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by Bill James (Author) "Grand Victorian mansions were slipping into disrepair..." (more)
Key Phrases: expected winning percentage, simulated seasons, comparable players, Hall of Fame, Veterans Committee, New York (more...)
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James examines the history, politics and voting decisions surrounding the controversial elections to baseball's Hall of Fame.
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Dan Gutman Newsday Let's just let Bill James decide who belongs in the Hall of Fame. He's proven that he knows more about baseball than anybody in the whole world.... -- Review

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  • Paperback: 464 pages
  • Publisher: Free Press (April 6, 1995)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0684800888
  • ISBN-13: 978-0684800882
  • Product Dimensions: 9 x 6 x 1.2 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 1.1 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 4.4 out of 5 stars See all reviews (32 customer reviews)
  • Amazon.com Sales Rank: #123,855 in Books (See Bestsellers in Books)

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5.0 out of 5 stars Hot Stove League Commissioner?, May 2, 2002
By William Hare (Seattle, Washington) - See all my reviews
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After reading "Politics of Glory" I would like to nominate Bill James for Hot Stove League Commissioner. The Hot Stove League is where baseball hungry fans spend their winter days arguing that "My favorite player is better than yours!" James approaches baseball arguments the way a Philadelphia lawyer evaluates lucrative contracts, by examining every point with microscopic clarity.

A book about the Hall of Fame, with its unending controversies over just who is truly deserving of entry and who is not, is ideal grist for the analytical mind of James. He covers many controversies, two of which surround Dodger pitcher Don Drysdale and Yankee shortstop Phil Rizzuto. Drysdale had been voted into the Hall by the time James wrote his book while Rizzuto was elected just as James was completing his final chapter. The evaluations of both players were so thorough that James concluded his analysis of Drysdale by covering the tall right-hander's performance in pennant stretch drives of the Dodgers as well as in the twelve games James deemed the most crucial of his career excluding World Series performances. Rizzuto's Hall of Fame worthiness was ultimately evaluated by a statistically microscopic comparison of the Yankee star with his counterpart New York contemporary at shortstop, Pee Wee Reese of the Brooklyn Dodgers.

In addition to comparing and contrasting players both in and out of the Hall, James also delves into the politics of Cooperstown. He decries the period of the fifties and sixties for what he deems less than deserving choices made by the Veterans Committee. James pinpoints the reason as the leadership influence of Frankie Frisch, the great infielder of the Cardinals and Giants, whose love affair with the game of his playing days continued even when he was managing teams years later. James notes that the "Fordham Flash" was less than a hit with his players for constantly proclaiming that "The players of my days were much better than the players now." Frisch's period on the Veterans Committee resulted in numerous former teammates being selected, including choices James statistically debunks as inadequate, including three former St. Louis Cardinals, pitcher Jess Haines, first baseman Jim Bottomly, and outfielder Chick Hafey.

Reading James improves a baseball fan's instincts for looking beyond the sheer numbers, such as park advantages, i.e.: Did a pitcher perform in a home park favorable to pitchers or hitters or did a hitter play half his games in a stadium with short or long fences? James comes up with some convincing arguments by searching in places where most fans have never treaded.

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5.0 out of 5 stars What Sabermetrics is all about, November 29, 1999
By Michael Wendt (Vernon Hills, IL USA) - See all my reviews
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Back in the 70s, when Tony Kubek was considered a baseball savant, Bill James began popularizing a rigorous statistical analysis of baseball. In the 80s, when the pedantry of the Elias Baseball Analyst team threatened to remove the ideas from the study of the game, James kept chugging along with his yearlies, and the Historical Abstract (another must read). Later he produced this, probably his best work. For anyone who shakes his head at a player or manager dismissing another's opinion by saying "He never played the game;" for anyone who is not cowed by the received truth of an inside "authority" or eyewitness, for anyone who loves baseball and thinks we can do better by using the tools at our disposal, Bill James is a godsend. If you're a big baseball fan and you don't know who he is, get this for yourself. It will open up your appreciation of the game, its history, and the numbers and debates that keep its history alive.
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5.0 out of 5 stars One of the best, December 7, 2000
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Quite simply one of the best baseball books ever. Written with the serious fan in mind this book puts to rest many of the debates about who should and shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. It is hard to argue to James' logic in every one of the cases he sites.

The idea that James has some sort of hidden agenda, as one reviewer states, is absurd. What could James possibly have against Freddie Lindstrom or Travis Jackson? Besides regular statistics, James does use first hand accounts in helping to determine whether or not someone should be in the Hall of Fame. However, he does not put much credence in something an old teammate says 40 years later. The fact is that James points out obvious discrepancies between the number of HOFers from the 20s and 30s and other decades, and in particular in the number of teammates of Veterans Committee members in the Hall of Fame.

This is just one of the many issues detailed here. All in all this book is a must read for anyone interested in the Hall of Fame.

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1.0 out of 5 stars Excellent Book - But It's Old
Great book. Only problem is I already own it and have read it.

More than ten years ago, in the middle of my initial Bill James kick, I bought 'The Politics Of Glory. Read more
Published 1 month ago by Duke C. Cullinan

1.0 out of 5 stars This book had a chance and James choked in the clutch!
The Baseball Hall of Fame is full of paradoxes and Bill James turns into a literary paradoxical decomposition throughout this effort. Read more
Published 19 months ago by Joyce H. Cooper

5.0 out of 5 stars Maybe The Book That Did It For Me
This book may have been the one that finally sold me on Bill James - he asks alot of logical questions about who should and shouldn't be in the Hall Of Fame and I buy most of... Read more
Published on June 27, 2007 by Jeffrey C. Bullock

4.0 out of 5 stars Excellent!
Good info inside, the Hall of fame looks likme a social club of some veterans players
Published on November 3, 2006 by Mario H. Rodriguez

5.0 out of 5 stars Fame That Has Too Much Shame
I have been sceptical about the Baseball Hall of Fame ever since the enlightened power structure selected Satchel Paige as the first Negro League Baseball inductee, but wanted to... Read more
Published on October 4, 2006 by Mr. Richard D. Coreno

4.0 out of 5 stars Outstanding research and thought-provoking prose
Baseball's "uber-statistician" Bill James has put together a painstakenly detailed look at Baseball's Hall of Fame process for determining membership. Read more
Published on June 20, 2006 by coachtim

3.0 out of 5 stars Would be a better book if he weren't trying a hatchet job on Rizzuto!
Actually, I liked a lot about this book. But early on, he claims that he doesn't mean the book to be a putdown of Phil Rizzuto, and he then proceeds to put Rizzuto down in chapter... Read more
Published on January 19, 2006 by Bruce R. Gilson

5.0 out of 5 stars Outstanding, refreshingly logical
Noted baseball analyst Bill James, author of the famous annual Baseball Abstracts of the 1980s and other baseball books, turns his considerable talents to Cooperstown. Read more
Published on February 2, 2005 by Edward W. Trieste

5.0 out of 5 stars Once Again, a Brilliant Curveball of Perspective
You know, I always wondered why Babe Ruth was elected to the Hall with only 95% of the vote. How does he get in with anything less than 100? Read more
Published on January 9, 2005 by Jorge Fernandez

5.0 out of 5 stars An Elightening Look at the Hall of Fame
For anyone who has ever been interested in baseball's Hall of Fame, from being a serious historian of the game to simply being a fan who wanted your favorite player to be honored,... Read more
Published on February 1, 2004 by Paul White

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