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"There's no better guide than Allyson when journeying through the surreal world of fan/celebrity interaction. She's smart, insightful and, best of all, supremely snarky." -- David Fury, Co-Executive Producer, Angel, Lost, 24

"Allyson is a damned entertaining writer." -- Tim Minear, Executive Producer, Firefly, Wonderfalls, The Inside

"Eye-opening. It's a fast and funny read --and you can't beat the title." -- Nicholas Brendon, Buffy the Vampire Slayer

"Allyson's take on fandom and internet community is refreshingly crisp and tart---like a Fresca in book form. And Nick Brendon just told your ass to read it, so get on that."--Sarah D. Bunting, TelevisionWithoutPity.com

When I called my mom to tell her that my friend Tim Minear, a television writer, named a character after me in a new pilot premiering on the FOX network, she was beside herself. She squealed with joy. "What does the character do?" she asked.

"Well, she gets her face and hands ripped off and is left for dead," I replied. "The character is Victim #4 in an episode about a serial killer."

Silence.

"I don't think I like your friend Tim very much," she said.

Allyson Beatrice lives a not-quite-ordinary life. Her job and almost everyone she knows are the result of spending too much time on the Internet talking about vampires, slayers and lesbian witches. And her encounters are even more unusual than you'd imagine.

"Will the Vampire People Please Leave the Lobby? is a hilarious collection of true stories from Allyson's days as one of the Internet's leading cult TV fan gurus...otherwise known as the "vampire people." Her mind-boggling escapades include clandestine campaigns to house famed TV producer/writer/director Joss Whedon's cat, meetings with network executives in dark steakhouses to try to save doomed TV shows and one hastily arranged wedding for two committed Buffy fans.

Honest, emotional and side-splittingly snarky, Allyson Beatrice brings a fresh voice to these wild but true stories. Will the Vampire People Please Leave the Lobby? welcomes you to a fun and sometimes bizarre world where stupidity frustrates, wit triumphs and connections are made in most unlikely ways...a world, in fact, not too different from our own.


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  • Paperback: 272 pages
  • Publisher: Sourcebooks, Inc.; 1 edition (August 1, 2007)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 1402208456
  • ISBN-13: 978-1402208454
  • Product Dimensions: 7.9 x 5.9 x 0.8 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 12.8 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 3.7 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (24 customer reviews)
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26 of 31 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars An Interesting Biography of a More-Than-Fan, September 21, 2007
When you read this book, you're not reading a tale about Buffy, or of fans in general. You're really reading the biography of a specific "super fan". Allyson Beatrice knows (as she mentions several times) several writers and producers for shows such as Firefly, Buffy, Angel and so on. She has been in Joss Whedon's "sphere" for many years. She has been extremely active and instrumental in the forums about those shows, the efforts to keep the shows going, and the parties.

Allyson would be the first to admit that she's a flawed character, which is a good thing. Reading someone "self praising" through an entire book can get quite tedious. Allyson does mention her high points, but she is quick to point out that she can be nasty and cut-throat in forum postings as well. It makes her more human.

Unfortunately, that's the way she begins the book. She starts by bashing people who love TV shows like Buffy, looking down on them and pitying them. Now, I have to admit that I didn't watch Buffy - the theme of a pretty blonde girl in High School just didn't appeal to me - but I love sci-fi in general. I saw Star Wars ten times when it first came out, and spent my childhood completely immersed in anything sci-fi and fantasy that I could. I read Lord of the Rings at least yearly. So while I didn't feel personal angst about her diatribe against Buffy people, it still bugged me that she - who used to love the show - could turn so easily against people who felt that kinship. It set a poor tone for the book.

I kept going, though. I was rewarded in portions by laugh out loud commentary. Surely anyone who has been on forums can relate to some of the situations described. It has nothing to do with Buffy - it simply has to do with online web forums. In one area she talks about how forum arguments tend to escalate until someone brings up Hitler or Nazis - and that the person who does this is immediately considered as having lost the argument, and the thread is shut down. I happened to have been with my father while reading this, and he had this exact situation happen only a few weeks earlier on a USGENWEB (genealogy) group.

Part of the issue I have with the book is that it makes it seem at times that Buffy fans were unique in their reactions and issues. I can probably cite exact duplicates of pretty much every situation here - from the woman lying about her dying child on a forum for sympathy, to people gathering thousands of dollars to help out a friend they'd never met, to tons of online people meeting together for the first time - in numerous other forums. These are, really, very common things on the web.

I've been to many science fiction conventions. The situations she mentions have actually been going on BEFORE there was an internet (really, there was such a time!). People used to have paper newsletters, mail groups and phone conversations.

So it felt a bit silly to hear for the fourth or fifth time how amazing it was that people who had NEVER MET BEFORE were getting together to see each other! Yikes! They'd only talked remotely before? And now they were in person? Really, this happens all the time. It's neat, but it's common.

So in the end, I had a mixed reaction. I certainly enjoyed some sections. Other, long sections felt more like reading someone's personal diary - with people I'd never met, and who weren't described in enough detail for me to really connect with. Yet other sections felt a little like reading Al Gore talk about how he invented the Internet.

If you've ever been involved in forum activity, this book will probably have areas you really enjoy. I'd highly recommend getting it out from the library - or borrowing a copy from a friend, to glean those gems from the book. But as far as a book that I'd repeatedly read, or that I enjoyed from start to finish, it didn't fall into that category for me.
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38 of 48 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars Interesting writing about fans of shows -- though not much about the shows themselves, August 13, 2007
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My reaction to this book was fairly complex. There are parts that I liked a great deal and parts that I did not care for at all. And I'm baffled by the string of five-star reviews. I know there is a lot of room for disagreement about such things and perhaps I'm missing something. I certainly don't see it as being as funny as other reviewers are finding it.

I guess I have to start by explaining my own stance to "fandom." I currently have a somewhat disproportionate number of featured reviews for the shows I most care about, whether DVDs or books, for instance BUFFY, ANGEL, BATTLESTAR GALACTICA, DEAD LIKE ME, WONDERFALLS, LOST, VERONICA MARS, THE OFFICE, HEROES, FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS, and their ilk. I also post on one private board (which was formed by invitation only when the old City of Angel board was overwhelmed by trolls and shippers when they shut down the old WB Angel official board) and one public one, the official BSG board on Scifi.com. But that is about all. I've never attended any event connected to any series, never been to any convention, never met anyone I've gotten to know through any Internet board, and apart from buying a beanie baby angel bear to support the Save Angel campaign, never engaged in the vast majority Save the Show activities described here. My reviewing on Amazon comprises almost all of my involvement with almost any show I could mention. So while I'm vaguely familiar with much of what Ms. Beatrice describes, it isn't my world, though I will pit my knowledge of BUFFY and FIREFLY and BSG against anyone. My involvement is--except for the one private board of which I am a member and on which I post 4 or 5 times a day--exclusively with the show and not with "fandom." Watching FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS or LOST is not, for me, a communal experience.

Still, much of what is contained in the book is distantly familiar. I know how trolls or shippers (people who focus exclusively on romances on a show rather than overarching themes or character development) can destroy a board. When she writes of Televisionwithoutpity.com's boards, I remember how totalitarian the moderators there can be, reprimanding posters for having written something on THIS thread when any minimally moral person knows that it should have been posted on THAT one (TVWOP does have funny summaries of shows, but it is the least fun board I've ever seen). And I enjoyed reading her when she wrote about boards and stuff. I honestly did. I didn't laugh like the other reviewers say they did. I found it more humorous than funny. But all in all I didn't find it as good as other reviewers found it nor did she describe a world I really wanted to be more involved with. I read an awful lot, watch a lot of TV (always either on DVD or "by appointment"--I haven't "channel surfed" in the past 20 years even once), and watch a lot of movies. Or spend time with real life friends going out to eat, out to get a drink, or out to see a movie. I simply don't have time to be a part of an online community.

I have to confess that the book started off on an extremely alienating note that might have colored the way that I responded to the rest of the book. She starts off her book with a diatribe against people who write academic papers on BUFFY. She writes, "I feel a sense of pity that these folks [the academic admirers of BUFFY] are still stuck in a continuous loop of BUFFY watchage through the show has been off the air for as many years as it was actually worth watching" (p. 3). Setting aside the question of whether the show was worth watching in Seasons 6 and 7 (and I believe it most definitely was, though I will grant it was not as consistently as good as it had been), there is a MASSIVE amount of projection going on here. She states later that the only BUFFY papers she likes reading are the ones about fandom. Those are precisely the ones that I don't like to read. Fandom bores me to tears. What interests me is textual analysis of shows. For a few decades about the only papers about TV shows that were ever written were either about fandom (e.g., endless papers about why people dress up like characters from STAR TREK) or the nature of the medium of television. You will look in vain for more than a small handful of academic papers analyzing concrete themes in a TV series prior to the early nineties. Only in the nineties did people stop writing about fans or what distinguishes TV from reading or movies and start writing about what the shows were about. So, I see her interest in articles about fandom to be incredibly regressive, a fleeing to an age of TV studies that "Thank God!" we had left behind. And if you look over an exhaustive bibliography of BUFFY you will find that the vast majority of articles analyze themes or characters on the show, instead of the audience.

But the main problem with her complaint about academics is the sheer projection. She moves from feeling that she can no longer engage in any kind of meaningful critique to insisting that any attempted such critique is "weird" (p. 2). Almost every paragraph in that chapter, "Everyday Apocalypses," is just stuffed with messy thinking. And I'll admit that some of this is reactive because I engage in such writing. I've published (not on BUFFY but other shows -- though I'm contemplating a paper on the similarities of Xena and Angel, who I think she resembles much more than Buffy) academic pieces on television and am currently working on a book on the rise of heroic women characters on television. Why? Because I'm "stuck in a continuous loop of BUFFY watching?" Well, no. I haven't in fact watched a single episode of BUFFY in two years and perhaps three. But because I am endlessly fascinated with how the portrayal of strong women on television has helped change the way our society thinks about the fundamental feminine virtues. As a single dad I was struck raising my daughter how passionately she reached out for characters she could identify with. For instance, after taking her to her first ever film in a theater, Disney's PETER PAN, she thought that Wendy was the hero of the film. But finding strong female characters for her was tough in the early nineties. There are just so many times you can watch THE JOURNEY OF NATTY GANN and WARRIORS OF THE WIND (the old gutted version of Miyazaki's NAUSICAA OF THE VALLEY OF THE WIND--which bowdlerized or not, contained an endlessly resourceful female as the film's hero).

My point is that people have a wide range of reasons for doing the things they do and I'm pretty confident that they aren't what Allyson Beatrice imagines that they are. So, she projects and sloughs over the myriad reasons that people might write an academic paper on BUFFY. But you simply can't take the reasons why YOU might not be comfortable being the author of such a piece and imagine that it valid analyzing why someone else actually wrote it.

So, this genuinely terrible first chapter really hurt the tone for the rest of the book. I did manage to enjoy much of it. But I never came to love it. I do want to warn potential readers that there is virtually no discussion about any television shows. If you haven't actually seen BUFFY you won't get much of a sense about what it is about from the book. The subtitle is accurate: the book is about fans of shows, not the shows themselves. That isn't to say that there aren't a lot of fun facts about figures attached to these shows. I enjoyed reading about her friendship with Tim Minear, who has been involved with a huge number of shows I love (or might have loved, in the case of DRIVE and THE INSIDE, both killed off way, way too early for my taste). Had she just started off the book by not confusing her subjective reaction to the activity of others with the objective nature of things, I might have liked it a lot more.
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18 of 24 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars Skip this one., November 26, 2007
What started with an interesting premise - internet fandom - fell completely flat. The book isn't about that, it's about how the author has so much time on her hands (one would argue too much), that she can spend all her time online, talking about a tv show. Her writing is lazy - an entire chapter is nothing more than a cut and pasted internet thread. The book's not funny in the least; she seems to be the kind of person that thinks she and her internet friends are hilarious and you just don't get it if you don't agree.

At one point in the book, the author traces her path from internet fan to published writer, making sure to note that she got her contract because of her connections. There's really no need to point that out; it's obvious from the start because this book is awful. It's nothing more than a pat on the back for knowing how to use the internet and a display of how many important people she knows. What's the point?
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