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Product Details

  • Audio CD (March 16, 1994)
  • Original Release Date: June 1967
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Label: San Francisco Sound
  • ASIN: B000000DP9
  • Also Available in: Vinyl
  • Average Customer Review: 4.4 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (80 customer reviews)
  • Amazon.com Sales Rank: #32,870 in Music (See Bestsellers in Music)

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    #27 in  Music > Indie Music > Folk > Folk Rock
    #48 in  Music > Indie Music > Rock > Classic Rock

 
1. Hey Grandma
2. Mr. Blues
3. Fall on You
4. 8:05
5. Come in the Morning
6. Omaha
7. Naked, If I Want To
8. Someday
9. Ain't No Use
10. Sitting by the Window
11. Changes
12. Lazy Me
13. Indifference

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Even one of the most misguided marketing campaigns in history couldn't obscure the sheer brilliance of this San Francisco-based quintet's self-titled 1967 debut. Guitarist Skip Spence was the original Jefferson Airplane's drummer, and lead guitarists Peter Lewis and Jerry Miller, bassist Bob Mosley, and drummer Don Stevenson were seasoned garage-band veterans. Everybody sang, everybody wrote songs, and their musical influences were equally diverse. They favored tight compositions and performances in an era when most groups didn't, so naturally they were the subject of a huge bidding war. To celebrate its triumph, the record label released five singles--and the album--simultaneously. People cried "hype" and not one of 'em hit. The album, however, was a solid seller and remains the rock upon which the group's reputation still rests. The slashing guitars and soaring harmonies of "Omaha" and "Hey Grandma" still snap, crackle, and pop! The sock-it-to-ya soul of "Changes" and the dueling guitars and vocals of "Indifference" still rock. The gentle folk ballad "Fall on You," the delicate "Sitting by the Window," and the country-flavored "8:05" are all strong songs, distinguished by their balance of four-part harmonies and three-guitar power. --Don Waller


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David Fricke of Rolling Stone Magazine Gives it Five Stars! Calling it the Perfect Album in his Rs Library Review from the February 4, 1999 Issue

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236 of 253 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars Don't Buy This Trash!, December 5, 2003
By Gavin B. (St. Louis MO) - See all my reviews
Moby Grape deserves a remastering of this album which is one of the best sets of music to come out of the sixties. This is on a label owned by Matthew Katz, one time Moby Grape manager and owner of much Moby Grape's licensing rights. Katz even owns the name and has locked horns with former members of the use of the name without approval. The retail asking price is outrageous, considering it is a low qaulity CD transfer that sounds like it was transferred from a second or third generation tape. You can get better quality recording of Moby Grape on the internet for free! Katz will continue to exploit Moby Grape name as long as there are people willing to shell out 20 bucks for his garbage.

If bands like Ultimate Spinach and Peanut Butter Conspiracy are significant enough to be accorded remastering, then Moby Grape deserves a well done box set of all of their releases. Don't buy this garbage from Katz's San Franscico Sound label which has all but destroyed the integrity of the original vinyl issue. If Katz can't peddle this overpriced trash, maybe he will relinquish the rights to the Moby Grape albums to the surviving members of the band and they can work to release a proper digitally remastered re-issue of their catalogue. I don't care if they individually release their albums or issue a Moby Grape Box. We've all waiting too long for Mr. Katz to put this great band's music into the hands of someone who will do justice to the Moby Grape legacy.

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38 of 38 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars Mistreated classic, March 26, 2002
The three star rating represents an average: 5 stars for the album itself, and 1 star for this overpriced, underproduced reissue from the San Francisco Sound label.

As other reviews testify, Moby Grape's 1967 debut represents both the band's high-point and an artistic peak of the mid-60s San Francisco scene. Contained in this album's scant 32-minutes are many of the brilliant threads that surfaced in then-contemporary bands (e.g., folk and rock sensibilities, country music sounds, group harmonies and songwriting, etc.), but boiled down to their essence by a keen commercial sensibility. The deftness with which Moby Grape packed their wares into 3-minute songs is impressive to this day, and David Rubinson's stereo production, especially the panning of the multipart harmonies, is breathtaking.

What's disappointing about this particular reissue is San Francisco Sound's combination of premium-price and budget-quality. Not only does this straight-up reproduction offer none of the extras befitting a landmark album such as this, it does so at an absurd list price. Compared to Columbia's 1993 2-CD "Vintage" set, lovingly produced by Sundazed Records' head-honcho Bob Irwin, this reissue appears anemic.

The pedestrian construction of this San Francisco Sound reissue is little surprise: the label is owned by one-time Moby Grape manager, Matthew Katz. The long, strained history between the band and Mr. Katz is well documented (including in the liner notes of "Vintage"), and includes Katz's attempts to keep the band from using the "Moby Grape" name (he apparently owns the copyright), as well as "fake" Moby Grapes that have been sent on tour. Extensive details of Katz's legal wrangling with It's a Beautiful Day, Jefferson Airplane, and others are widely published.

While Moby Grape diehards may pick nits with the "Vintage" compilation, it provides a superb overview of the band's career. It includes the entire debut album (augmented with an unreleased instrumental that wasn't finished in time for the original release), and is filled out with in-studio chatter, mono singles, live tracks, demos, selections from Moby Grape's later albums, a sessionography, photos, interviews and extensive liner notes. Used copies of "Vintage" can be found for the price of this single-disc reissue, and new copies appear to be available from amazon.co.uk. It's a mark of just how good this album is that even San Francisco Sound's lackadaisical reissue can't dim its brilliance.

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60 of 63 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars The greatest could-have-beens of all time?, February 8, 2004
By Robert Moore (Chicago, IL USA) - See all my reviews
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Moby Grape is a band about which one seems to be able to speak only in superlatives: Greatest sixties psychedelic band - One of the Greatest Debut Albums Ever - Most Disappointing Subsequent Career Ever - Most Forgotten Band of the Sixties - Most Mismanaged Band Ever. What they were was stunning. A quintet with drums, bass, and three slashing, dancing lead guitars, Moby Grape was an enormously talented band that managed to blend driving pop, hard rock and roll, folk, blues, and country into some wonderful new concoction. Although the Grateful Dead and the Jefferson Airplane became better known, neither at their best could come anywhere close to Moby Grape's virtuosity, drive, and passion. And neither group ever produced an album anywhere near as good as this great, great debut album.

The album is littered with great songs from beginning to end, and the best ones are incredibly exhilarating with their power, energy, and tight structure. If the Grateful Dead was loose, almost nonchalant with their songs, with long, rambling, unfocused instrumental breaks, Moby Grape worked hard to cut out all nonessentials. My personal favorite Moby Grape song "Fall On You, for instance, clocks in at a manic 2:21. The only question someone can asks after hearing such stellar songs as "Fall On You," "8:05," "Omaha," and "Hey Grandma" is: Why weren't these guys huge? Well, that question and "What happened?"

What happened was a series of problems that perhaps no band could have withstood. The band had legal problems, management problems, creative differences, personal problems, and a horrible relationship with their record company. Although they continued to make albums, some of them not at all bad, they never again reached the incredible heights of their debut. Worst of all, in 1968, one of their singer/songwriter/guitarists, Scott Spence, suffered a mental breakdown (not at all unlike Syd Barrett), and would spend the bulk of the rest of his life (he died in 1999) struggling with mental illness. Another member, Bob Mosley, suddenly joined the Marine Corps. In short, almost nothing went right for the band.

All the bad things that followed cast a bit of a pale on this awesome album. The knowledge that this was as good as it would ever get for the band generates a great sadness in me. Moby Grape should have been one of the great American bands of all time, and for a brief period of time, they actually were. The proof is contained on this album.

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5.0 out of 5 stars A masterpiece of American rock
I don't care who ripped who off - why Moby Grape quickly disentegrated after, this, their first recording - the fact that Skip Spence flipped out. Read more
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5.0 out of 5 stars Will never forget seeing this band live
17 years old, living less than one hundred miles from San Francisco, I had the
oppertunity to see a lot of musicians play at the Fillmore, Winterland, Avalon and other... Read more
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1.0 out of 5 stars Don't Buy This Buy the SUNDAZED Release This Is A Rip Off
This CD was put out in 2007 by Sundazed on a Nice Remaster with Bonus tracks Look for that one don't buy This trash from San Fransico Sound they rip Off The Band. Read more
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3.0 out of 5 stars Unfortunate encroaching numbness
Unfortunately the late 60's San Fran scene, of which Moby Grape is said to be a huge part, has all but become sterile with decades upon decades of derivative watering down,... Read more
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5.0 out of 5 stars Great album!
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1.0 out of 5 stars It's Not Columbia Records fault
Nor does the blame fall on Matthew Katz. After all, he managed Jefferson Airplane also and they did quite well despite his "bad" management. Read more
Published on June 9, 2007 by Robert G. Daugherty

2.0 out of 5 stars Buy Listen my Friends instead
Loved Moby Grape, but this is just way to over priced for a non re-engineered i.e. not digitally done cover of the LP. Read more
Published on June 6, 2007 by David Grenz

5.0 out of 5 stars Great Debut Album
I like this album so much that it don't matter if the manager was crummy to begin with. And from what I heard, the band got their music back anyways. Read more
Published on May 8, 2007 by J. Bush

1.0 out of 5 stars Did not like them then......................
Still don't think much of them now. Many other groups of the 60's just blew these guys away. Dead/Airplane,etc., the Grape just were a big bore. Read more
Published on March 20, 2007 by Victor da la Tnalag

4.0 out of 5 stars Someone has to explain why this is so expensive...
Just makes no sense to me. Yea, the songs on this one great Grape recording are fun to listen to once in a while, but the price is just silly. Read more
Published on February 15, 2007 by Marcus Aurelius

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