Killer Poker Online/2 and over 360,000 other books are available for Amazon Kindle – Amazon’s new wireless reading device. Learn more

 

or
Sign in to turn on 1-Click ordering.
 
 
Express Checkout with PayPhrase
What's this? | Create PayPhrase
Sorry!
More Buying Choices
41 used & new from $3.05

Have one to sell? Sell yours here
 
   
Killer Poker Online, Vol. 2: Advanced Strategies for Crushing the Internet Game
 
 
Start reading Killer Poker Online/2 on your Kindle in under a minute.

Don’t have a Kindle? Get your Kindle here.
 
  

Killer Poker Online, Vol. 2: Advanced Strategies for Crushing the Internet Game (Paperback)

~ John Vorhaus (Author)
Key Phrases: skip loader, full fielder, sitngo players, Las Vegas, World Series of Poker, Wooly Bully (more...)
4.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (4 customer reviews)

List Price: $14.95
Price: $10.17 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25. Details
You Save: $4.78 (32%)
o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o
In Stock.
Ships from and sold by Amazon.com. Gift-wrap available.

Want it delivered Wednesday, November 11? Choose One-Day Shipping at checkout. Details
23 new from $7.54 17 used from $3.05 1 collectible from $14.95

Formats

Amazon Price New from Used from
  Kindle Edition $9.60 -- --
  Paperback $10.17 $7.54 $3.05

Frequently Bought Together

Killer Poker Online, Vol. 2: Advanced Strategies for Crushing the Internet Game + Killer Poker Online: Crushing the Internet Game + Killer Poker No Limit: A Winning Strategy for Cash Games and Tournaments
Price For All Three: $32.59

Show availability and shipping details

  • This item: Killer Poker Online, Vol. 2: Advanced Strategies for Crushing the Internet Game by John Vorhaus

    In Stock.
    Ships from and sold by Amazon.com.
    Eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25. Details

  • Killer Poker Online: Crushing the Internet Game by John Vorhaus

    In Stock.
    Ships from and sold by Amazon.com.
    Eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25. Details

  • Killer Poker No Limit: A Winning Strategy for Cash Games and Tournaments by John Vorhaus

    In Stock.
    Ships from and sold by Amazon.com.
    Eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25. Details


Customers Who Bought This Item Also Bought

Killer Poker No Limit: A Winning Strategy for Cash Games and Tournaments

Killer Poker No Limit: A Winning Strategy for Cash Games and Tournaments

by John Vorhaus
3.5 out of 5 stars (4)  $11.21
Killer Poker By the Numbers: Mathematical Edge for Winning Play

Killer Poker By the Numbers: Mathematical Edge for Winning Play

by Tony Guerrera
4.0 out of 5 stars (8)  $10.17
Earn $30,000 per Month Playing Online Poker: A Step-By-Step Guide to Single Table Tournaments

Earn $30,000 per Month Playing Online Poker: A Step-By-Step Guide to Single Table Tournaments

by Ryan Wiseman
2.2 out of 5 stars (11)  $13.57
Killer Poker: Strategy and Tactics for Winning Poker Play

Killer Poker: Strategy and Tactics for Winning Poker Play

by John Vorhaus
3.8 out of 5 stars (19)  $5.98
Killer Poker Hold'em Handbook: A Workbook for Winners

Killer Poker Hold'em Handbook: A Workbook for Winners

by John Vorhaus
Explore similar items

Editorial Reviews

Product Description

A revolutionary new approach to a revolutionary game

Since the 2003 publication of the groundbreaking Killer Poker Online, the Internet game has exploded and the online poker landscape has completely changed. More than 150,000 people are logged in and playing online for real money every day. What does this mean for you? Lots of opportunities to take serious money from novices. Update your Internet play now and make sure you get your share. In Killer Poker Online/2 You-ll learn how to:

  • Understand and exploit the patterns, tendencies, and weaknesses of online players

  • Play winning strategies that are not possible in real-world games

  • Beat the unique sit-and-go tournament

  • Vanquish foes in heads-up play

  • Recognize the pitfalls of online cash games

  • Navigate and dominate full-field online tournaments

The online game these days is both easier and harder to beat, and with Killer Poker Online/2, you-ll learn the latest strategies to bring home the cash.

Praise for John Vorhaus and Killer Poker

John Vorhaus has written more than three million words about poker in a career stretching back to 1988. His first book, The Pro Poker Playbook is now a hard-to-find classic, but in recent years his prolific pen has yielded Killer Poker: Strategy and Tactics for Winning Poker Play, Killer Poker Online: Crushing the Internet Game, The Killer Poker Hold-em Handbook and Poker Night: Winning at Home, in Casinos, and Beyond.

When not writing about poker or playing poker, Vorhaus writes screenplays and television shows, and travels extensively teaching others how to do these things. His seminal writing books, The Comic Toolbox and Creativity Rules! have guided and informed writers worldwide. His approach to the game of poker is summed up by the theme of his Killer Poker series, -Go big or go home!-

News Ambassador for UltimateBet.com, and poker color commentator for Fox Sports Net, he has been described by CNN as "the sage of poker of our time." --This text refers to the Kindle Edition edition.


Product Details

  • Paperback: 288 pages
  • Publisher: Lyle Stuart (September 1, 2006)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0818406615
  • ISBN-13: 978-0818406614
  • Product Dimensions: 8.2 x 5.5 x 0.9 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 10.4 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 4.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (4 customer reviews)
  • Amazon.com Sales Rank: #293,275 in Books (See Bestsellers in Books)

Inside This Book (learn more)

What Do Customers Ultimately Buy After Viewing This Item?

Killer Poker Online, Vol. 2: Advanced Strategies for Crushing the Internet Game
58% buy the item featured on this page:
Killer Poker Online, Vol. 2: Advanced Strategies for Crushing the Internet Game 4.0 out of 5 stars (4)
$10.17
Every Hand Revealed
14% buy
Every Hand Revealed 4.6 out of 5 stars (99)
$10.85
Sit 'n Go Strategy
11% buy
Sit 'n Go Strategy 4.4 out of 5 stars (43)
$16.47
Killer Poker By the Numbers: Mathematical Edge for Winning Play
8% buy
Killer Poker By the Numbers: Mathematical Edge for Winning Play 4.0 out of 5 stars (8)
$10.17

Tags Customers Associate with This Product

 (What's this?)
Click on a tag to find related items, discussions, and people.
 

Your tags: Add your first tag
 

 

Customer Reviews

4 Reviews
5 star:
 (2)
4 star:
 (1)
3 star:    (0)
2 star:
 (1)
1 star:    (0)
 
 
 
 
 
Average Customer Review
4.0 out of 5 stars (4 customer reviews)
 
 
 
 
Share your thoughts with other customers:
Most Helpful Customer Reviews

 
15 of 16 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Solid Book, November 9, 2006
By Marty A. Johnson "OhBoy74" (Independence, KY USA) - See all my reviews
(REAL NAME)   
I read a lot of poker books and a lot of the information in these books is repetitive. This is not the case with Killer Poker Online 2 by John Vorhaus. Vorhaus takes a more cerebral look than some other books that focus on technical analysis. This book is more about the philosophy and psychology of the online poker table than the other books I have read. Some of the concepts and information in the book I already subconsiously knew, but Vorhaus fleshed them out and made me think on a deeper contextual level.

I like best the section on heads up play. I think it is better than Harrington's HU strategy(HOH Vol 2). I love playing heads up and I can thank Vorhaus for improving my HU game light years.

This book will stay part of my poker library for years to come, along side the Harrington On Hold'em Volumes, Phil Gordon's Little Green and Little Blue Books, Brunson's Super System 1 & 2, and Caro's Book of Poker Tells. I am also planning to read Vorhaus's other poker books.
Comment Comment | Permalink | Was this review helpful to you? Yes No (Report this)



 
12 of 13 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars A good resource for online players, with a couple shortcomings, May 29, 2007
By Dan C. "A reader" (New York, NY United States) - See all my reviews
I received this book as a Christmas gift from my brother who knows that I like to play online; my first impression was "Oh no, not another poker book...and worst of all, this one looks like a gimmicky attempt to address online poker rather than live casino play." I wondered whether it would teach me anything new, or whether it was simply going to be one of the dozens of books out there that have a simple preflop chart, and advocate a no-frills tight and aggressive playing style. I must say I was pleasantly surprised -- Vorhaus has clearly done his homework and understands that online play requires a markedly different approach than playing live. I (like many others) used to place too much emphasis on "reading people", which is of course impossible when playing online. Not having that tool at my disposal made me delve deeper into the mathematics and probability of poker, and I think ultimately has made me a much better player, both live and online. I think truly appreciating this book requires enough humility to "unlearn" the strategies that you've become accustomed to while playing live -- Vorhaus discusses a lot of sit-and-go and multi-table tournament play (maybe because that's what you see most on TV) but I wish he had devoted a little more space to cash games.

Now for my constructive criticism: I can empathize somewhat with Vorhaus, because it's admittedly hard to write a book about online poker with a long life-span because the state of online poker changes so rapidly...for example, online play today looks substantially different than in 2004 (what some would consider to be its "glory-days"). The average online player today is better-educated, tighter preflop, and trickier post-flop. I think a lot of poker authors a few years ago got away with writing books advocating a simple tight and aggressive strategy, which was good enough to beat the average player back then, but at present might only be enough to turn you into a break-even player. But what I think Vorhaus COULD have included in his book -- or at least what I'd like to see published in SOME contemporary poker book -- is a description of the add-on software programs that have become more or less essential to optimize your online play. PokerTracker, PokerAce HUD, datamining tools...all of these I would consider to be a "must" for anyone wanting to get serious about their online game. Would it have been so hard for Vorhaus to at least pay lip service to these tools...? Sure, they may be outdated 3 or 4 years from now, but they've been the "gold standard" for the past few years, and I think any book about online poker wanting to present a complete picture of the online game requires a section explaining these tools and how to optimize their use. I guess one thing Vorhaus couldn't have foreseen was how the U.S. legislation in the Fall of 2006 would change the online poker scene forever...I think a lot of American players erroneously came to believe that the law made playing poker online illegal...when NOTHING could be further from the truth. It simply made it more difficult to deposit from the U.S., but there are still plenty of ways to fund accounts at the US-friendly poker sites. THe PokerSavior website has an oft-updated list of sites that continue to serve the U.S. market and the most frequently-used deposit methods at each. I think a book about online poker written today would look very different than Vorhaus' offering, although I will admit that his is one of the few to specifically address some aspects unique to online play...I've seen a few other books for sale that purport to discuss online poker, but they're simply poorly-written attempts to cash in on the online poker boom, and don't really offer anything new. Vorhaus' book doesn't fall into that trap, and I think it's a worthwhile investment for any online player.
Comment Comments (3) | Permalink | Was this review helpful to you? Yes No (Report this)



 
14 of 17 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars More of the same mostly useless advice, January 18, 2007
Killer Poker Online Vol. 2 was to be the redeeming value of this two part series. Most would expect that since the original book, "Killer Poker Online" left a lot to be desired, and focused on just about everything but actually playing, that this latest endeavor would expand upon the apparent foundation that Vorhaus was attempting to define previously. Unfortunately, we just get mostly more of the same useless information.

The major flaw with this book is that it provides little insight into how to actually win big pots, lose small ones, and "crush the internet game". To make matters worse, some of the advice about actual play which is given has been routinely dis-proven via real life examples. For instance, Vorhaus mentions that Sit-n-go tournaments should be utilized for entertainment only, in that trying to build a bankroll via this method is hazardous. He further mentions that Sit-n-go tournaments require more luck than skill.

The problem here is that many online regulars play only Sit-n-go games, and many famous, world renowned players found their way to stardom by focusing on Sit-n-go style games. But then to contradict himself, Vorhaus mentions that regular, multitable tournaments are your best bet. Any poker regular understands that multitable tournaments require luck as a prominent variable in your play. I don't understand how Vorhaus would consider luck to be too big of a factor in sit-n-go play, but not one in multitable tournament play. On top of that, at the final table in a multitable tournament the play is almost identical to sit-n-go games with the exception that not all players will begin the final table with the same amount of chips. Where are we to get this final table experience if we don't play sit-n-go games, especially considering that one position apart at the final table can be thousands, or even millions of dollars in payout differences?

His advice on cash game playing is limited, and mostly focuses on the philosophy of getting a big pot when you have a big hand, or folding your cards before you commit too much of your money with a losing hand. This is common sense stuff.

But sadly, most of the book involves the same type of "advice" given in the first; which is to talk about things outside of the game. Telling readers things like, "don't play tired", "don't play distracted", or "don't play with the TV on" all make sense and are worthy of mention, but I fail to see why they should be reiterated to the point of consuming a large percentage of the book.

Advice on booking is reiterated here as well, which is keeping track of other players' habits. This is good advice and should be stressed because most players will not do this, even those that agree that it would give their play an edge. With online poker however, unless you are playing very high limits where you regularly (on a daily basis) play the same people over and over, you rarely see the same person twice. This becomes especially true when considering that a single poker site may have tens of thousands of players in your limit range, and you play at 3 or 4 different sites on top of that. Not to mention, it doesn't serve much purpose to keep track of play styles if you don't know which strategies to use against such playstyles. Vorhaus successfully convinces the reader of the advantages of booking, while simultaneously failing to teach the reader what to do with his findings.

Something quite disturbing to me is that Vorhaus does spend quite a bit of time explaining what you shouldn't do, rather than what you should. He presents problems without solutions, and quite honestly gives more advice on how you can lose money than how you can make money. Any fool can go to a poker table and lose money, we don't need to learn that. While some may point out that examining mistakes is important in learning to avoid them (something I do not disagree with), it serves no purpose if a lesson isn't learned from it. For example, let's say I'm faced with a situation where big money could go either way on a big hand. Rather than simply understanding how I could lose big, it would be nice if a potential error was followed up with a practical solution or approach. So I know how not to lose big money on a hand, but do I know how to win big money on a hand? It seems to me a more productive approach to teach me the right way to do things, rather than teach me the wrong way to do things and then expect me to figure out an alternative.

To be honest there is no substitute for experience, and I think we know that holds true with just about anything. Getting experience in online poker is expensive though, so books are a good way to offset that cost by giving insight and helping to develop your game faster. Unfortunately, this book won't do that for you, unless of course you didn't know that distractions can make you lose focus. If you have absolutely no clue as to what online poker is, then this book comes highly recommended, otherwise you'll get a better return on your money elsewhere.
Comment Comments (6) | Permalink | Was this review helpful to you? Yes No (Report this)


Share your thoughts with other customers: Create your own review
 
 
 
Most Recent Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars Improve internet poker play
I have read a lot of internet poker books, this Killer Poker Online / 2 is one of the best if not the best. I saw immediate improvement in my play and my bottom line. Read more
Published 1 month ago by Mark A. Shortess

Only search this product's reviews



Customer Discussions

This product's forum
Discussion Replies Latest Post
No discussions yet

Ask questions, Share opinions, Gain insight
Start a new discussion
Topic:
First post:
Prompts for sign-in
 


Active discussions in related forums
Discussion Replies Latest Post
Poker Tagging for Game Day Poker Almanac Official Rules of Poker 2 5 days ago
tight tables 0 20 days ago
tight tables 0 20 days ago
Search Customer Discussions
Search all Amazon discussions
   




Product Information from the Amapedia Community

Beta (What's this?)


Look for Similar Items by Category


Look for Similar Items by Subject

Ad
 

Feedback

If you need help or have a question for Customer Service, contact us.
 Would you like to update product info or give feedback on images?
Is there any other feedback you would like to provide?

Your comments can help make our site better for everyone.


Your Recent History

 (What's this?)

After viewing product detail pages or search results, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in.