Thing-Fish [ORIGINAL RECORDING REMASTERED]

Frank Zappa

Product Details

• Audio CD (May 2, 1995)
• Original Release Date: November 1984
• Number of Discs: 2
• Format: Original recording remastered
• Label: Zappa Records
• ASIN: B0000009TB
• Also Available in: Audio CD  |  Audio Cassette  |  Vinyl
• Average Customer Review: 3.5 out of 5 stars See all reviews (39 customer reviews)
• Amazon.com Sales Rank: #12,474 in Music (See Bestsellers in Music)

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Broadway the hard way, indeed. Frank Zappa's mock musical is also one of his most scathing satires, and sure to offend the sensibilities of many who hear it. Those who get past its prickly skin will be pleased to discover an ambitious, hilarious, and catchy look at life and love in the 1980's--with an outlook not so good. Government experimentation on prison inmates leads to the creation of a new race of super beings, The Mammy Nuns, who start their own Broadway musical. Yuppie couple Harry & Rhonda come to the show, unaware that they are more than just part of the audience in this production, and find their own lives under the scrutiny of the Mammy Nun's leader, Thing-Fish, voiced by long-time Zappa cohort Ike Willis. Organized religion, homosexuality, feminism, and racial identity are just some of the subjects Zappa throws onto a groove of tight rock and a sheet of vocal sound. Maybe not one of Zappa's best albums, but certainly one of his most daring. --Andrew Boscardin

Product Description
Japanese reissue of 1984 album, packaged in a deluxe cardboard box. Videoarts. 2002. --This text refers to the Audio CD edition.

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13 of 14 people found the following review helpful:

2.0 out of 5 stars Rehashed material makes it, unfortunately, a bad value, December 21, 2003

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FZ put out a ton of albums, and almost without an exception each of them is an original piece well worth the price. Occasionally, however, FZ followed some musical ideas which failed to produce a product with his usual quality -- Thing-Fish is one of those very very few failed projects. A mock off-off-off Broadway production with some pretty daring racial, sexual, and political themes, FZ imagined a conceptual album much different than Joe's Garage -- and no one will accuse Thing-Fish of being standard fare. However, for whatever reason, Zappa didn't take the time to provide this project with all-original material. Its major shortcoming is that music all-too-often takes a backseat to the "play." This is a 2-disc set with, in total, maybe a little under one disc of original material -- and most of that material is given bad treatment.

A lot of material is borrowed from the following albums: You Are What You Is (3 tracks), Ship Arriving Too Late... (2 tracks), Zoot Allures (3 tracks), Tinsletown Rebellion (1 track).

The first disc is a total waste. The first three numbers are originals -- but PROLOGUE and HARRY AND RHONDA are merely background for dialogue, and THE MAMMY NUNS, frankly, was given much superior treatment as "The Mammy Anthem" on YCDToSA vol.1. THE GALOOT UPDATE is a subpar rehash of "The Blue Light" from Tinsletown Rebellion, and the following track is yet another of the five releases of the mediocre (and excessively long) "The Torture Never Stops" from Zoot Allures.

THAT EVIL PRINCE is an interesting original. Its sounds like an early version of Zappa's beautiful "Amnerika," which was featured on two of his last albums (Civilzation Phaze III and Everything is Healing Nicely). Unfortunately, Ike Willis is monologuing over the whole piece (it does return as WHITE BOY TROUBLES on disc 2). Three, count em three tracks from You Are What You Is follow. CLOWNS ON VELVET is another brilliant original, and unfortunately this is the only version in Zappa's official releases -- an incredible piece yet again rendered almost worthless because its monologued over by Ike Willis. HE'S SO GAY, also original, is featured on several other albums without the dialogue on it.

The second disc is a little better. There some great original material here, left alone in many places by dialogue. BROWN MOSES (this one, and THE EVIL PRINCE, were given better treatment on the YCDToSA series) is a fantastic song, and WIST-FUL WIT A FIST-FULL is probably the only essential track on this album -- a brilliant mock broadway piano number.

Overall, there is really little to offer on this album. Most of the original material was given better treatment on other FZ releases -- what wasn't, like CLOWNS ON VELVET and WIST-FUL WIT A FIST-FULL, simply doesn't warrant the purchase of a double album. As much as I hate to say it about an FZ album, the bad outweighs the good on this one.

This album divides Zappa fans -- you either love it or hate it. In its defense, I will say that there are many Zappa fans who adore this album and stick by it.

7 of 7 people found the following review helpful:

5.0 out of 5 stars How about Harvey Fierstein in the lead role?, March 21, 2006

By	Jerry Call (St. Louis, MO) - See all my reviews (REAL NAME)

"Thing-Fish" is an American classic, right up there with the best of Mark Twain. It is a brilliantly hilarious send-up of Broadway, in all its pretense and creative sterility. Zappa takes the archetypes and stereotypes of American culture, strips them of all their BS, and exposes them for the stupid, silly posturings that they are. "Thing-Fish" is Zappa's acid test for people who claim they can't be offended. It's racist, sexist, homophobic, vulgar . . . to anyone but a true Zappa fan. "Thing-Fish" is a drama, not another collection of songs and guitar solos, so stop taking yourselves so seriously and enjoy it for what it is: fantastic!

6 of 6 people found the following review helpful:

4.0 out of 5 stars Un-creedably Stim-ul-at-nin', July 8, 2002

By	F. J. Khoury (Parsippany, NJ United States) - See all my reviews (REAL NAME)

Whether you think the lyrics to this mock musical are far-fetched, extreme, or whatever, you and I would do well to have the kind of healthy mistrust of Washington as Mr. Zappa displayed here. Today's corporate fat-cats are "Number One" in our government, and you ain't even number two.

OK, so I agree with a lot of Zappa's "snide politics" as he once put it. That certainly hepls me enjoy Thing-Fish.

And now for the music...

The musical instrumentation is sparse. I think Thunes and Wackerman do lay down a nifty bass-drum rhythym, however. And the Synclavier does a good job at setting a dark, foreboding tone to the album overall. But far and away, the main musical thrust is in the VOCALS. The harmonized singing of "severely-tanned individuals" such as Ike Willis, Ray White, Napolean Murphy Brock and Johnny 'Guitar' Watson are the main weapon on this album...and how fantasic it sounds! I'd love to read the musical score that calls for backing vocal lines like "Oom mammy oom, ma-ooom mammy oom" and "Der-der-dup! Der-der-dup!". The double CD is worth the price for the vocals alone...Since I don't own "You Are What You Is" (from whence many of the old songs came), this doesn't bother me so much. And I would say that "The Torchum Never Stops" and "Artificial Rhonda" are both *better* than their "Zoot Allures" counterparts ("The Torture Never Stops" and "Ms. Pinky").

I agree that this is not the place to start listening to the music of Frank Zappa. However, I would say it's essential for the hard-core Zappa fan.