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~ Jr. Vine Deloria (Author) "INDIANS ARE LIKE the weather..." (more)
Key Phrases: reservation people, termination bill, reservation programs, United States, Civil Rights, South Dakota (more...)
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  • Paperback: 278 pages
  • Publisher: University of Oklahoma Press (January 1988)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0806121297
  • ISBN-13: 978-0806121291
  • Product Dimensions: 8.1 x 5.4 x 0.8 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 10.4 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 4.2 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (20 customer reviews)
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4.0 out of 5 stars Swallow Your Bile and Read On, March 2, 2000
By Benji Hughes (Memphis, TN; United States) - See all my reviews
So that there's no misunderstanding, I think Vine Deloria Jr is a great man. Not a perfect man, not one who's right all of the time, but a man who means well, and has done great things for Native Americans. My feelings about Custer Died for Your Sins are similar. It's a good book, this Indian Manifesto, and has the power to do great things, still, decades after its publication. But it's not perfect. If you're a Caucasian reader, you're going to get angry. Parts of the book simply aren't meant for you, and those parts that are, are very inflammatory. This is intentional. Deloria is a master of making people furious, in order to make them think. But it's also intentional, I think, because Deloria is, understandably, himself a bitter and angry man, in many ways. The book's passages on people of mixed descent are good examples. Deloria issues the blanket statement that Native/Caucasian people are, in fact, just White people with a royalty complex. He does this to make you angry, and he does this to make you think; he wants you to understand what you are doing when you claim tribal descent or affiliation, and he wants you to be sure you're doing so with the proper respect. But he's also doing it because he's annoyed, and very tired of White people who don't have said respect. He's making a mistake, though, in his implicit assumption that, somehow, being Caucasian is the default, and that to be a Native, one really should be a wholeblood. The book is also tinged with seeming contradictions (like one chapter devoted to the idea that Indians must solve their own problems because they are and should be responsible for their own lives; and then the chapter on how anthropologists are largely responsible for the problems of the modern Native American, a chapter where tribes play a largely passive role), but most of these are resolved when you consider both the complexity of the issue, and the complexity of the book. All in all, this Manifesto is *not* the place to begin one's exploration of Native issues, but it's one that *must* be read somewhere along the way.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Swallow Your Bile and Read On, March 2, 2000
By Benji Hughes (Memphis, TN; United States) - See all my reviews
So that there's no misunderstanding, I think Vine Deloria Jr is a great man. Not a perfect man, not one who's right all of the time, but a man who means well, and has done great things for Native Americans. My feelings about Custer Died for Your Sins are similar. It's a good book, this Indian Manifesto, and has the power to do great things, still, decades after its publication. But it's not perfect. If you're a Caucasian reader, you're going to get angry. Parts of the book simply aren't meant for you, and those parts that are, are very inflammatory. This is intentional. Deloria is a master of making people furious, in order to make them think. But it's also intentional, I think, because Deloria is, understandably, himself a bitter and angry man, in many ways. The book's passages on people of mixed descent are good examples. Deloria issues the blanket statement that Native/Caucasian people are, in fact, just White people with a royalty complex. He does this to make you angry, and he does this to make you think; he wants you to understand what you are doing when you claim tribal descent or affiliation, and he wants you to be sure you're doing so with the proper respect. But he's also doing it because he's annoyed, and very tired of White people who don't have said respect. He's making a mistake, though, in his implicit assumption that, somehow, being Caucasian is the default, and that to be a Native, one really should be a wholeblood. The book is also tinged with seeming contradictions (like one chapter devoted to the idea that Indians must solve their own problems because they are and should be responsible for their own lives; and then the chapter on how anthropologists are largely responsible for the problems of the modern Native American, a chapter where tribes play a largely passive role), but most of these are resolved when you consider both the complexity of the issue, and the complexity of the book. All in all, this Manifesto is *not* the place to begin one's exploration of Native issues, but it's one that *must* be read somewhere along the way.
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5.0 out of 5 stars and the fun continues...., May 8, 2002
What impressed me most about this book was its emphasis that imperialistic exploitation is not a dead relic of a past we Anglos are ashamed of and wish to forget. The fun continues, and it makes little difference what we call it: manifest destiny, bringing civilization to the primitives, or new world order.

Another point: we've been long overdue for a Deloria-style criticism of Anglos who exploit Indian folklore and beliefs. I refer to those who claim esoteric knowledge from Native shamans and all the rest of it. What such folks, including the anthropologists and social scientists who pretend more objectivity, never ask themselves is: do I have any right to make a profit and gain a reputation from the people I claim to have learned from? What do they get out of it? Does it benefit them or harm them? (The claim that Indian people don't need any kind of concrete benefits because they aren't "materialistic" is particularly nauseating.)

At one point, while contemplating doing some interviews with local Indians about their experience of being blinkered, baffled, and b.s.ed for 250 years, I reread parts of this book--particularly the "we want to be left alone" parts--and decided that I lacked the temerity even to ask for such interviews. Deloria suggests that no research of any kind be done that isn't approved in council and that doesn't clearly demonstrate some use to the Indians themselves. I would also suggest to other Anglo readers that before they involve themselves in matters indigenous they be very honest about their motivations--particularly where any notions of being "helpful" might occur. Our "helpfulness" has been genocidal and even now perpetrates stereotypes, as Indians may tell you if you're genuinely receptive to the feedback.

Books like this are a good reminder that the true primitive is he who goes on colonizing others--intellectually, religiously, economically--without having the courage to look at his own dark side as it flourishes in the here and now.

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5.0 out of 5 stars Funny and educational
Custer Died For Your Sins is a funny but educational look at how Native Americans have been treated - used and abused mostly - by Americans and their government since the first... Read more
Published 8 months ago by Michael Valdivielso

5.0 out of 5 stars Custer DID die for your sins
It's probably impossible to say anything about this book that Indians will not agree with and most non-Indians will not understand. Read more
Published on August 4, 2007 by lms12202

4.0 out of 5 stars Insightful, funny . . . and frustrating
This has become a period piece, as both Indians and the rest of North America have changed a lot since this was written in 1970. Read more
Published on December 10, 2006 by Arthur Digbee

5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent source for the Native American viewpoint
Despite the authors name, he has Indian ancestry, as do many contemporary author's do today. Non-Indians expect to see traditional names like Sitting Bull as writers. Read more
Published on March 20, 2006 by Alan Holmberg

3.0 out of 5 stars Many Wrongs Don't Make a Right
Vine Deloria's work is very important because he publicizes the concerns of Indians in the modern world. Read more
Published on October 14, 2005 by doomsdayer520

2.0 out of 5 stars Learn to Live Together
I don't tolerate the notion that racism solves the problem of racism and this is a book I'd like to single out. Read more
Published on March 8, 2005 by Edwin F. Hughes

4.0 out of 5 stars Part Rant, Part Manefesto
This is an all around good read. While there are problems that I had with the book the fact remains that I enjoyed it greatly as well. Read more
Published on March 5, 2004 by General Pete

1.0 out of 5 stars Poorly argued and very inconsistent
This book is, despite the hype and recommendations of academics, very poorly argued. He writes well, but is very inconsistent and many of his comments about whites, Christianity... Read more
Published on April 15, 2003

5.0 out of 5 stars A great read
This is a great book. Vine Deloria is an interesting author and he brings across good ideas.
As for the few people who believe that they hold no responsibility because their... Read more
Published on May 20, 2002 by phnixreborn

4.0 out of 5 stars Not an easy read -- but worth the effort!
Having frequently come across references to this 'classic' in other books on modern Indian affairs, I finally decided to read it. Read more
Published on May 8, 2002 by A. Cheney

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