 2) any accurate understandings of history, and 3) any proof that his own methods are fruitful.
Pagitt makes wild claims about dialoging with the audience to be a biblical norm, even stating that speeches in the Bible are a rarity. This is, in a word, nonsense. In nearly every book of the Bible someone makes a speech, and in every case, the Bible exalts their speaking with authority FOR the community, and not merely with the community. Pagitt offers no proof that his assertions about what the Bible says and does are accurate.
Secondly, Pagitt makes the completely unfounded and uncited claim that "speaching," or oratory in general, are a product of the Enlightenment. Anyone with a college education will find this intellectually insulting. From the ancient greco-roman orators, whose methods influenced the biblical writings, history and timelessly and repeatedly proven the effectiveness of oratory (that is, of a speaker in authority moving an audience to an intended purpose).
Thirdly, Solomon's Porch, his popularized church, has proven to have an actually minimal effect in its immediate community. While their event invitation list claims hundreds, actual attendance is small. His "radical" move to church without microphones doesn't forward the priesthood of all believers, it only forwards the cause of having a minimal number of priests in your church. Pagitt speaches widely at conferences in exactly the form he decries, despite the fact that he has no proven track record of his own effectiveness.
All that to say, this book is a waste of time. It is founded on nonsense and it will be lost in history. Perhaps the most telling indicator is that Pagitt dismisses the expository methods of Martin Lloyd-Jones, and tells readers who like him simply to return Pagitt's book to the store. It kind of gives you a sense of how much Pagitt is really interested in dialogue.
James W. Miller is the author of God Scent: A Devotional.
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4 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars
A Waste Of Time, July 7, 2008
To borrow the wording from a couple other reviews on here about this book, Pagitt's book is a bunch of post-modern, rambling fluff that throws the baby out with the bath water. While I can somewhat sympathize with some of his concerns about the nature of preaching, his answers to his concerns are all wrong. I whole-heartedly believe there is and should be a place for group interaction and discussion about the scriptures, but that place is better suited for a small group or sunday school setting, not as a replacement for good sound biblical preaching.
I am a senior at a bible college and once a week we have a freshmen chapel where a freshmen who has had no training in homiletics and very little hermeneutical training gets to preach, and let me tell you, it never comes out good. Allowing just anyone to preach to the church isn't the best idea.
Paggit's book is also very repetitive. He probably could have shortened it from 262 pages to about 150 or less. The whole book is just him rambling. I looked at the works cited page in the back and he has four sources cited throughout the whole book.....FOUR! The whole book is just him talking about the same couple of things over and over again with no support from outside sources.
If you're looking for a good book on preaching, DO NOT read this one. but if you're looking for a pretty awful book about preaching, by all means, pick up "Preaching Re-Imagined"
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