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Gen. Sir Robert E. Lee leads the cavalry of the Royal North American Army during the Crimean War in S. M. Stirling's "The Charge of Lee's Brigade," while Cardinal Napoleon Buonaparte commands the armies of the Church in a European campaign in Bill Fawcett's "The Last Crusader." Sixteen tales of alternate military history by Elizabeth Moon, Brad Linaweaver, Esther Friesner, and other accomplished sf and fantasy authors provide a wide variety of historical speculation in a collection of "what-if" tales that deserves a wide readership. A good choice where "theme" anthologies are popular.
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Military history--with a new cast of characters! Authors include multiple-Nebula-Award-winning Esther Friesner, Hugo-winner Harry Turtledove, Elizabeth Moon, David Weber, S.M. Stirling, and many more.

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  • Mass Market Paperback: 320 pages
  • Publisher: Baen; 1st THUS edition (July 1, 1998)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0671878867
  • ISBN-13: 978-0671878863
  • Product Dimensions: 6.7 x 4.2 x 0.9 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 5.6 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 3.4 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (23 customer reviews)
  • Amazon.com Sales Rank: #792,379 in Books (See Bestsellers in Books)

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10 of 10 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars A definite case of false advertising, October 1, 1999
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I bought this book because the blurbs on the back cover sounded interesting. Something like Rommel fighting against the Romans, etc. "What if" scenarios that sounded intriguing.

Needless to say, I was a little stunned when not a single one of these scenarios actually appeared in the book. The stories that were presented were average at best. Many of them weren't even military in focus. There's nothing wrong with short stories that don't have a military theme -- I've read and enjoyed many such stories myself. But that wasn't how this collection was presented. I initially gave this book two stars but got so aggravated when I began recalling the feeling that I'd been duped that I dropped a star.

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2.0 out of 5 stars 4 or 5 out of 16 ain't good..., July 9, 2001
By A. Ross (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews
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This collection of 16 short stories was profoundly disappointing, if only because I expect better from something with Turtledove's name on it. There is a certain expectation when reading alternate history that either the the events and/or people being tinkered with are so familiar that they need no introduction, or that a small introduction will be given to set up the story (not to mention maps). Unfortunately that was not the case here, as a number of the stories used rather obscure incidents and people as their basis, and there was no corresponding supplementary material. It also doesn't help expectations when the jacket copy is about scenarios that aren't in the book. Add some rather tepid writing in a number of cases, and the book got rather tedious.

If you're going to borrow it, there are a few stories worth checking out. Lillian Carl's "The Test of Gold," focusing on the Romans vs. Boadica, was one of the better stories, albeit somewhat roughly told via the memoirs of an old Roman. S.M. Stirling's, "The Charge of Lee's Light Brigade," has a somewhat interesting premise at least: that Gen. Lee of Civil War fame, instead fights with C.S.A. along with other British forces at Balaclava in a very different Charge of the Light Brigade. Somewhat slyly, Stirling seems to have inserted George MacDonald Fraser's legendary scoundrel and rouge "Flashman" in the story as an homage to the great Scottish writer, which works rather well as Flashman does campaign there in "Flashman at the Charge." Another of the best stories is William Sanders' "Billy Mitchell's Overt Act," in which a military aviation pioneer manages to thwart the attack on Pearl Harbor. Told as a series of excerpts from books, interviews, and testimony, he manages to weave a very engaging tale. The final story, R.M. Meluch's "Vati" is probably the best of the bunch, showing what might have happened had a more imaginative and forceful man taken over German air operations and sped up production of jet aircraft, thus preventing D-Day. It's something the Germans did manage to do at the end of the war, but by then was too little, too late.

As for the rest: "Tradition," by Elizabeth Moon (who's "Deed of Paksenarrion" trilogy I love), suffers from an unknown main character, British WWI Rear Admiral Cradock, a slightly obscure setting, the Mediterranean (more interestingly treated in the historical fiction of John Biggins), and the need to have detailed maps at hand to follow the action. Brad Linaweaver's rather silly "And to the Republic For Which It Stands" imagines an alternate Caesar. Lois Tilton's "The Craft of War" is annoyingly written as a dialogue between Socrates and a student about Sun Tzu's "The Art of War." Jody Nye's "Queen of the Amazons" is a terrible Crusader piece fortunately followed by a competent as usual WWII piece by editor Turtledove. Unfortunately, one then segues into an utter piece of dreck, Esther Friesner's "An Old Man's Summer" featuring the rambling reminisces of a dying Eisenhower. Bill Fawcett's "The Last Crusader" establishes the fun premise of Napoleon as a Cardinal, but doesn't take it anywhere. Even though it didn't particularly engage me, Janet Berliner's "A Case For Justice" is worth mentioning for taking as it's subject, the South African leader Jan Smuts. William Forstchen's "A Hard Day For Mother" folds a cliché "brother vs. brother" Civil War tale into the battle for Round Top Hill at Gettysburg. David Weber's "The Captain From Kirkbeam" is the first of two seafaring stories, his being about a commander trying to blockade French ships from sailing into the Chesapeake Bay during the War for Independence. "Vive L'Amiral," by John Mina imagines Nelson as fighting on the French side, rather than the British, with rather different results, of course. Brian Thomsen's "Bloodstained Ground," is a rather cheezy and weak attempt to show a drunken Samuel Clemens uncovering the hidden truth about "President" Custer and what really happened at Little Big Horn.

So, maybe four or five stories worth reading all told, mixed in with a few more interesting premises, and a lot of bad and just plain boring ones. You're better off checking out Robert Cowley's "What If?: The World's Foremost Military Historians Imagine What Might Have Been."

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5 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars An inconsistant compilation of Alternative History, October 10, 2001
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I've always been a fan of Specualtive history. That's why this book popped off the shelf into my hands. If one can get past the doubious cover art and blurb on the back (Rommel with the Persians... Patton at bull run? Nope, they're not in THIS book), it's not too terrible.

A few of the stories are downright rotton. Some of those same stories are so obscure it makes them uninteresting. Others are so-so, and a number of others are top notch. It's a shame that the selection wasn't more carefully managed.

The best of the bunch in my opinion, which make the book worth reading just for those stories are:

-The Charge of Lee's Brigade,
-Billy Mitchel's Overt act - (The best in the book, and totally worth a read)
-A Case for Justice
-Vive L'Amiral
-Bloodstained Ground

Billy Mitchel's Overt Act, by William Sanders is the best of the bunch. It's a shame that most of the rest didn't match up to its quality.

Bottom line, some of the stories aren't bad, but most are mediocre.

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4.0 out of 5 stars great alternate history
I've read a lot of books by Harry Turtledove. I enjoyed all his alternate history books. They are a must read for any history fan.
Published on November 11, 2007 by Joseph F. Greenwich

3.0 out of 5 stars Alternate Obscurities
I am afraid that this review must merely echo most of the others who have eloquently raised the major problems with this work. Read more
Published on July 9, 2006 by David Hood

3.0 out of 5 stars A book for the serious mil-his buff.
Most of the short stories contained within this book are very specific, and you'll only appreciate them if you've studied the particular battle being looked at. Read more
Published on May 4, 2006 by T. J. McIntee

2.0 out of 5 stars Big-time hit and miss book
I really expected better from this. Unfortunately, very little of this is actually worth reading, and it inspired me to do my own alternative general stories after seeing how... Read more
Published on May 2, 2004 by TrezKu13

5.0 out of 5 stars Not for dropouts!
It seems that most of the reviewers did not read thier H.S. school history text books. Know a little about history before you read alternate history books. Read more
Published on July 29, 2002

3.0 out of 5 stars A real"dog's dinner" of alternate history!
Although I felt somewhat misled (as usual) by the cover of the book showing Romans in Panzers,I was not too displeased with the content. Read more
Published on March 9, 2001 by Rodger Raubach

4.0 out of 5 stars Alternate Reality
This is a great example of the genre of alternate history, and the persons and situations depicted in this book show why this is such a popular area of science fiction. Read more
Published on February 10, 2001 by Jon Eveland

4.0 out of 5 stars "Awesome Alternate History"
Harry Turtledove did a great job putting together a bunch of solid, alternate history stories. There were a few I wasn't all that thrilled by, but the rest I really enjoyed. Read more
Published on October 21, 2000 by John J. Rust

4.0 out of 5 stars A great book, despite Elizabeth Moon
Firstly, I was incredibly pleased that the contents did not match the description on the back. Almost all of the stories were very well written (especially Weber's) and lingered... Read more
Published on March 31, 2000 by smeg56

4.0 out of 5 stars Great Stories
This book is great for people with a love of history. I enjoyed almost all the stories, especially one with Lord Admiral Nelson commanding the French! Read more
Published on February 1, 2000 by erikdean

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