or
Sign in to turn on 1-Click ordering.
 
 
Express Checkout with PayPhrase
What's this? | Create PayPhrase
Sorry!
More Buying Choices
58 used & new from $1.33

Have one to sell? Sell yours here
 
   
Gay Marriage: Why It Is Good for Gays, Good for Straights, and Good for America
 
 
Tell the Publisher!
I’d like to read this book on Kindle

Don’t have a Kindle? Get your Kindle here.
 
  

Gay Marriage: Why It Is Good for Gays, Good for Straights, and Good for America (Paperback)

~ (Author) "When I was six years old, I went with my family from Phoenix, where I was born and raised, to visit New York..." (more)
Key Phrases: married gay couples, life without marriage, gay marriage, United States, Long Dark Age, Supreme Court (more...)
3.9 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (26 customer reviews)

List Price: $14.00
Price: $11.90 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25. Details
You Save: $2.10 (15%)
o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o
In Stock.
Ships from and sold by Amazon.com. Gift-wrap available.

Only 3 left in stock--order soon (more on the way).

Want it delivered Wednesday, November 11? Choose One-Day Shipping at checkout. Details
30 new from $1.50 27 used from $1.33 1 collectible from $12.00

Formats

Amazon Price New from Used from
  Library Binding $21.00 $21.00 $27.83
  Paperback $11.90 $1.50 $1.33

Frequently Bought Together

Customers buy this book with Same-Sex Marriage: Pro and Con by Andrew Sullivan

Gay Marriage: Why It Is Good for Gays, Good for Straights, and Good for America + Same-Sex Marriage: Pro and Con
  • This item: Gay Marriage: Why It Is Good for Gays, Good for Straights, and Good for America by Jonathan Rauch

    In Stock.
    Ships from and sold by Amazon.com.
    Eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25. Details

  • Same-Sex Marriage: Pro and Con by Andrew Sullivan

    In Stock.
    Ships from and sold by Amazon.com.
    Eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25. Details


Customers Who Bought This Item Also Bought

Why Marriage Matters: America, Equality, and Gay People's Right to Marry

Why Marriage Matters: America, Equality, and Gay People's Right to Marry

by Evan Wolfson
Beyond (Straight and Gay) Marriage: Valuing All Families under the Law (Queer Ideas)

Beyond (Straight and Gay) Marriage: Valuing All Families under the Law (Queer Ideas)

by Nancy D. Polikoff
4.8 out of 5 stars (4)  $10.88
The Future of Marriage

The Future of Marriage

by David Blankenhorn
4.9 out of 5 stars (7)  $12.21
Unbending Gender: Why Family and Work Conflict and What to Do About It

Unbending Gender: Why Family and Work Conflict and What to Do About It

by Joan Williams
4.6 out of 5 stars (15)  $11.26
Taking Sex Differences Seriously

Taking Sex Differences Seriously

by Steven E. Rhoads
3.5 out of 5 stars (24)  $21.80
Explore similar items

Editorial Reviews

Amazon.com Review

Marriage, when it's right (and usually when it's wrong), is a subject that stirs strong feelings. Gay marriage inspires its own set of passions, with opponents decrying it as a step that will undermine the very fabric of society while supporters posit it as an inevitable next stage in step-by-step acceptance of homosexuality by mainstream America. Appearing as the issue heats ups following President George W. Bush's call for a constitutional amendment that would block the gathering tide of gay nuptials, this polemic by Atlantic Monthly/National Journal writer Jonathan Rauch deftly walks a fine line, both personalizing the subject (Rauch is a gay man with a longtime lover and a lifelong wistful attitude about marriage) and addressing it with an intellectual poise informed by historical and philosophical perspectives. Rauch actually supports the steady-as-she-goes, state-by-state advancement of gay marriage, believing that "same sex marriage will work best when people accept and understand it, whereas a sudden national enactment, where it suddenly to happen, might spark a culture war on the order of the abortion battle." Might? It says a lot about Rauch's temperance that he doesn't forecast an inevitably fractious future for the nation while it sorts through the implications of gay weddings. There are more impassioned perspectives on the issue, but Rauch's positive approach advances the issue with a welcome coolheadedness that actually suits the controversy. This is, after all, a fight over the right of traditional outsiders to engage in an inherently conservative institution. --Steven Stolder --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.


From Publishers Weekly

In this highly readable but rarely innovative polemic, Atlantic Monthly correspondent and National Journal columnist Rauch argues that the gradual legalization of gay marriage can only strengthen the institution it wishes to expand. He argues that pervasive separate-but-equal strategies would weaken the institution of marriage more than marriage for all, because of the inevitable appeal of "marriage-lite" to heterosexual couples who might otherwise marry. (A recent New York Times article documents precisely that phenomenon in France.) Yet for Rauch, currently a writer-in-residence at the Brookings Institution, the most compelling argument for gay marriage is moral, and only tangentially related to the principle of granting citizens equal rights under the law. Echoing recent arguments by Andrew Sullivan and David Brooks, Rauch defends gay marriage as the only social reform that can save gays from what he characterizes as the adolescent and unfulfilling lifestyle that love and sex outside of marriage has forced upon same-sex couples for centuries. Allowing gays to participate in "the great civilizing institution" would inevitably ennoble gay relationships; providing access to marriage would give them access to "a better kind of love." Such sallies will leave some readers wondering whether "better," for Rauch, really means "straight"; "If I could have designed myself in the womb," writes Rauch (who is openly gay) elsewhere, "I would have chosen to be heterosexual." Reporting such fantasies may win Rauch points for honesty, but they don't do much for his argument, other than to allow straights who support equal rights but are uneasy with homosexuality itself to identify with his position more easily. Such mixed signals make for a decidedly mixed bag.
Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved. --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.

Product Details

  • Paperback: 224 pages
  • Publisher: Holt Paperbacks (December 23, 2004)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0805078150
  • ISBN-13: 978-0805078152
  • Product Dimensions: 8.1 x 5.4 x 0.8 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 6.4 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 3.9 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (26 customer reviews)
  • Amazon.com Sales Rank: #309,338 in Books (See Bestsellers in Books)

    Popular in this category: (What's this?)

    #55 in  Books > Gay & Lesbian > Nonfiction > Civil Rights

More About the Author

Jonathan Rauch
Discover books, learn about writers, read author blogs, and more.

Visit Amazon's Jonathan Rauch Page

Inside This Book (learn more)




What Do Customers Ultimately Buy After Viewing This Item?

Gay Marriage: Why It Is Good for Gays, Good for Straights, and Good for America
77% buy the item featured on this page:
Gay Marriage: Why It Is Good for Gays, Good for Straights, and Good for America 3.9 out of 5 stars (26)
$11.90
Why Marriage Matters: America, Equality, and Gay People's Right to Marry
9% buy
Why Marriage Matters: America, Equality, and Gay People's Right to Marry 4.2 out of 5 stars (16)
Same-Sex Marriage and the Constitution
5% buy
Same-Sex Marriage and the Constitution 4.7 out of 5 stars (3)
$21.59
Same-Sex Marriage: Pro and Con
5% buy
Same-Sex Marriage: Pro and Con 4.0 out of 5 stars (11)
$12.52

Tags Customers Associate with This Product

 (What's this?)
Click on a tag to find related items, discussions, and people.
 
(1)

Your tags: Add your first tag
 

Sell a Digital Version of This Book in the Kindle Store

If you are a publisher or author and hold the digital rights to a book, you can sell a digital version of it in our Kindle Store. Learn more

 

Customer Reviews

26 Reviews
5 star:
 (16)
4 star:
 (1)
3 star:
 (3)
2 star:
 (2)
1 star:
 (4)
 
 
 
 
 
Average Customer Review
3.9 out of 5 stars (26 customer reviews)
 
 
 
 
Share your thoughts with other customers:
Most Helpful Customer Reviews

 
69 of 75 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Best argument I've seen thus far..., March 18, 2004
By Dr. Jonathan Dolhenty (Port Orford, OR United States) - See all my reviews
(TOP 1000 REVIEWER)      
Suddenly, there seems to be an avalanche of books about the gay-marriage issue appearing in America's bookstores. There is little doubt now that the controversy over granting legal marriages to gay persons is snowballing and has become the hot topic of the times. Jonathan Rauch's book is another contribution to the debate and, to his credit, he does provide a slightly different slant on the issue from what I've read in other books.

Rauch, a correspondent for The Atlantic Monthly, columnist for National Journal, and a writer-in-residence at the Brookings Institution, tends to de-emphasize the all-too-common "equal rights" argument and suggests, instead, that gay marriage would be good for American society because it would increase respect for the institution of marriage itself. To be clear about this, he doesn't dismiss the matter of equal rights but says "I wouldn't support same-sex marriage as a matter of equal rights if I thought it would wreck opposite-sex marriage."

One of the very basic questions regarding the question of marriage is, What is marriage for? He spends an entire chapter discussing this question, which sets the stage for his argument that gay marriage would be good, not only for gays, but for straights and for marriage in general. So, what is marriage for? Well, whatever else it is, he says, "it is a commitment to be there." I interpret him to mean that in this special relationship called "marriage," both parties to the compact promise to help and comfort one another when times are tough, in sickness and in health, etc., etc., which is, of course, a common understanding of what is, in fact, involved in a marriage -- at least ideally. He uses the term "prime-caregiver" and maintains that this is an essential condition of the marriage relationship. I don't think anyone would disagree.

But then Rauch goes on to use this condition and some other benefits of the marital relationship to argue for gay-marriage as opposed to "same-sex unions" or "domestic partnerships," situations which he refers to as "marriage-lite." I'm not sure I buy his argument at this point. I don't think many would disagree that gay couples have a legitimate concern regarding caregiver status, legal and financial benefits, hospital visitation rights, and all the other rights and privileges that opposite-sex couples currently enjoy under the marriage umbrella. I don't see why these conditions cannot be realized within the "same-sex union" designation, without applying the term "marriage" to the relationship. In Chapter Two of his book, Rauch presents his case against my reservation. And, frankly, he presents a good case. It isn't compelling, in my opinion, but it comes close to persuasive. And I am sympathetic with most of the points he makes.

Now we come to a section of the book that one might consider the "trilogy of benefits." In Chapter Three, Rauch discusses the specific benefits that gays will enjoy if given the right to marry and they are fairly obvious, of course. In Chapter Four, on how the straights will benefit, he includes some very interesting material and states some points that I suspect most of us haven't done much thinking about. In Chapter Five, he discusses how marriage-in-general will benefit from gay marriage, and again he presents an interesting argument, one which should not be taken lightly by the opponents of gay marriage. I think I won't disclose any details about the latter two chapters, hopefully providing a teaser for the potential reader.

One of the major concerns that social conservatives seem to have with the gay-marriage issue surrounds the idea that gays, particularly of the male persuasion, are unduly promiscuous and that granting gays the right to marry would fail to change that behavior. Furthermore, bringing this alleged promiscuousness into marriage would harm the institution itself. Rauch addresses this concern and is upfront and honest about it and he should be commended for his forthrightness. He admits there are important problems here and offers some suggestions as to how they might be resolved.

In my opinion, one of the best chapters in Rauch's book deals with "The Debt to Tradition." Here he seems to be at his best. No where else, and I mean nowhere, have I read a discussion about the gay-marriage issue quite like he provides in this chapter. Suffice to say, he brings two of my favorite people into the debate, F.A. Hayek and Edmund Burke (excellent political theorists both), and then the topics of utopias, social engineering, church-state relations, secular culture, reactionary traditionalism, and so on are thrown into the mix, and finally some rational light is thrown on how to deal with, not only the legitimacy of gay marriage, but how to transition to it. (The reading of this short chapter is worth the price of the book.)

And, if gay marriage is to become a reality, how the transition to it takes place is vital. The position that Rauch takes is basically the same as the one I would take. I am already on record as opposing any constitutional amendment regarding the definition of marriage. Messing with the Constitution seems to get us into trouble. Furthermore, I don't think that Congress should be involved in the situation. Rauch suggests, and I concur, that the best approach is to leave the matter to the individual states. Let us "try it out" here and there, see what happens, make adjustments where necessary, and so on. Actually, Rauch's position is very "conservative" and he comes off like a good proponent of "states rights." His next-to-last chapter on "Getting It Right" outlines his proposals and I think one will find it difficult to argue against them.

This is a very readable book by someone who has a deep interest in his subject and has done his homework, that is, the thinking necessary to present a complex argument regarding a controversial change in our nation's social fabric. I recommend it to all those interested in the gay-marriage issue.
Comment Comments (3) | Permalink | Was this review helpful to you? Yes No (Report this)



 
19 of 24 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars thoughtful, rational, sensible, May 4, 2004
Amazon Verified Purchase(What's this?)
Jonathan Rauch's new book, "Gay Marriage" is just what the country needs right now....less shouting and more reason. Rauch wisely frames his arguments regarding homosexuality in America around the issue of marriage as it has emerged in a rapid-fire way as the central social issue of the day.

De-mystifying most of the arguments made by conservatives, Rauch nonetheless is willing to be open and fair with them...to a point. His point, that same-sex marriage will be good for everyone is accurate, but as he also stresses it could have the possibility of a downside in its implementation. His premise reflects the old saying, "a rising tide lifts all boats".

Rauch encourages the reader to think about the issue which is good advice as it seems that so many in the United States more viscerally react to the idea of same-sex marriage than give it a mindful rendering. In his discussion regarding what some perceive to be an immature side to homosexuality I wish he had made note of one thing.....the fact that a few states allow heterosexual minors to marry... Hawaii and Georgia for instance, allow marriages at sixteen.

The author makes it clear that until gay marriage is accepted homosexuals will continue to be viewed as second-class citizens. Civil unions just won't do, he remarks, but adds that at least they are better than nothing. His beginning and ending chapters reflect what all gays feel and all straights should read....imagining a life without the possibility of marriage. Jonathan Rauch gives clarity to his arguments and a hope that marriage will someday be an option for all people. His book is not so much ahead of its time, but more appropriately right on time....and right on the mark.

Comment Comment | Permalink | Was this review helpful to you? Yes No (Report this)



 
29 of 38 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars logica defense of Gay Marriage, March 19, 2004
The social battle over same sex marriage has become part of the presidential debate, as George "amendment happy" Bush and John "wuss union not marriage" Kerry argue the so-called cons. Vice President Cheney cannot look himself in the eyes while shaving as he hides behind his boss. Amongst the known leaders only Senator Gephardt shows courage supporting his daughter's rights.

Author Jonathan Rauch provides a timely powerful argument that gender is not the key. Instead if a couple fall in love why can't they marry and care for each other as they grow old together. Mr. Rauch says whether the couple consists of a man and a woman, a man and a man, or a woman and a woman, who cares. What should matter is the participants are willing adults wanting to form a permanent relationship that actually enhances the community.

Mr. Rauch logically defends GAY MARRIAGE as supporting family values and strengthening the meaning of marriage while making and extending the inclusiveness of basic rights. Easy to follow the critical thinking path laid out by the author in which he eloquently defends that if marriage is a sacred historical bond between a man and a woman, then why does so many break this "consecrated" act including social conservatives who scream for its sanctity. Those unsure of their stand will find Mr. Rauch makes quite a powerful pitch reversing the arguments of opponents by using the social conservative's logic to defend GAY MARRIAGE. For a well written historical similar venue involving interracial couples, see the well written TELL THE COURT I LOVE MY WIFE: RACE, MARRIAGE, AND LAW - AN AMERICAN HISTORY by Peter Wallenstein.

Harriet Klausner

Comment Comment | Permalink | Was this review helpful to you? Yes No (Report this)


Share your thoughts with other customers: Create your own review
 
 
Most Recent Customer Reviews

2.0 out of 5 stars In The Dust of Death
We can be thankful at least in Rauch's book that he doesn't paint those of us who are conservative Christians as homophobes who hate homosexuals. Read more
Published 4 months ago by ApologiaPhoenix

5.0 out of 5 stars Thoughtful and Convincing
Rauch, Jonathan. "Gay Marriage" Why It Is Good for Gays, Good for Straights, and Good for America", Holt Paperbacks, 2009. Read more
Published 5 months ago by Amos Lassen

3.0 out of 5 stars Fails to Convince This Skeptic
In this well-written book, Rauch comes across as thoughtful, intelligent, sincere and willing to give opposing arguments a fair shake. Read more
Published 11 months ago by J. Whelan

4.0 out of 5 stars It's so great!
Five Wishes: How Answering One Simple Question Can Make Your Dreams Come TrueThe Broken HA Secret EdgeAnd the Band Played On: Politics, People, and the AIDS Epidemic
Published on November 4, 2007 by Wu Chun Yen

5.0 out of 5 stars A Good Book about All Marriage (and a good wedding present)
A friend of mine (straight) was given this by a marriage counseler, and he passed it along to me with a comment that it could help a lot of troubled marriages. Read more
Published on September 27, 2007 by Greeper

5.0 out of 5 stars a must read for every thinking American......
Well written with historical facts of society and human dignity. Every one who thinks he/she is a free thinking, authentic human being believing in the constitution of this... Read more
Published on January 3, 2007 by D. N. Colley

5.0 out of 5 stars Enlightening and thought provoking
Having read two excellent books, A History of the Wife by Marilyn Yalom and Public Vows : A History of Marriage and the Nation by Nancy F. Read more
Published on March 4, 2006 by MotherLodeBeth

3.0 out of 5 stars Equality, or Mutual Caring?
Rauch is a leading author and contributor to numerous magazines, including the prestigious "National Journal. Read more
Published on August 1, 2005 by D. S. Heersink

5.0 out of 5 stars (...)
(...) Gay people should have rights too. You can't enforce a ban that takes away someone's rights.

You mention traditions as if they're really reliable... Read more
Published on June 12, 2005

5.0 out of 5 stars Fight for your right to marry!
I believe that marriage is a fundamental right that should be available to all: regardless of gender! Read more
Published on April 19, 2005 by Rage and Fury

Only search this product's reviews



Customer Discussions

This product's forum
Discussion Replies Latest Post
No discussions yet

Ask questions, Share opinions, Gain insight
Start a new discussion
Topic:
First post:
Prompts for sign-in
 


Active discussions in related forums
Search Customer Discussions
Search all Amazon discussions
   




Product Information from the Amapedia Community

Beta (What's this?)


Look for Similar Items by Category


Look for Similar Items by Subject

 

Feedback

If you need help or have a question for Customer Service, contact us.
 Would you like to update product info or give feedback on images?
Is there any other feedback you would like to provide?

Your comments can help make our site better for everyone.


Your Recent History

 (What's this?)

After viewing product detail pages or search results, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in.