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by Gerd Ludemann (Author), Frank Schleritt (Contributor), Martina Janssen (Contributor) "The present book subjects all the Jesus traditions from the first two centuries to an analysis and investigates their authenticity..." (more)
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What did Jesus really say?

Between us and the New Testament lie twenty centuries in which people have understood Jesus in quite different ways. The historical-critical research into Jesus...may have become the standard for scholars, but it has hardly been able to command a general consensus. Moreover, the last decade...has experienced a flood of scholarly and popular literature about Jesus. Its source seems to be inexhaustible and it flows in the most varied directions.

Consequently, uninitiated readers get the impression that research is unplanned, full of contradictions, and is going nowhere. This leads them either to sink into resignation or to hold even more firmly to a faith which is above historical questions. Yet neither resignation nor uninformed faith make sense--certainly not in an age which has encouraged an unimagined wealth of knowledge and which at the same time almost daily reminds us of the more modest position of human beings in the cosmos. So it seems...that a historical stocktaking of critical concern with the central person of Christianity, Jesus of Nazareth...is long overdue. -- from the preface

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  • Hardcover: 707 pages
  • Publisher: Prometheus Books (May 2001)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 1573928909
  • ISBN-13: 978-1573928908
  • Product Dimensions: 9.4 x 6.6 x 2.2 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 2.7 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 4.0 out of 5 stars See all reviews (5 customer reviews)
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John the Baptist, New Testament, Old Testament, Gospel of Mark, Fourth Evangelist, Supreme Council, Gospel of Thomas, Synoptic Gospels, Risen One, Mary Magdalene, Simon Peter, Mount of Olives, Gospel of Matthew, Jesus Christ, Fourth Gospel, Gospel of Luke, Nag Hammadi, Two Thousand Years, Joseph of Arimathea, Lord Jesus, Oxyrhynchus Papyrus, Exalted One, First Evangelist, Herod Antipas, Simon of Cyrene
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19 of 21 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Very useful commentary on the ancient gospels, July 23, 2003
By Peter Kirby "petermkirby" (Placentia, CA United States) - See all my reviews
If you liked The Five Gospels, you'll love Jesus After 2000 Years.

Gerd Luedemann is a scholar based in Germany who participated in the Jesus Seminar and recently came out as a non-Christian (explained in his book The Great Deception). Having read five of his books, I must say that "Jesus After 2000 Years" is my favorite and the one that I have found the most useful. It is not more popularizing pablum on the historical Jesus. Rather, it is a critical commentary on the ancient texts: the Gospel of Mark, the Gospel of Matthew, the Gospel of Luke, the Gospel of John (by Frank Schleritt), the Gospel of Thomas, and the Apocryphal Jesus Traditions (by Martina Janssen). As Luedemann says in the preface: "My plan is to offer a new translation of the most important extant traditions about Jesus in the first two centuries and then to investigate their historical credibility, in such a way that educated lay people, too, can follow the argument."

The format of the book is brilliant. Each section begins with a fresh translation of the text; for example, the first is Mark 1.1-8, starting with "Beginning of the Gospel of Jesus Christ." Those portions of the text that apparently belong to the creation of the gospel writer are presented in italic text. Following the translation is a section on "Redaction and tradition." In this section we find commentary on the meaning of the text, such as "This sums up the whole Gospel of Mark, which sets out to be the gospel of Jesus Christ." Finally, there is a section titled "Historical" in which the value of the tradition for reconstructing history is presented, such as, "John the Baptist practised baptism for repentance by the Jordan; by it the sins of those being baptized will be forgiven on the day of judgment, which is imminent." Occasionally there is a section on "Later revision," such as on John chapter 19, "Verse 35 is clearly an addition by the revisers," followed by arguments for that conclusion.

This is not the kind of book that is meant to be read from front to back. As a commentary, it is best used as a reference work whenever you are studying a particular passage in the gospels. This commentary is distinguished by its critical approach and emphasis on the question of historicity.

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5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent Reference Work, June 20, 2005
Gerd Lüdemann's ambitious Jesus After 2000 Years represents an attempt at what Lüdemann describes as a "long overdue" historical stocktaking of the writings about Jesus, including both canonical and non-canonical writings. Lüdemann's expressed aim is to produce a comprehensive work that is accessible to the lay reader, not a life of Jesus, which he says is not currently possible, but an historical analysis of what people said about him later. In this aim he is admirably and thoroughly successful, producing a work of unexcelled usefulness and clarity that should become a well-thumbed entry on the bookshelf of every person interested in New Testament research and writing.

Lüdemann's masterwork covers nearly 700 pages, the standard size in a field where gigantic tomes are the norm. It is broken up into three major sections: a short introduction laying out his historical methodology, a weighty second section that offers a pericope-by-pericope study of the canonical gospels, and a shorter section on the non-canonical gospels. A short final chapter offers a life of Jesus in extremely tentative form. There is no review of the letters of Paul.

The key section of the book is the analysis of the Canonical gospels. Each pericope is presented in a fixed format. First the text of the gospel is presented, with redactional additions from each evangelist printed in italics. Lüdemann then presents a quick verse by verse discussion of the redaction and tradition history, followed by a separate section on historicity. To save space, Lüdemann simply presents his conclusion. For example, on Luke 8:1-3, he writes: "Apart from the names, the historical yield is nil." The reader is left to work out the reason from the information presented on the section in Redaction and Tradition, and in light of Lüdemann's methodological criteria.

Frequently the key information for historicity is presented in the section on Redaction and Tradition. For example, in the section on Luke 8:1-3 Lüdemann states about verse 3: "[3]For Joanna cf. 24:10. Only the information that she was married to Chuza, a steward of Herod, and the name Susanna reflect tradition. The note about well-to-do women in the company of Jesus derives from later times...Luke has projected them back into the time of Jesus."

The usefulness of this approach is immediately obvious. The exegete interested in a quick-and-dirty glance at any passage in the Gospels need only look it up in Lüdemann. Not only will there be discussion of the redaction history and historicity, but frequently Lüdemann provides other information, such as links to the OT, links to other NT writings, or explanations of the literary or theological function of the verse. A veritable information storehouse, Lüdemann will probably never be read in its entirety at a single sitting, but I have found it incredibly enjoyable in small chunks.

Lüdemann's prose style is also a major joy for its ruthless elimination of adornment and rhetoric. The magisterial authoritarianism of a John Meier or the Irish eloquence of a Dom Crossan are nowhere in evidence. Even when utilizing the favorite method of Historical Jesus scholarship, the Declarative Method ("It's true because I say it") Lüdemann is extremely spare: "It is impossible to doubt that the two brothers were followers of Jesus and were fishermen by profession," he says of Mark 1:17. That crusty "It is impossible to doubt" is the limit of his rhetorical invention.

Lüdemann offers a number of seemingly sensible methodological criteria for ferretting out what is historical in these writings. Some of the them, such as multiple attestation, are familiar and need no explication. In a major step forward, he also offers criteria of inauthenticity, making explicit the assumptions of a number of exegetes. These latter criteria include violations of the laws of nature, offerings of solutions to community problems of a later time, and several others. Lüdemann rightly rejects the criteria of plausibility that some exegetes have been drawn to, criticizing it as too woolly.

Unfortunately Lüdemann's own criteria are no improvement. Crossan has dealt effectively with the various criteria that have been proposed, and Lüdemann apparently either missed that discussion or did not take it to heart. His authenticity criteria are vulnerable to the same criticisms that Crossan made; namely, such criteria are subjective, incoherent, and ultimately, just discover their own assumptions.

For example, Lüdemann offers the criterion of rarity, "which relates to those actions and sayings of Jesus that have few parallels in the Jewish sphere. Jesus absolute prohibition against judging (Matt 7.1) is a candidate for this." The critical reader will note several problems. First, how many parallels constitute "few?" Second, what is the "Jewish sphere?" Do we count only those who resided in Palestine? Do sophisticated Hellenized Jews influenced by Stoic philosophies like Philo count? How about the Herodians and their families? Lüdemann gives us no clue in setting boundaries, so ultimately criteria like this lose all meaning. Additionally, the example he gives is a common ideal found in many cultures and contexts, and thus unlikely on the criterion of rarity to go back to Jesus (why limit "rarity" to only the Jewish sphere?). Finally, why should rarity itself be a criterion of historicity, and why should it cover both actions and words? Certainly "rarity" as such would be almost a requirement of fiction (why would anyone want to read about someone who was exactly the same as everyone else?). A much more rigorous and comprehensive discussion of these criteria is necessary to justify both their inclusion and the way they are constructed.

A second and even more serious problem is that where criteria clash Lüdemann offers no way of resolving the problem. For example, in the famous pericope about the Syro-Phoenician women Mark 7:24-30), Jesus terms her a "dog." Ludeman reads this anecdote as deriving from debates in the early Christian community about the role of gentiles, declaring that a historical core is undetectable. Yet, one might well argue that it falls under his criterion of offensiveness (Lüdemann apparently rejects this) in that Jesus behaves immorally in insulting a woman who has come to beg his help.

It goes without saying that Lüdemann, as with all NT HJ scholars, offers no set of criteria to support the idea that there is historical data in the Gospels to begin with. That is simply an unexplored axiom.

There are minor issues. It is unclear why Lüdemann does not discuss the issue of the Cynic parallels to Jesus' sayings. Though there are occasional penetrating analyses of the literary style of the Gospels (for example, he explains that the Trial before the Sanhedrin and the Trial before Pilate are parallel, and thus, the former is a fiction based on the latter), in the main the breaking up of the text into pericopes tends to obscure larger structural features that may indicate their purely literary and fictional origin. Additionally, he does not reach for creation via the Old Testament as often as this reviewer thinks he should, except in the Passion Narrative.

All in all, I highly recommend purchasing the exceptionally useful and informative book. Despite its weak points, which in any case are not so much Lüdemann's as they are faults of all New Testament historical scholarship, this work should be on everyone's NT bookshelf.
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10 of 12 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Cuts through the clutter to the _history_ of Jesus, February 20, 2004
By Peter Stoffel "~Peter" (Charlotte, NC United States) - See all my reviews
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This book was recommended to me from a friend when I mentioned that I understood that different parts of the bible were written at different times, but didn't know what was added by enthusiastic translators/editors.

This book clearly answers that question.

Jesus After 200 Years is a 700 page tome that is a little intimidating when you first get your hands on it. However, the book is broken down into seven manageable chapters (not including the important-to-read introduction). Basically, it starts with the earliest known written gospel, Mark, and works backwards in cronology to Matthew, Luke, and John. Chapter five examines the gospel of Thomas; six looks at Apocryphal Jesus Traditions and the final chapter is a nine page biographical-summary description of the _historical_ life of Jesus -written as though he were an ancient secular historical figure.

Here is what the book so interesting and valuable. For every bible passage the author indicates which portion is true to the earliest known records/version of the bible, and which portion was added/embellished at a later date. Incredibly insightful!

The book is very "readable" because, as the author explains in his preface, he has not cited every source for every little thing, so you are not bombarded by subscripts and superscripts. To quote, "They say nothing to lay people and specialists know them anyway." (There are plenty of authors cited in the book, just not the particular article or book they wrote that he is pulling from.)

As another reviewer mentioned, this is not a book that you read cover-to-cover. Instead, you should read the introduction to all of the chapters and then reference the book when examining certain sections of the bible.

If you have a bible on your bookshelf, you need to have this next to it.

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