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Physicist and science fiction author Gregory Benford says there are two main impulses behind human efforts to communicate with future societies. The first, "High Church," shouts beauty, ego, and awe across the millennia: See how amazing our pyramid-building skills were? The Seven Wonders of the World would fall into this category--if they had lasted. Monuments, cathedrals, tombs, anything that says, "This great object meant something to us." On a much more mundane (and human) level is the "Kilroy" impulse: I lived! You needn't look hard to find evidence of this temporal communication: graffiti is as old as humanity, and latter-day taggers are following in the footsteps of Greek mercenaries (who left their names all over Egyptian monuments, Lord Byron (who carved his name into the Temple of Poseidon), and legions of anonymous ancient scribblers.

So, humans want and are able to communicate (wordlessly and otherwise) over thousands of years. But, asks Benford, can we accurately convey information over millions of years, or longer? We may need to do just that in order to responsibly protect future beings from our current, long-reaching messages--nuclear waste, climate change, extinction of species. Benford was part of a team of artists and scientists trying to come up with ways of saying "WARNING" to humans (or other beings) in the distant future. Deep Time is a fascinating look at the nature of communication and the future implications of things we do today. It's a terrifically intelligent, detailed, and comprehensive long view, with a message sorely needed by short-lived, but brainy, humans. --Therese Littleton



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In his first foray into book-length nonfiction, acclaimed science fiction writer and physics professor Benford (Timescape, Cosm etc.) combines a scientist's perspective and a novelist's imagination to produce a provocative and disturbing look into "deep time," the far future that may be beyond the limits of our civilization and our species, but not beyond the reach of our technology. He begins with tales of the messages we have purposefully left for the intelligent beings who may exist thousands or millions of years in the future. Benford draws these stories from his experiences as a member of the teams that designed the message placed aboard the 1998 Cassini mission to Saturn and that defined the characteristics of warning markers for the radioactive waste storage sites that will still be dangerous 10 millennia hence. He ends with a look at the messages that we are inadvertently sending into deep time, messages written not in media but on Earth itself and the life it supports. Here, Benford deliberately provokes controversy by arguing that humans must take on the task of geoengineering?controlling the evolution of both life and climate?if we wish to survive. That message and his mind-stretching book leave readers with a frightening question: Where will we find scientifically knowledgeable, technologically enlightened political leaders to guide us to the right choices? Illustrations throughout.
Copyright 1999 Reed Business Information, Inc.

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  • Hardcover: 240 pages
  • Publisher: Bard; 1st edition (January 1, 2001)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0380975378
  • ISBN-13: 978-0380975372
  • Product Dimensions: 9.1 x 5.6 x 1 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 14.4 ounces
  • Average Customer Review: 4.4 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (21 customer reviews)
  • Amazon.com Sales Rank: #798,695 in Books (See Bestsellers in Books)

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10 of 11 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Fun reading about humanity's most esoteric endeavors!, July 26, 2000
By G. Christopher (Fairbanks, AK USA) - See all my reviews
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This book is really two different books connected by a quick segue. The first half of the book sprints through a summary of the different ways that humans have intentionally left evidence of their lives long after their death. It continues to chronicle recent and ongoing efforts to leave evidence of our civilization to future humans and in outer space. I found the discussions of the petty infighting at NASA and the chaotic process of government-sponsored monument design particularly interesting. Benford is quick to note that for the money we spend on a radioactive waste marker that might save 100 lives over 10,000 years, we could save many thousands of lives right now. Comments like these help the reader keep a grounded perspective of the silliness of leaving long-lasting monuments, as well as highlighting the drive that makes us ignore our present concerns in favor of leaving messages for future generations.

The second half of the book is entirely about how future generations will interpret the environmental state of the planet as a monument to our current society and how we can take action to change the state of the planet. This section strays more heavily into the realm of speculative fiction than the first half of the book. Benford argues for "responsible stewardship" of the planet as the only option for sustaining our current level of population and energy. He calls for active efforts to influence the patterns of energy exchange over the planet's surface. While he is almost certainly right, his argument is a bit aggressive. He warns that we must start with extremely limited experiments, but does not stress the fact we do not yet have the mathematical modeling techniques to accurately assess and predict the worldwide effects of our experimentation. My only real criticism of the book is that it implies that we are capable of responsibly taking large scale action today, even though it may still be decades before ecosystems modelers will be able to provide the kinds of analysis that will allow humanity to become responsible stewards of the planet.

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5.0 out of 5 stars Powerful and thought-provoking, March 17, 1999
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This book really gets you thinking in a new way: going beyond your own petty life and petty concerns to think about the far past and the far future. So you think computer disks are so cool? Egyptian pyramids have a better record of surviving down the ages - already some of our data media are disintegrating and we don't have any working equpment to read them! When you call something the "way of the future," Benford points out, you need to think about exactly how far in the future you are looking.

Time capsules? We go to so much trouble to send trivial junk into the future...sometimes for only a few decades. A future archaeologist would probably learn more from mining our landfills, as we do from digging in ancient garbage heaps.

Benford also distinguishes between serious, scientific efforts to send a message to aliens (eg the plaques/records on the Pioneer space probes) and the "Kilroy was here" impulse ("Send your name on a CD-ROM to the stars!") being marketed so heavily. The latter, he notes, amounts to graffiti, worthless in the end except to someone's ego.

Finally, there are sections on saving the environment and biodiversity, to make sure we HAVE a future. Benford strikes a balance between the in situ/ex situ (conservation/zoos) approaches to saving species and the Puritan/technology prophet approaches to solving the greenhouse effect, a balance that is desperately needed when most so-called experts seem to be passionate ideologues one way or the other.

This book draws broadly on numerous disciplines and from a lot of research but leaves you really thinking in the end, and perhaps rethinking some of your assumptions about the future.

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5.0 out of 5 stars Deep Time/Deep Self-Revelation, June 10, 2003
By "chrysreseda" (Reseda, CA USA) - See all my reviews
I very much enjoyed reflecting on the ideas presented in Benford's discussion. The content and organization of the book are not specifically addressed in previous reviews on this site, so for the reader wondering what the book is about, a road map might be useful.
Deep Time has four sections:
(1) Ten Thousand Years of Solitude describes a project in which the author was involved, which addressed how (or if) society can design safe repositories for nuclear waste with effective means of communicating across millenia to people who will not share our culture, technology, or language, "don't go near this place." Past epic attempts to communicate over the millenia and present attempts to preserve computer data for even a few years do not build confidence that this critical message will speak properly to its unimaginably distant audience.
(2) Vaults in Vacuum is a rather darkly amusing discussion of the etched plates NASA sent out on some space missions intended to communicate with whoever finds them about Earth, Sol, and humans. The unintended humor of the political process surrounding their design communicates more to us about human nature than the disks themselves could ever communicate to aliens! The fate of the diamond disk that was supposed to ride with Cassini-Huygens to Saturn is nothing short of hysterical.
(3) The Library of Life is a depressing description of the potentially Chicxulub-scale loss of biodiversity caused by humans in the last few centuries. It argues almost poignantly, perhaps quixotically, for building cryogenically-preserved DNA libraries to store the basic information on biodiversity, so our far descendants, if we manage to leave any, might be able to resuscitate what we are destroying -- "Jurassic Park" on ice.
(4) Stewards of the Earth: The World as Message is a vaguely postmodern discussion of the earth we're leaving behind us for our descendants as a text and what that text reveals about us. The message is not flattering or hopeful. Should human society with its next-quarter or, at most, decades time frame begin to design and effect centuries-long agendas to assist the planet to support us at a high level of technological civilization, our primate cleverness may yet evolve into wisdom and conscious design of what the earth says about us to our long-distant descendants.
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4.0 out of 5 stars A thought-provoking idea, not completely carried through
This book, by a physicist and science fiction writer, starts off well with a philosophical perspective on Humankind's collective attention span. Read more
Published on July 21, 2003 by M. A Michaud

3.0 out of 5 stars I found it boring
The concept of public servants trying to communicate messages to a distant future it quite interesting. Read more
Published on August 18, 2002

5.0 out of 5 stars 2 years...
It's been around two years since I first read this book, and i must say i reference it to people all the time. the reason: it is so darn fascinating. Read more
Published on July 27, 2002 by B. Freeman

3.0 out of 5 stars Interesting Topic, but Benford Skims the Surface
The first third of the book is interesting and enlightening. Benford discusses his work as a consulting scientist on the U.S. Read more
Published on February 11, 2001

5.0 out of 5 stars Sagan's fans: This book is worth reading
Benford's non-fiction is as good as his best science-fiction. His interest and knowledge on archaeology and biology is amazing for a physicits. Read more
Published on September 11, 2000 by Emc2

5.0 out of 5 stars Thought-provoking, captivating, and easy-to-read
This book doesn't pretend to be the last word on planning for the distant future, but it is most certainly an intriguing, balanced, well-reasoned introduction to the subject. Read more
Published on July 10, 2000 by Larry West

5.0 out of 5 stars great work by a generalist
It is refreshing to see someone such as Gregory Benford with a solid grounding in a scientific discipline (astro physics) reach out as a generalist to other disciplines. Read more
Published on March 11, 2000 by Thomas Munnecke

1.0 out of 5 stars Boring
I tried to read this book, but i kept falling asleep. Now the idea behind this is a pretty neat one, but i could not get into it.
Published on March 8, 2000 by Jonthan Burgess

3.0 out of 5 stars A thoughtful exploration of an unusual subject
I liked this book a lot for the thoughts it provoked as much as what it contained. The notion that we send messages across deep time whether we intend to or not is fascinating. Read more
Published on August 14, 1999 by tomfranklin@concoursgroup.com

5.0 out of 5 stars Great book.
A very intriguing look at the complexities of communicating and preserving information over vast periods of time. Mr. Read more
Published on June 3, 1999

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