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43 of 48 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
An honest and accurate book about the Phoenix program, October 1, 1999
By A Customer
I'm glad to see someone has finally written an accurate, dispassionate account of the Phoenix program and the Vietnam war. As a Phoenix advisor in late 1967 and 1968, I can say from personal experience that Mr. Moyar gets just about everything right in his account of that period. I can only assume from the extent of his research that the rest of the information is just as correct. His descriptions of the attitudes and motivations of the Vietnamese civilians, government officials and military validate many of my own observations and confirm many of my suspicions. I just wish I had known then what I know now.Reading this book and the reviews about it prompted me to hunt down a copy of Douglas Valentine's book about Phoenix for comparison. I shouldn't have bothered. Clearly Mr. Valentine hasn't heard that old joke about the difference between a fairy tale and a war story. Phoenix and the Birds of Prey does a much better job of presenting the facts. If I have any criticism of Phoenix and the Birds of Prey, it is that I felt Mr. Moyar applied some of his conclusions about the Phoenix program a little too broadly to all participants. Every district operation was different in some ways depending on the tactical situation, the capabilities of the advisor, and the involvement of the Vietnamese counterparts. But I suppose that is to be expected because he is taking a broad look at the overall program. I would recommend this book to anyone who is a serious student of the Vietnam war or guerrilla conflicts in general. It should be required reading for all of our military Special Ops people. I would especially recommend the book to all my fellow Vietnam veterans. As for the anti-war types who have been yelling about the Phoenix program for the last 30 years, they're going to have to find a new horse to ride because that one won't run anymore.
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18 of 18 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Wonderful book, May 6, 1999
By A Customer
I must recommend this book to all readers. As a Vietnamese, I can say that Mr. Mark Moyar understands the Vietnam people and Vietnam war better than most white Americans. Unlike the newsmedia, he appreciates that the Vietnamese are not like white people who just look different. There is a difference of mind. He also knows about Ho Chi Minh and communism and the schemes they used to subvert government in Vietnam. I don't usually like American books about Vietnam, but this one is good.
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19 of 20 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Well-researched and well-argued., October 22, 1998
By A Customer
It is possible to see the beginning of a revisionist school of historical writing on Vietnam. Spector's AFTER TET, Burkitt's STOLEN VALOR, and now PHOENIX AND THE BIRDS OF PREY all represent a point of view that wants to remove the stigma of absolute failure from the U.S. military efforts in Vietnam. Moyar's book is more than a simple defense of the Phoenix/Phung Hoang program; it is a study of intelligence-gathering, pacification programs and their effectiveness against the NVA and the Viet Cong. Moyar concentrates on the post-Tet period which he argues saw increased American and South Vietnamese success in counterinsurgency. He collates interviews, translated captured documents, official statistics, and memoirs for his history and does a pretty fair job of evaluating the material. Moyar criticizes plenty of Americans and Vietnamese, and credits the NVA/VC for excellent motivation, organization and determination. Not all of his arguments are persuasive, but the breadth of his work must be considered by anyone who wants to challenge him. The response by an earlier "reviewer" at this site ("...CIA propaganda...") is enlightening. One of the moral bases of the 1960s political movements was opposition to the war in Vietnam. The antiwar movement cast the U.S. in a villainous role; My Lai, Cambodia, and inflated body counts made that pretty easy. Over the years, evidence of atrocities, the forced collectivization of agriculture in the reunited South Vietnam, corruption in the Communist Party leadership, and grudging admission by NVA leaders of high losses and military mistakes have made some question whether the war was such a stark "good guys v. bad guys" conflict. Of course, questioning the assumption that the U.S. was on the wrong side in Vietnam would seriously weaken the moral arguments of the antiwar leaders. Is the former South Vietnam better off once the U.S. left? If it is, why did so many leave after reunification, and why is the current Vietnamese leadership so eager to welcome American capitalists? On the other hand, if it was important that we took a stand in South Vietnam, why didn't the U.S. push the Diem and Thieu governments into real political and economic reforms? The real study of the Vietnam War can only begin when historians can set aside the need to prove a theory, and can look at what participants really did and why they thought they had to do it.
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