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~ (Author) "The age-old debate over baseball's ancestry has always been long on bluster and short on facts..." (more)
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"Given North American baseball fans'' nearly inexhaustible appetite for the arcana of their favourite sport, astonishingly few scholars have ever undertaken the detailed historical and anthropological research to find out where the game actually began. . . . Now, through painstaking bibliographic and archival research, on display in his extensive appendices, Block has established . . . the true forerunner of American baseball. . . . By pushing beyond baseball''s reputed origins in an English children''s game, David Block has discovered the game''s true origins in an even older English game."-Warren Goldstein, Times Literary Supplement (Warren Goldstein Times Literary Supplement )

"The suggestion that America''s Game might have originated somewhere besides America so ''inflamed passions and patriotism,'' writes David Block, that the idea still burns us. . . . Block has produced a deliciously researched feast that lays this controversy to rest. . . . Block has assembled such a rich pile of evidence for the game''s European origins that one might wonder why there ever was a controversy. . . . Once an American reader gets past the disappointment of discovering baseball''s deep European roots, Block''s book is a perfect delight. He has unearthed magnificent medieval manuscripts . . . That show that baseball is just the latest in a very long line of stick-and-ball games."-Charles Hirshberg, Sports Illustrated (Charles Hirshberg Sports Illustrated )

"As if this country doesn''t have enough to worry about, it turns out America''s national pastime may not even be American. At least according to Baseball before We Knew It, a new book by David Block. Block contends the origins of the game date to the mid-14th century and can be traced to northern Europe and parts of Africa. Hold on there, pal. What about good old Abner Doubleday? ''There''s no evidence he even played baseball,'' Block says. ''It''s simply a case of people passing down stories that have never been substantiated.'' Now, there''s something we seem to be very good at." -Morty Ain, ESPN: The Magazine (Morty Ain ESPN: The Magazine )

"Baseball, Block convincingly argues, was not a product of rounders, and its essential form had already been established by the late 18th century. Where, then, did baseball come from? In search of an answer, Block, a retired systems analyst and an antiquarian book collector, has attacked baseball''s literary record with methodical zeal. The result is a joyfully discursive romp through the history of ball sports and a compelling new theory of the game''s origins."-New York Times Book Review (New York Times Book Review )

"Baseball before We Knew It is a rare piece of historical research that transforms the historical landscape. It is also elegantly written and lightened with a subtle humor. No one who makes any claim to being a baseball historian or a student of the game can go forward without Block''s stunning work."-Sports Literature Association (Sports Literature Association )

"Block''s book obviates the need for any other analysis of baseball''s origins and roots. Including the illustrations that go back to the 14th-century manuscripts in the Bodleian Library emphasizing pre-Civil War sources, this one volume contains everythingregarding the history of the origin of the American national pastime. Myths are debunked, fables are demystified, and in the end one is left with a comprehensive and convincing historical record."-Choice (Choice )

"This is without question the book for anyone at all interested in the history of the world''s greatest game or, for that matter, in the manufacture of history."-Boston Globe (Boston Globe )

"To quote from no less an expert than John Thorn, Block has created a knowledge base for the origins of baseball on which all future research will rely. That's a big claim, but if you read Baseball Before We Knew It, you'll know it's correct."- John Shiffert, www.baseball19to21.com (John Shiffert www.baseball19to21.com )

"Baseball before We Knew It is an important book, erudite, entertaining and truly groundbreaking. David Block goes beyond debunking the game's creation myths to creating a knowledge base upon which all future research will rely. This brilliant book takes a place on my shelf alongside Seymour, Voigt, and Henderson."-John Thorn, editor of Total Baseball (John Thorn )

"A well-researched, fascinating book that examines the history of our national pastime from its earliest origins through its evolution into the modern game."-Tom Tarapacki, Polish American Journal (Tom Tarapacki Polish American Journal )

"An amusing and comprehensive look at the surprisingly long and complex lineage of our national pastime. The book is dizzyingly detailed in spots, with exhaustive descriptions of dozens of old English ballgames, but as the author plumbs the murky depths of the game's origins, he turns up bizarre footnotes and conspiracies and unravels the agendas of earlier baseball historians."-American Heritage (American Heritage )

"Not content with merely demolishing the credibility of Abner Doubleday and Cooperstown once again, Block discerns baseball's true origins in a British children's game of the early 18th century. Masterfully researched and extraordinarily well-documented, this book includes and invaluable 60-page, chronological bibliography of baseball mentions from 1450 to 1861."-College & Research Libraries News (College & Research Libraries News )

"A well researched, expertly written, inherently interesting, reader engaging, in-depth study of baseball and its historical roots. . . . No personal, academic or community library Sports History collection can be considered complete or comprehensive without the inclusion of David Block''s Baseball Before We Knew It!"-Midwest Book Review (Midwest Book Review )


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Block's book takes readers on an exhilarating journey through the centuries in search of clues to the evolution of our modern National Pastime. Among his startling discoveries is a set of long-forgotten baseball rules from the 1700s. Block evaluates the originality and historical significance of the Knickerbocker rules of 1845, revisits European studies on the ancestry of baseball which indicate that the game dates back hundreds, if not thousands of years, and assembles a detailed history of games and pastimes from the Middle Ages onward that contributed to baseball's development. In its thoroughness and reach, and its extensive descriptive bibliography of early baseball sources, this book is a unique and invaluable resource-a comprehensive, reliable, and readable account of baseball before it was America's game.

David Block is a long-time collector of early baseball books and memorabilia, and is a passionate, lifelong fan of the game and its history.


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  • Hardcover: 352 pages
  • Publisher: University of Nebraska Press (March 1, 2005)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0803213395
  • ISBN-13: 978-0803213395
  • Product Dimensions: 8.6 x 5.5 x 1.6 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 1 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 4.8 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (16 customer reviews)
  • Amazon.com Sales Rank: #932,133 in Books (See Bestsellers in Books)

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5.0 out of 5 stars Breaking new ground, October 16, 2005
I was initially not going to write a review of this book, as there are already many justly praising it. The one negative review, however, saying that this book has little in it not in Harold Peterson's "The Man Who Invented Baseball" (published over thirty years ago) gave me pause. On one level it is clearly true. I remember as a boy my father telling me about Alexander Cartwright and the New York Knickerbockers, and dismissing the Abner Doubleday story. I don't know that he read Peterson's book, but the timing is right and Peterson did popularize the Cartwright story. This provoked me to dig out my out copy of Peterson and read it for the first time in many years. I can now definitively assure you that David Block is most certainly not just recycling Peterson's book.

They agree that there were earlier versions of ball-and-stick games, which they discuss, and that the version of the game that has come down to us as modern baseball was standardized by the Knickerbocker club.

That may make it look like they have similar theses, but they really do not. Peterson's thesis is right there in his title: someone invented baseball and he knows who it was. Earlier versions were fundamentally different from the Knickerbocker game, and the Knickerbocker game was the product one man's flash of genius. Earlier games are discussed, but they don't really matter, since the Knickerbocker game is taken as being so different. The discussions of earlier games mostly are there to discredit the Doubleday story, which typically has predecessor games being even more primitive than in the Cartwright story

Block's goal is also named in his title: he is seeking baseball's roots. The Knickerbocker game is part of a story that began centuries earlier. Earlier versions aren't a distraction, they are the story. Only by knowing what came before can we see what the Knickerbockers did and didn't do: what parts of their game were selections from an existing menu of options and what parts were true innovations. It turns out to be far more interesting than any myth of a heroic lone genius.

Why should we believe Block rather than Peterson? Peterson's is a book with no footnotes, but with detailed descriptions of events down to quoted conversations. Even if the events were found in histories that actually cited sources, we would know that this is fiction. Peterson probably considered it putting a human face on the story. I consider it making stuff up. He does that a lot. The chapters on early ball-and-stick games are a mish-mash of solid data, poorly understood facts, and utter fiction. So it is that he can, on adjacent pages, give two contradictory accounts of the origin of cricket. He has a story to tell and he isn't going to let facts get in the way. Block's book started out as an annotated bibliography of early baseball sources and Block is meticulous about documentation. When he is forced to interpret beyond the actual evidence he tells us this. You come away knowing exactly what is really known and what is educated guesswork. It is honest history.

I rarely give five stars in my reviews, but I have no qualms about doing so here. The book is quite simply the important book on the subject published in my lifetime. It may be surpassed some day, but that day isn't likely to be soon. For the foreseeable future this is the one book to own if you have any interest in the origins of baseball.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Fascinating Study of Baseball's Mist-Shrouded Origins, August 27, 2005
By Theo Logos (Pittsburgh, PA) - See all my reviews
Baseball is a "what have you done for me lately?" kind of game, which in part may explain how little has been written about the game's earliest origins. Add that to the facts that many baseball fans are satisfied to believe the false myth (discredited almost from the point that it was first put forward) that Abner Doubleday invented baseball out of whole clothe in Cooperstown, New York, and that some fans are only interested in baseball history that can be explained through statistics, and you begin to understand why the game's true origins have been so widely ignored.
David Block steps into this breach with a well researched, fascinating book that examines the history of our National pastime from its earliest origins through its evolution into the modern game. His original intent was simply to compile a bibliography of all the books and sources that touch on this subject, and indeed, nearly half the length of `Baseball Before We Knew It' is taken up with his bibliography and various appendices. He spends several chapters debunking not only the already thoroughly debunked Doubleday myth, but also challenging the more widely accepted theory that baseball evolved from the English game of rounders, and even calling into question how important Alexander Cartwright actually was in formulating the earliest rules of the official American game.
The most fascinating part of Block's book is his delving into the early European origins of Baseball. Much of his research here is not original, but he does have some interesting original interpretations of the scant evidence that can be gleaned from these early references to games that seem to have a family resemblance to baseball. In his last chapter he presents a theoretical flowchart of baseball's evolution from the Medieval European ball game called Longball, complete with all the various ball games that seemed to influence it and branch off from it on its way to becoming our modern game of American Baseball.
Block admits that his book is far from the last word on the subject, but hopes that it will reinvigorate fans interest in the often overlooked history of the game's origins. His extensive bibliography provides many clues for continued reading on the subject, though many of the cited sources are obviously rare and hard to find. `Baseball Before We Knew It' is a great contribution to the literature of the history of a game which is uniquely tied to the culture and history of the United States, and should be appreciated not only by the serious baseball fan, but by all of those with an interest in American cultural history.

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5.0 out of 5 stars David Block Has Set New Standard For Early Baseball Research, February 11, 2005
The scope and depth of Block's research is staggering. Yet, his organization and style of writing are clear and engaging. Both his research and his writing make this a great work of integrity; the integrity to delve so far and wide, the integrity to personally view each source (of which there are hundreds), the integrity to correct the mistakes of previous findings even when it subtracted support for the author's own findings, and most of all, the integrity to resist conjecture.

The book's bibliography of nearly 60 pages is in itself a book, containing hundreds of literary and other references to baseball between the years 1450 and 1861. The author not only provides informative notes on the baseball related content of the individual sources, but often makes engaging comments on the rarity, location or visual aspects of the source such as illustrations, diagrams and other characteristics of particular works.

There is even a chapter which the author, generously and wisely, included that was contributed by his brother Philip. If you think that it is enough to know that the Abner Doubleday-Inventor of Baseball is just a worn out myth, think again. This chapter sheds a whole new light on the whole affair, and gives additional insight into this portion of our National Pastime's "history."

David is more than just kind to those who's shoulders he admittingly stood upon. He not only is quick to acknowledge their pioneering work, but when his own work effectively nullifies the work of those who labored before him, he is quick to offer additional insights into how erroneous conclusions may have been reached and is just as quick to point out that his predecessors did not have the modern technological research tools available to him.

This book belongs on the shelves of a wide variety of readers; from researchers and scholars to plain old baseball fans (who are sometimes also researchers and scholars). No serious discussion or writing about the early origins of baseball for the next hundred years will omit David Block's, "Baseball before We Knew It."
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5.0 out of 5 stars An in-depth study of baseball and its historical roots
Baseball Before We Knew It: A Search For The Roots Of The Game by baseball historian and expert David Block is a well researched, expertly written, inherently interesting, reader... Read more
Published on April 6, 2006 by Midwest Book Review

5.0 out of 5 stars WOWSER! All This and Occultists, too!
Having just been to Block's talk at the Harold Washington Library in Chicago, this reader got an eeyeful and an earful, bought the book and began reading it on the "el" on the way... Read more
Published on April 5, 2006 by Mark F. Braun

4.0 out of 5 stars Very interesting new material
The author seems to be primarily engaged in trying to debunk three myths: (1) that Gen. Abner Doubleday invented the game, (2) that the real inventor was Alexander J. Read more
Published on March 7, 2006 by Bruce R. Gilson

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I have just read a number of rave reviews for Baseball Before We Knew It, so I won't try to outdo them. Read more
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5.0 out of 5 stars New history of the national pastime
This scholarlt book reveals NEW historical information about the origins of the game. It bis a MUST for all SERIOUS fans of the game. Read more
Published on June 20, 2005 by Bruce S. Alpert

5.0 out of 5 stars A whole new way of looking at the history of baseball
As a child I learned of Abner Doubleday and his "invention" of baseball. Then I heard about Alexander Cartwright. Then I heard about rounders. Read more
Published on June 10, 2005 by R. Timmermann

5.0 out of 5 stars The new Bible for baseball's beginnings
This book makes all the other books on baseball's origins obsolete. Not only meticulously researched and - more importantly - referenced, "Baseball Before We Knew It" cuts through... Read more
Published on May 23, 2005 by Mr. M. J. A. Hoerchner

2.0 out of 5 stars Old News
Far from containing any ground-breaking revelations, this book is essentially old news. Except for a few details that Block has added, virtually everything in it can be found in... Read more
Published on May 3, 2005 by Ralph Hickok

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David Block's fascinating book is essential for anyone interested in learning more abot the origins of baseball. Read more
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5.0 out of 5 stars A Landmark Book
Like others who have been reading and reviewing David Block's book, I regard this as a major milestone in the published history of baseball. Read more
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