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~ Allan Eckert (Author)
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The Ohio River, a principal route for pioneers pushing westward along its 981-mile course from Pennsylvania through Kentucky and Indiana to Illinois, was the scene of fierce battles among warring Indian tribes?Shawnee, Miami, Cherokee, Iroquois, etc.?and between Native Americans and white settlers. Tapping journals, letters, diaries and government memoranda from 1768 to 1799, and fleshing out his panoramic chronicle with reconstructed dialogue adapted from primary sources, historian-novelist Eckert has fashioned an epic narrative history of the struggle for dominance of the Ohio River Valley that makes compelling reading. The lives of notable pioneer families (Zanes, Bradys, Wetzels), incursions of traders, explorers, colonists, adventurers and the historic exploits of George Washington, Daniel Boone, George Rogers Clark and others intersect. A biographer of Shawnee chief Tecumseh (A Sorrow in Our Heart), Eckert emphasizes the sudden, overwhelming movement of whites into Native American lands and the Indians' initial restraint and tolerance, followed by furious raids, wars and expulsions. Maps.
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Eckert (A Sorrow in Our Heart, LJ 2/15/92) stands on an uncommon ground between academic and popular writers. His use of the "hidden dialog" as a means of writing history had been termed "documentary fiction." Here, he takes on the long and varied history of the Ohio River valley, engendered by indigenous Americans and settlers from European powers?French, Dutch, English, and Spanish. Eckert introduces a considerable number of Indians into the Ohio environment, utilizing a variety of fascinating primary resources to tell the history of the region and its people from 1768 to 1795. The final product, readable and rich in history, nevertheless will create problems for the historian and concern for the general reader. Those looking for a thorough history of the valley will be disappointed, and book selectors need to be aware of the type of history this book represents.?Boyd Childress, Auburn Univ. Lib., Ala.
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  • Paperback: 880 pages
  • Publisher: Bantam Books (September 1, 1996)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0553378651
  • ISBN-13: 978-0553378658
  • Product Dimensions: 9.1 x 6.1 x 1.9 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 2.6 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 4.6 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (45 customer reviews)
  • Amazon.com Sales Rank: #157,103 in Books (See Bestsellers in Books)

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21 of 21 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Unbelievable!, June 10, 2005
By Michael E. Fitzgerald (Kingwood, Texas USA) - See all my reviews
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I am an unabashed fan of Allen W. Eckert so if you seek an impartial review, best mosey on. This is one terrific book, possibly his very best.

Focusing on the first serious push west of the Appalachian Mountains and down the Ohio River by colonials after the Treaty of Fort Stanwix in 1764, the book details the continuing settlement efforts through the Revolutionary War and on to the early 1800's.

As in any migration in US history, this one was seriously contested in a most deadly manner. Literally, thousands upon thousands of people were scalped, butchered, skinned alive, impaled on stakes and tortured in the most unbelievably sadistic manner. There are no nice guys here. Both sides, the early American colonists and subsequent American citizens as protagonists and the Native Americans and their subsequent British allies, mounted military campaigns, patrols, ambuscades and battles that are quite shocking in their intensity and deadly intent. Even more stunning by today's standards, both sides paid for scalps. No sweetheart contest here, Eckert details a long, 30 + year bloody campaign, fought with ingenuity and hate. It is a continuous campaign fought over fur and land and Eckert puts you smack in the middle of it.

This fine book chronicles the major western migration route which settled and wrested control of the Trans Appalachian territory from Britain, France and Spain. It helped me understand, for the first time, just how serious the threat was of the possible separation of the Trans Appalachian west from the eastern seaboard comprising the original 13 States. By 1800 1 milliom people, 20% of our population, lived west of the Applachians. Easterners were totally unsympathetic to the plight of their fellow over-the-mountain citizens and were totally unconcerned with the butchery continually faced by the Westerners. When the East finally woke up to the seriousness of the situation and understood that the territorial gains secured by the Revolutionary War were at stake, the response was nothing less than the permanent establishment of the United States Army!

This is an awesome and successful literary undertaking which examines in detail the Nation's very first steps at what would, in later generations, become known as Manifest Destiny. You will not be disappointed.







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28 of 30 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars I agree...it's great, September 26, 2001
By Matthew S. Schweitzer "zohoe" (Columbus, OH United States) - See all my reviews
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By far the best and most engaging chronicle of the border wars of the Ohio River Valley, Dark and Bloody River takes us back to the time and place first encountered in Eckert's other great book, The Frontiersmen. This was the first Eckert novel I read and it hooked me from the start. It begins with a description of the ancient Indians to first settle the land that would later become known to some as Kentucky and the Ohio Valley, and to others as "That Dark and Bloody Ground". It ends with the closing of the eastern frontier in Ohio in the early 19th century and the twilight of the Indian way of life. What comes in between is a classic tale of historic adventure and horror. Eckert is known for his great historical novels and this is one of the best. Here we again encounter some familiar characters like Daniel Boone, Simon kenton, and Simon Girty. Eckert gives one of the most sympathetic interpretations of the white renegade Girty to date, portraying him here as a troubled frontiersman who was more a victim of years of character assasination than the satanic monster he was remembered as. Here we also meet Lewis Wetzel and Eckert makes clear that Wetzel, though hailed as a frontier hero in his time and for decades to come, was most surely a cold-hearted killer, intent upon exterminating the Indian race from the face of North America. This is really a great book and despite being some 600 pages, has often been reread.
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16 of 17 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars Not his most engaging writing, but excellent non-the-less, October 27, 2002
By Terry Crock (Massillon, Ohio USA) - See all my reviews
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This is an excellent history of the Ohio River Valley during the time period covered. However, this book is written more along the lines of a typical history book than his "Winning of America" series (The Frontiermens, Wilderness Empire, etc.) That isn't bad, it just means that it is less of the narrative style than one is used to in Eckert's books. Also, I found some of the events and happenings covered in this book to be more engaging in his other books. Eckert mentions in his introduction that he didn't want to just repeat things in this book that he had already covered in other books, but I think this is a "stand alone" book and he should have used all his best stuff for this book instead of worring about repeating what he wrote in his other books. In any case, this is an excellent book that keeps one interested; it just doesn't have as much of the "being part of the action" that is displayed in some of his other writings. With this book one is more of the outsider looking in on history instead of being involved in it; although it is still better written that most books concerning history. Also, there are a few instances of possible errors of history. For example, concerning Braddock's defeat at the Monongahela in 1755, Eckert states that Braddock was shot purposely by one of his own men. I can't think of any other historian who has no doubt on that matter. While it can not be proven that he wasn't shot by one of his own men, there is also not concrete evidence that he was. In fact, most evidence points to the opposite. Eckert, however, states it as fact. Every other historian seems to believe it not to be true, or at the most, doubtful. Eckert should have pointed this out. Also, dealing with the same battle, Eckert claims that the great Indian leader Pontiac was present. Now, there is no concrete proof that he wasn't, there also is not concrete proof that he was. So why state it as a fact? Or for another example, Eckert states that Blue Jacket, another great Indian leader was a white, captured as a boy and raised by the Indians. This is apparently not true either, as proven by DNA testing of the family's descendents involved. So why state that as a truth, when it really doesn't matter as far as Blue Jacket's activities in history are concerned? In any case, Eckert's possible errors are of the minor nature and do not distract one from the generally excellent writing and history telling; it just makes one wonder what else Eckert may be in error about. In the end, however, I don't think there is any other book concerning this area and time period that is better. Were is not for the possible historical errors, I would have given it a 4 or 5.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Grity
Regardless of the slaughters people kept moving west. They were not innocent in their fight to people the frontier west of the Alleghenies. Read more
Published 2 months ago by Ruth Thompson

5.0 out of 5 stars 10 STARS !!!!!!!!!
Allan Eckert IS MY FAVORITE AUTHOR..
I have read most of his books.
You feel like you are actually there at the time..
great book !!!!! Read more
Published 10 months ago by Robert J. Davidson

5.0 out of 5 stars dark and bloody river
This was the first Allen Eckert book I had ever read.I was so impressed with the historic detail, and the descriptios of the area, that I couldn't put it down.. Read more
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5.0 out of 5 stars That Dark and Bloody River
Excellent Book. More frontier history packed into this small area of the US then any other part of the country. Well written and a very exciting part of American history. Read more
Published 14 months ago by Shane D. Falleur

2.0 out of 5 stars Too much chronicle.
I thoroughly enjoyed the Frontiersman but this was too much data - I enjoy Eckert's descriptives and narratives - should have known as it is described as a chronicle of events.
Published 14 months ago by J. J. Tonzi

4.0 out of 5 stars TDaBR: a Zane's perspective
I bought this book about two years ago. The last book by Eckert I had read before this was "The HAB Theory", published in the 70's. Read more
Published 19 months ago by Kerry C. Zane

5.0 out of 5 stars The best of both worlds!
Eckert combines a great veracity for historical accuracy with a spellbinding ability to weave too-often dry history into a narrative form. Read more
Published 23 months ago by S. Gorman

5.0 out of 5 stars Historical Eye-Opener
I bought this book because I found out on the internet that it chronicled an ancestor of mine that I knew very little about. I was not disappointed. My ancestor, Capt. Read more
Published on July 28, 2007 by R. Bertram

5.0 out of 5 stars This may be Eckert's best...
I'm a huge Eckert fan, and this book might be his best. If you have even a casual interest in American History, this is a must read. Read more
Published on July 27, 2007 by Mark Fox

5.0 out of 5 stars Great historical fiction!
Although it is called historical fiction, this book is, in fact, a work whose incidents have clearly been painstakingly researched. Read more
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