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Web Sites that Work [ILLUSTRATED] (Paperback)

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Yes! The Web design book that many have prayed for is here! Roger Black has rejuvenated many a magazine with his insight into how graphic arts really work. Now he turns his well-toned eye to new media, demonstrating which principles are universal, which simply don't translate well from print, and which allegedly great new ideas should be jettisoned before they do any further harm. Just thumb through this gorgeous book and you'll see that Black knows how to make graphics sing or howl--on a newspaper page or on a 14-inch monitor. Highly recommended.


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Black could have been content to be one of the most successful magazine designers around, but he has increasingly focused his attention on the Web. Here he sums up his insights in chapters such as "Rules That Work"; "What Not To Do on the Web"; "Classic Design"; "Where Am I?"; "Type"; "Writing for the Web"; and "Video on the Web." You'll learn that putting up screen after screen of text is a waste of time because people on the web don't want to read anything. At least that is what Black says. If you have a web site then you need to read this book. Essential for all collections.
Copyright 1997 Reed Business Information, Inc.

Product Details

  • Paperback: 237 pages
  • Publisher: Prentice Hall; illustrated edition edition (March 24, 1997)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 1568303467
  • ISBN-13: 978-1568303468
  • Product Dimensions: 9 x 6.9 x 1 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 1.6 pounds
  • Average Customer Review: 2.9 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (44 customer reviews)
  • Amazon.com Sales Rank: #1,734,069 in Books (See Bestsellers in Books)

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20 of 23 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars I tried, I really tried..., January 20, 2000
By NormC (WA United States) - See all my reviews
I wanted to like this book, but just couldn't bring myself to. Yes, it's beautifully designed and printed, but somehow too beautifully, almost suspiciously so. Yes, its reads like one long ego-trip/advertisement for Mr Black, but that doesn't mean it might not have some useful content. But finally I had to decide that this is a very shallow piece of work. Mr Black, from the evidence presented here, seems to have propelled his web-design career by stating the obvious. Using classic fonts, bold imagery and elegant design to communicate ideas isn't exactly revelatory stuff. Managing your staff in such a way that they talk to each other isn't exactly MBA-worthy, either. Even if we can forgive the self-promotion, I'm not so sure about dressing up a book on simple design principles as some kind of web-design bible, especially as this book is woefully lacking in any technical detail. For what its worth, if you want a good beginners guide to designing for the web, you can do worse than Lynda Weinman and Jacob Neilson. After that, dissect the source code of any sites you particularly admire.
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10 of 11 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars First-year design principles + a lot of hot air, April 24, 2000
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I had a lot of problems with this book beginning with its misleading title. "Web Sites That Work" makes it sound like you can expect some technical information. Not so. There's basically nothing here that actually tells you how to produce a web site that works. There are almost no references to HTML, web-safe colors, CSS, or any other technical aspects of web design. Authored by "ROGER BLACK with Sean Elder", the book is structured like a long softball interview with questions for and quotes from Black & members of his design firm. I found this profoundly irritating; it was distracting and it made the book seem transparently self-serving. As for the content: lots of largely irrelevant glossy photos, not a lot of actual information imparted. If you're looking for a retrospective of Black's career, and lots of pictures of his big pumpkin head, you'll love it. But otherwise there's not a lot here. Black gets around issues like file size & optimization by ignoring them, claiming that everyone will have broadband by the end of 1998 anyway. So he feels free to use big-ass graphics with ludicrous download times to mimic print design. It's 2000 and I don't know about you but I still have a modem. Which may be why I never visit any of the sites that Black designs. And regarding Black's vaunted classic design principles, ANY first year course in design, or basic graphic design text, will teach you everything this book does and more-- and you won't have to swim through Black's heavy egocentric pontification to do it. And how about the design? The book is heavy, expensive, and somewhat pleasing to the eye, but ironically enough it's not designed very well! There's not much organization and a lot of the pictures seem randomly placed on the page. My final judgement: 50% of this book slams everyone else trying to do web design for doing it wrong; 40% of the book lards praise on Black & his lackeys for their approach to design. The other 10% is the useful information that managed to sneak through. I got it on clearance for $2, which is about what it's worth in my estimation. It would be nice if there was a book that taught web programmers about classic design principles-- including how to implement them successfully on the web. But Roger Black's book isn't it.
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7 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars Lots of flash, mostly trash, January 14, 2000
By Naomi Baldwin (Warrensburg, MO) - See all my reviews
Although this book is very pretty with lots of ink, thick pages, and nice graphics, I thought that the information value was very low. All of the information that was worth anything could have fit in a magazine article. This book seems to be a "look how cool Roger Black is" book, and it even has a little section in the back all about Roger Black, in case you didn't catch it from the rest of the book. Roger Black's Web work is very nice, so he has a lot to brag about, but this book should not have been the way to go about it. Although his Web design may work for certain audiences, there's much more to it than this very opinionated (and limited) version. He should stick to magazine design. Don't waste your money. This book is not only over-priced because of the flashy presentation, but it's not even worth the content.
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4.0 out of 5 stars A web site hobbyist gets schooled
I run a website purely as hobby. Having never taken a single graphic design or html course, or read a single book on the subject, I picked up this book at a book wholesaler and... Read more
Published on November 3, 2002 by Steven D. Ward

5.0 out of 5 stars Black knows what's what
If you're passionate about Web design and want to do it right the first time out, then read Roger's book Web Sites That Work. Read more
Published on January 4, 2002 by Bonnie Burton

3.0 out of 5 stars It's ok, but if you want the best get....
It's ok, Roger definetly has some knowledge. The best information comes from Jakob Nielsen, check out his site useit. Read more
Published on September 24, 2001 by Darryl Roberts

3.0 out of 5 stars Not worth the Money
Though a beautiful book, it's not worth the price tag. The book goes through Mr. Black's career as a designer, both for magazines and web pages. Read more
Published on June 21, 2001 by Walt Dittrich Jr.

4.0 out of 5 stars Great web theory
If you are looking to learn how to build a web site, and intuitive and well thought out web site that is user centric, then this book can offer a lot of good information for you... Read more
Published on February 8, 2001 by Bob Hunter

4.0 out of 5 stars I give credit to the title - It made me buy the book
The title was deceiving at first, but it did what it had to do and lead me to reading it.(one of the books teachings) So the title served its purpose whether we took the time to... Read more
Published on June 20, 2000 by Walter Robles

5.0 out of 5 stars Great Standards
Mr. Black raises the standards for great design. Not only on the web or in print but everywhere. It covers the obvious and displays the misterious way in which design gets to be... Read more
Published on March 20, 2000

5.0 out of 5 stars Think twice
When I first read this book, I loved it. However, as I began to learn more about usability and accessibility on the web, I changed my mind. Read more
Published on December 19, 1999 by Louis Bennett

5.0 out of 5 stars Invaluable.
This is without a doubt the best book I have seen on web style. Black distills his vast knowledge and experience down to simple guidelines that never fail. Read more
Published on December 7, 1999 by budmassey

4.0 out of 5 stars Great book on graphical design principles applied to the web
First book I found that really talked about design of web pages from a traditional design point of view. Read more
Published on November 8, 1999 by Simon Connell

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