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Saint Leibowitz and the Wild Horse Woman (Hardcover)

~ Walter Miller (Author)
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This is the 30-years-in-coming sequel to Walter M. Miller's seminal work, A Canticle for Leibowitz. It chronicles the odyssey of Brother Blacktooth St. George, a fallen monk of the Leibowitz order who becomes secretary to the politically ambitious Cardinal Brownpony. Brownpony is involved in a complex scheme to break the rule of the Hannegan Empire, which dominates the 35th-century's post-apocalypse world. Even though Brownpony's plans will ultimately restore both the world and the declining Papacy to some form of order, he is not a religious man, although he is drawn to those who are. He sees something profoundly religious in Blacktooth, who on the surface seems to be a disgraced monk foundering in confusion because of his love for a woman, his semi-pagan visions of the Virgin Mary, and his nomadic heritage. Ultimately it seems that Brownpony's--and indeed humanity's--salvation may lie with Blacktooth, who will never quite realize how great is the gift he's been given.


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The long-awaited sequel to the classic A Canticle for Leibowitz (1959) was completed by Terry Bisson (Pirates of the Universe, LJ 3/15/96) from instructions left by Miller before his death in 1996. After World War III, America is divided into territories (Plains, Texark, Oregon, and others) struggling to reindustrialize. In this fragmented society, the papacy plays an important role in uniting the factions. In Texark, Nimmy Blacktooth regrets the vows he took to be a monk. While trying to get out of monastery life, he becomes embroiled in the search for a new pope. Unfortunately, despite its humor and social commentary, this book is a bit of a disappointment; the plot drags and seems pointless, and there is very little of the visionary sf that made the original so compelling. For larger sf collections and where the original book is popular.
Copyright 1997 Reed Business Information, Inc.

Product Details

  • Hardcover: 448 pages
  • Publisher: Spectra; 2nd printing edition (October 1, 1997)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0553107046
  • ISBN-13: 978-0553107043
  • Product Dimensions: 9 x 6.3 x 1.5 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 1.6 pounds
  • Average Customer Review: 2.6 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (47 customer reviews)
  • Amazon.com Sales Rank: #648,080 in Books (See Bestsellers in Books)

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34 of 40 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Not "everyone" needs their sci fi fed to them from a bottle., January 14, 2000
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I am giving this book five stars to try to somewhat offset the plethora of "1 star" reviews. As I don't plan to "stuff the ballot box", it is more a token gesture. Walter M. Miller Jr. was one of the most gifted writers ever to write science fiction. A Canticle for Leibowitz, yes, but also his short fiction shows a command of the language that few of his contemporaries could match. I won't even begin to talk about current day writers, as the majority of their output compares favorably with the old "Dick and Jane" learn-to-read books.

I read A Canticle for Leibowitz in 1971, believe it or not, it was assigned reading in an English class. When I chanced upon Saint Leibowitz and the Wild Horse Woman last year, I was thrilled to find it. What did I find? No, it's not up to A Canticle for Leibowitz in grace or content, but it is still an absorbing read. For those readers who can't take a little off-the-middle-of-the-road sexuality, and characterizations, relationships and plotting that makes them use the parts of their brains that TV and movies never awaken, I don't recommend it. For those who like to be enriched and challenged by what they read, try it. By all means, please read A Canticle for Leibowitz first, and then approach Saint Leibowitz and the Wild Horse Woman not so much as a sequel but as a new story set in the same world, a possible future world that should chill you to the bone.

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20 of 23 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars A church tapestry of politics and traditions, December 22, 2003
By Stephen A. Haines (Ottawa, Ontario Canada) - See all my reviews
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One author sets murders in a medieval Roman Catholic monastery and it becomes an object of popular acclaim. Another author sets Papal politics in a post-nuclear holocaust society and it's dubbed "Sci-fi", and tossed in the remainders bin. Neither book deserved the fate it received. Miller's second look at post-nuclear North American society reveals a church divided within and still struggling with Caesar after three millennia. Popes tend to church politics with one hand and civil society with another. Somewhere in the middle are the lesser religious tending their adherents or hiding from the conflicts.

One such "lesser religious" is a monk, Blacktooth St George. A resident at the monastery long dedicated to the memory of Isaac Leibowitz, nuclear scientist and martyr, Blacktooth harbours doubts about his calling. His roots are from the Plains people and their pagan heritage conflicts with the Roman Catholic Church's ideal of monotheism and self-sacrifice. Attempting to shed the burdensome vows, Blacktooth is conscripted to the service of a lawyer cardinal. Elia Brownpony, too, is a former Plainsman, but has risen quickly in the Church hierarchy due to diplomatic talents. Diplomacy usually involves conspiracy, and Brownpony must be adept at both for he is struggling to reunite the broken church. Theology isn't the basis of the schism, however. The expanding empire of Texark has challenged the Pope's power. Brownpony, wheeling and dealing, uses Blacktooth as a major instrument.

Politics are a lesser challenge to Blacktooth than the condition of his own spirit. Beset by visions and his glands alike, this mid-thirties adult is known as Nimmy, an appellation applied to young boys. He encounters a genetic mutant, a heritage of the holocaust, whose only flaws are an uncanny insight and a rampant libido. She seduces Nimmy, who doesn't quite break his vows, and supposedly produces two children. Her image haunts him as he goes about his role of personal assistant. He's also haunted by the multi-figured image of a pope of African descent. All these conflicting visions keep Blacktooth on edge and in peril. His reconciliation of all these disparate forces are the theme of Miller's "midquel" of Canticle for Leibowitz [this story commences at the middle of Canticle, not the end].

Swirling roles of church and state and the Church and the individual formed the basis of "Canticle". Expanded and enhanced in this book, they are nicely integrated with convulsions that shook the Roman Catholic Church after the 1960s. Bisson has done Miller's original draft proud in completing a compelling story of the pressures on faith. Through a complex plot, the characters are kept realistic, if somewhat bizarre. Religious institutions, particularly under stress, are never simple, and the complexities are well handled and you never lose the threads, no matter how tightly they seem tangled. [stephen a. haines - Ottawa, Canada]

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13 of 14 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars I was truly immersed, November 6, 2000
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I don't really understand the overwhelming negative reaction to this work. I can see how someone who has loved and reread Canticle many times may have had their hopes of a true sequel left unfulfilled. Personally, I was amazed at the maturing of Miller's style and content, and his credible and immersive attempt at world building. I thought the tone, although more modern, was sufficiently similar to Canticle that I felt the connection necessary for "sequel nostalgia". I felt connected to the main characters, though, their thoughts and actions were sometimes mysterious, foreign, and often displeasing. But these were the things that affected me most about the story. The characters' world IS mysterious, foreign, and displeasing, as well as dangerous and primitive. From the gut-wrenching descriptions of death and illnesses, to the touching, if strange, relationship between the fallen monk Blacktooth and "genny" AEdrea, I found this novel to be an emotional and mind opening rollercoaster.
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5.0 out of 5 stars It's disappointing that nobody ever asks who is going to ride your wild horses
The first time I was ever exposed to a mention of a possible sequel for "Canticle for Leibowitz" was in John Clute's fine "Illustrated Encyclopedia of Science-Fiction" . . . Read more
Published 2 months ago by Michael Battaglia

1.0 out of 5 stars Bad, and not even in an interesting way
A Canticle for Leibowitz has been one of my very favorite books since I first read it 20+ years ago--a chilling cautionary fable, and one of the few true classics of the science... Read more
Published 20 months ago by C. Ford

3.0 out of 5 stars Not Free SF Reader
A sequel of sorts to A Canticle for Leibowitz, but definitely not in the same class. This book is more concerned with the conflicst within the church of the time, and the... Read more
Published on September 2, 2007 by Blue Tyson

2.0 out of 5 stars Profound Disappointment
Perhaps I had been expecting a true sequeal to the original. I was so excited when I saw the book but instead of a taut, touching tale I got a rambling, frequently boring,... Read more
Published on February 17, 2007 by Avid Reader

3.0 out of 5 stars Secularism versus Parochialism
Saint Leibowitz and the Wild Horse Woman takes place during the second era described in A Canticle for Leibowitz. Read more
Published on September 9, 2006 by Jersey Kid

3.0 out of 5 stars Not Great But I Was Still Thrilled To Return To Miller's Future World
This book's predecessor, A Canticle For Leibowitz, is among my all-time favorite novels, and so I was naturally thrilled to find out that a sequel had been published. Read more
Published on June 14, 2006 by Penny Dreadful

3.0 out of 5 stars An Original Vision, but a flawed story
As a fan of Canticle for Leibowitz, I was curious about this sequel, written so many years later. I found the book to be less entertaining than Canticle and somewhat disappointing... Read more
Published on May 15, 2006 by Theresa Welsh

1.0 out of 5 stars A moral in search of a plot.
Generally, didactic novels are rather tired and trite, offering platitudes that only please a particular group, while alienating all others. Read more
Published on May 11, 2006 by Ivan A. Wolfe

2.0 out of 5 stars what the heck?
Well, I didn't throw this book in the trash because of what the pope called jesus{another reviewer did), frankly I don't care. Read more
Published on November 25, 2005 by J. Sutherland

1.0 out of 5 stars Poison!
Of course I eagerly awaited the arrival of this book when I first learned that there was indeed a sequel to the wonderful A Canticle for Leibowitz. Read more
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