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by Gary D'Amato (Author), Cliff Christl (Author)
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  • Paperback: 288 pages
  • Publisher: Prairie Oak Press (August 1997)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 1879483440
  • ISBN-13: 978-1879483446
  • Product Dimensions: 9.1 x 6 x 0.9 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 15.4 ounces
  • Average Customer Review: 4.4 out of 5 stars See all reviews (10 customer reviews)
  • Amazon.com Sales Rank: #1,335,185 in Books (See Bestsellers in Books)

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7 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars A balanced look at the greatest rivalry in sport., October 28, 1998
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Although the authors are Wisconsin sportswriters, this book offers a truly balanced history of the greatest and longest-lasting rivalry in sports. Chapters are arranged creatively, from player profiles to the greatest games. Bear and Packer fans alike will find the treatment even, fair, and complete. Even the dark side of the rivalry is presented, offering a rare behind the scenes look at how the rivalry developed, its personality, and its true characters. The book, however, is sparse on photos. Still, it is a history not only of two teams but two disimilar cities, states, and types of fans and their strained relations. As much a cultural history as one of the greatest stories in sports.
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9 of 10 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Who retired and ran a gas station in International Falls, Mn, December 22, 2001
By TundraVision (o/~ from the Land of Sky Blue Waters o/~) - See all my reviews
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I bought this book for my Dad for Christmas - & I just had to read it before passing it on! I approached it with some trepidation, though, as it is written by "Award-winning Wisconsin sportswriters," and published in Madison, Wisconsin. But the foreward is written by a nice man from the Chicago Tribune and I found the book to be fairly evenly balanced. The style is easily readable - not in chronological order but arranged by interesting topics. For the chronically chronologically-oriented, there is an appended game-by-game synopsis from the first meeting of the Staleys (who soon became Da Bears) and the Packers on November 27, 1921 to the 152nd meeting at the end of the 1996 season. There are many clever turns of phrase - for instance, the rivalry as "uncivil war," or "Once again, Ditka had added insult on top of victory."

These meetings are not just games, they are "events." As the authors tell us, "The Catholic churches in Green Bay recognized in short time what kind of impact the rivalry had on people's lives. By 1928, St. Mary's parish had scheduled a special mass at 5:15 Sunday morning, so fans could catch the early train to Chicago."

Chapter 5 is entitled "Hard-Edged Names in Hard-Nosed Games" and begins: "The seven men to which this chapter is devoted had two things in common. One was that their names didn't roll off the tongue, but rattled around in the mouth and forced their way through the teeth. Hard-edged names, full of consonants and resonance." Names that were uttered in hushed reverential or loud cursing tones at family gatherings. (My family straddles both sides of the Illinois-Wisconsin line so it depends on which part of the family was talking ;-). Names like Nagurski, Nitschke, Butkus and Ditka. The chapter tells inquiring minds "what ever happened to" these guys too.

Bear/Packer "games" are not genteel affairs. Here's a recap of the November 4, 1945 encounter (before mouthgaurds and sturdy helmets.) "Packers halfback Roy McKay suffered a broken nose and had several teeth knocked lose. Halfback Irv Comp suffered a knee injury, and tackle Baby Ray sustained a one-inch cut on his upper lip. Guard Pete Tinsley was thrown out of the game for punching Bears quarterback Sid Luckman, and Goodnight also was sent to the showers for punching Hoptowit. The Bears casualty list included rookie halfback John Morton, who visited the Illinois Masonic Hospital to have a cut under his eye stitched, and, of course, Artoe. With one well-placed elbow, in the final two minutes of the game, Keuper broke Artoe's upper and lower jaws, along with his nose, and knocked out 11 teeth." (p. 68) Now, THAT'S smash-mouth football!

The chapter "Twenty Memorable Games" includes "Prelude to a [Bears] Title" - November 17, 1963; Wrigley Field (yes, we played there for a long time before moving over to Soldier Field - there's a whole other chapter on the playing fields: " Sacred Fields Forever.") "No professional football game in Chicago, before or since, has been more eagerly awaited than was the dramatic 1963 showdown between the two-time defending NFL champion Packers and the grimly determined Bears. Both teams entered the game with 8-1 records, and the winner clearly would have the inside track to the Western Conference championship. Green Bay had won eight straight games since the season-opening, 10-3 defeat to the Bears. Chicago had lost only to San Francisco. The Monday before the game, the Bears placed fifteen hundred standing room tickets on sale. The tickets, priced at $2.50 [no - that's not a typo- that's two dollars and fifty cents!] sold out in forty minutes." (pages 133-134)

And stuff you probably never knew: "As Bears running back Brian Piccolo [remember Brian Piccolo? If not, stop reading this review and rush over to Video/DVD to get a copy of "Brian's Song" - not the recent re-make, but the excellent 1970 version with James Caan & Billy Dee Williams. It puts the lie to the myth "real men don't cry."] "As ... Brian Piccolo lay on his deathbed in June, 1970, his body ravaged by cancer, he asked to see Ed McCaskey, the son-in-law of George Halas and a close family friend. McCaskey had been assigned by Halas to take care of Piccolo's every need. He had been there to support the player and his wife, Joy, many times in those terrible final months. So McCaskey caught the first train from Chicago to New York and went straight to the Sloan-Ketterling Cancer Center. He had steeled himself for the inevitable, but the sight of Piccolo, in horrific pain and gasping for breath, was more than he could bear. "I looked at him and tears burst from my eyes, involuntarily," McCaskey said. "Brian saw that and said, `Don't worry, Big Ed, I'm not afraid of anything - only Nitschke.'" He died that day." (p. 114)

The pictures in this book alone are well worth the price of the book. Sure, more would be better, but they are great just the same. My favorite, the final one, is Coach Ditka wearing his SuperBowl XX championship leather jacket as he "watches from the sidelines during a Bears-Packers game. The Bears won fifteen of twenty games against the Packers during Ditka's stint as head coach from 1982 - 1992."

I could gush on and on about this great book on a great rivalry. But I have to go wrap my Dad's present. So why don't you just buy it and read it all yourself! You betcha I will!

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6 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars when football was football, June 10, 2000
By MARTIN LEBEAU (L'ASSOMPTION, QUEBEC Canada) - See all my reviews
If you want to feel the pure energy of football mudbaths&bloodbaths is definitly a book for you. In this book you gonna read all about the oldest rivalry in sport history,the hate between two teams,the cheap shots,the fans,the coachs and for sure the players.From the first game at Cubs park on november 27 1921 to their last meeting of 96 season at Lambeau field.The players from the oldies and the ones from now gave theirs versions of the story.Curly Lambeau,George Halas,Brett Favre & Erik Kramer to name few of them. Mudbaths&bloodbaths is more than just the story of bears-packers rivalry,this book bring you back to the beginning,when football was football.When the players from each teams can do anything to beat the other team.When the rules book had only two words"jungle law".
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5.0 out of 5 stars FOR ALL FOOTBALL FANS
THIS BOOK IS ABOUT THE RIVALRY OF THE PACKERS AND BEARS. IT CONTAINS MANY STORIES AND INTERVIEWS CONCERNING THE MANY GAMES PLAYED BETWEEN THESE 2 NFL TEAMS. Read more
Published 20 months ago by COOL JEWEL

5.0 out of 5 stars Blood war
If you are a Bears fan or Packers fan this is a must have on your shelves. this book is jam packed with so much history and so many true life stories of the gridiron games... Read more
Published on July 5, 2007 by Alverne Ball

5.0 out of 5 stars Terrific Book
This may be one of the best (and most apt) titles ever for a book. I'm not really a Bear or Packer fan and I loved every page of this book. Read more
Published on January 9, 2007 by Nicholas Ritzmann

5.0 out of 5 stars Rivalry
Plain and simple, this book is about football in its purest form. Forget the 49ers v. Cowboys, Vikings v. Packers, Yankees v. Read more
Published on August 17, 2004 by JMack

3.0 out of 5 stars Great idea. . .falters in places
Bears fans beware: this book takes a somewhat pro-Packer perspective on the greatest rivalry in professional sports. Read more
Published on October 22, 2000 by Matthew Parks

3.0 out of 5 stars Excellent in places.......
I have two major problems with this book. One, its poor structure. What starts off as a thoughtful examination of sports rivalries and some truly informative and exciting writing... Read more
Published on October 9, 2000 by A M Garvey

4.0 out of 5 stars for true fans
This is a great book if you are from Green Bay or Chicago. There are some inside stories that are sure to please the die-hard fan. It is football tradition at its finest
Published on July 30, 1998

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