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Key Phrases: fullblood settlements, caput payments, caput distribution, United States, Indian Territory, Department of the Interior (more...)
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This book was first published in 1940, not a particularly receptive year for books about the betrayal of the American Indian. [It] is now extremely timely and should be picked up by that increasing number of concerned citizens who want to know the true history. -- Review


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This book was first published in 1940, not a particularly receptive year for books about the betrayal of the American Indian. [It] is now extremely timely and should be picked up by that increasing number of concerned citizens who want to know the true history.
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Product Details

  • Paperback: 472 pages
  • Publisher: Princeton University Press (May 1, 1973)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0691005788
  • ISBN-13: 978-0691005782
  • Product Dimensions: 8.2 x 6 x 1.2 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 1 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 4.5 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (4 customer reviews)
  • Amazon.com Sales Rank: #259,193 in Books (See Bestsellers in Books)

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EVERY American of Middle age can remember when his school geography showed to the south of Kansas a large unmarred expanse of map designated as the Indian Territory. Read the first page
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fullblood settlements, caput payments, caput distribution, minor allottees, probate conditions, intermarried citizenship, conservative fullbloods, tribal warrants, cent contingent fee, unrestricted minors, citizenship claimants, agricultural leasing, probate rules, individual allottee, illegal conveyances, probate attorneys, tribal revenues, accumulated royalties, tribal régime, tribal funds, original allottee, district agents, tribal estates, occupancy title, land dealers
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United States, Indian Territory, Department of the Interior, Dawes Commission, Muskogee Phoenix, Congressional Record, Select Committee, Muskogee Times-Democrat, Supreme Court, Miss Barnard, Survey of Indians, Commissioner of Indian Affairs, Acts of the Choctaw Nation, Curtis Act, Creek Nation, Secretary of the Interior, Senate Docs, Lake Mohonk Conference, Daily Oklahoman, Seminole County, Board of Indian Commissioners, Pleasant Porter, Supplemental Agreement, Oklahoma City, House Reports
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4.0 out of 5 stars Broken Promises, April 17, 2002
I have read this book twice--one around 1990 and again a year or so ago. It's not an easy read as the text is a bit dry and pedantic. (I think her later books are easier to read.)

Debo's conclusions, based on extensive research, are at times sweeping and fleeting--at least in the sense of trying to assess how widespread or damaging a practice was.

That said, Debo's book is without peer in chronicling the theft of Indian land, coal, oil, and timber by mostly white citizens. Most despicable was the taking from the children and the very elderly--the first lacking majority and the second, literacy.

Debo frequently hits on federal vs. state rights and responsibilities. The feds were unhappy with the seemingly small amount of protection being afforded the Indians. The leaders of Oklahoma, a new state, said the state could take care of the so-called "Indian problem." And the state did. But the solution promised bore little resemblance to the solution delivered.

In part due to her documentation of these leaders and what they did, the University of Oklahoma Press refused to print the book, a job that, as best as I can recall, migrated east to Princeton University.

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5.0 out of 5 stars It paints a clear picture of the Native American betrayals, October 1, 1999
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Angie really tells it like it was. She uncovered all of the horrable truths from the basement of the Interior. This book tells all about what they wouldn't teach in school, and the government cover-ups. I recommend this book to everyone who is interested in the truth.
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5.0 out of 5 stars and still the waters run, November 21, 2007
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I was glad to get the product I ordered but I did not order the second shipment of the same. Hwever you charged me fullprice to return the 2nd book. I did not think that fair, since it was your mistake for sending 2.
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