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Kaikhosru Sorabji (Composer), Geoffrey Douglas Madge (Performer)
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  • Performer: Geoffrey Douglas Madge
  • Composer: Kaikhosru Sorabji
  • Audio CD (November 23, 1999)
  • SPARS Code: ADD
  • Number of Discs: 5
  • Format: Box set
  • Note on Boxed Sets: During shipping, discs in boxed sets occasionally become dislodged without damage. Please examine and play these discs. If you are not completely satisfied, we'll refund or replace your purchase.
  • Label: Bis
  • ASIN: B00002R15O
  • In-Print Editions: MP3 Download
  • Average Customer Review: 3.7 out of 5 stars See all reviews (18 customer reviews)
  • Amazon.com Sales Rank: #427,735 in Music (See Bestsellers in Music)

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listen  1. Opus clavicembalisticum: Pars Prima: I. Introito 3:17$0.99 Buy Track
listen  2. Opus clavicembalisticum: Pars Prima: II. Preludio-Corale (Nexus)13:33Album Only
listen  3. Opus clavicembalisticum: Pars Prima: III. Fuga I quatuor vocibus12:05Album Only
listen  4. Opus clavicembalisticum: Pars Prima: IV. Fantasia 5:34$0.99 Buy Track
listen  5. Opus clavicembalisticum: Pars Prima: V. Fuga II duplex16:04Album Only


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listen  1. Opus Clavicembalisticum: Pars Altera: VI. Interludium Primum (Thema Cum Xlix Variationibus)45:05Album Only
listen  2. Opus clavicembalisticum: Pars Altera: VII. Cadenza I 5:12$0.99 Buy Track


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listen  1. Opus Clavicembalisticum: Pars Altera: VIII. Fuga Tertia Triplex: Dux Primus10:22Album Only
listen  2. Opus Clavicembalisticum: Pars Altera: VIII. Fuga Tertia Triplex: Dux Alter11:00Album Only
listen  3. Opus Clavicembalisticum: Pars Altera: VIII. Fuga Tertia Triplex: Dux Tertius12:32Album Only


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listen  1. Opus clavicembalisticum: Pars Tertia: IX. Interludium alterum: Toccata 5:50$0.99 Buy Track
listen  2. Opus clavicembalisticum: Pars Tertia: IX. Interludium alterum: Adagio16:25Album Only
listen  3. Opus Clavicembalisticum: Pars Tertia: IX. Interludium Alterum: Passacaglia Cum Lxxxi Variationibus35:22Album Only
listen  4. Opus clavicembalisticum: Pars Tertia: X. Cadenza II 3:28$0.99 Buy Track


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listen  1. Opus clavicembalisticum: Pars Tertia: XI. Fuga IV quadruplex: Dux primus 8:33$0.99 Buy Track
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listen  3. Opus clavicembalisticum: Pars Tertia: XI. Fuga IV quadruplex: Dux tertius 7:23$0.99 Buy Track
listen  4. Opus clavicembalisticum: Pars Tertia: XI. Fuga IV quadruplex: Dux quartus 9:56$0.99 Buy Track
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On this CD:
  1. Opus Clavicembalisticum, for piano
    Composed by Kaikhosru Sorabji
    with Geoffrey Douglas Madge


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32 of 38 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Opus Clavicembalisticum is an important, but not great, work, June 11, 2000
By Mark S. Carpenter (Austin, TX USA) - See all my reviews
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First -- what I'm about to say in no way takes anything away from Madge's performance of this piece. Madge's performance is far, FAR better than John Ogden's; and Madge seems to have captured the real essence of this piece in a way Ogden never could have. This performance represents a tremendous accomplishment for Mr. Madge. If you're going to buy a performance of the Opus Clavicembalisticum, the Madge performance is the one you should buy.

About the music: I have a feeling I'm going to upset some die-hard Sorabji enthusiasts with my comments, but I'll call this like I see it.

To be honest: for the amount of thematic material presented, and the way Sorabji uses it, I think this piece is about ten movements too long. Opus Clavicembalisticum reminds me of compositions by pianistic "whiz kids" -- 17 and 18 year olds taking composition in their first year of college, who have the technique to play anything they want, and who don't hesitate to write the most daunting technical difficulties into their music -- but simply don't have the maturity to organize a large scale piece or to frame the musicality behind what it is they're writing! (I'm guilty of having done the same thing, too, when I attended the Indiana University School of Music 28 years ago.)

Sorabji certainly knows how to write "huge," but the material in this piece just doesn't warrant a four-hour composition. While listening to all the counterpoint, all the variations, all the extremes of register -- I found myself really aching to hear one good, cohesive slow movement! The lone "Adagio" wasn't REALLY an "Adagio."

There are 20th century composers whom I play, and whom I program regularly in my own recitals, who can write on very large scales - yet manage keep their musical thoughts organized. I think of Messiaen, Busoni, Hindemith -- even Shostakovich (if we consider the 24 Preludes and Fugues, op. 87). These composers are able to take their ideas and develop them -- and most importantly, to CONTRAST their ideas as they develop them.

In the Opus Clavicembalisticum, Sorabji ends up with a dulling sameness -- which, unfortunately, lasts nearly four hours. Frankly, if I were going to play a Sorabji piece, I'd probably program a smaller-scale piece such as La Jardin Parfume.

Sorabji believed the Opus Clavicembalisticum to be one of the greatest, if not the greatest, pieces of all time. It's an important piece -- if anything, just to study his techniques. For all its complexity, is not great music. It is absolutely not in the same league with Bach's "Goldberg Variations", Beethoven's "Diabelli Variations" or the "Hammerklavier" sonata, Brahms' "Handel" or "Paganini" Variations, any Ravel work, the Busoni "Fantasia Contrapuntistica" or Hindemith's "Ludus Tonalis".

If you want to hear a wonderful performance of this piece, get the Madge. If you want to hear a piece LIKE this, composed by a real master, consider purchasing Messiaen's "Nativity of the Savior."

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20 of 23 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars Poor Performance of a Great Work, March 11, 2003
The Sorabji Opus Clavicembalum is beyond me in terms of review. Like other monumental works it seems to exist in it's own plane, above my own petty likes and dislikes, rather like the Bach Art of the Fugue or the work of Ravi Shankar. Suffice it to say that Sorabji's nearly 4 hour work is dense, fierce in it's extremes, crowded with detail, exacting in it's counterpoint and almost crazy in it's intensity. Written in a style that takes Busoni, Szymanowski and Scriabin as a starting point, Sorabji squeezes these influences through a distorting prism to create a torrent of sound unlike any other. I can't say whether I like it or not...and I'm not sure that it matters, anymore than it matters whether I like the Rocky Mountains or not.

What I can comment on definatively is the performance. Sorabji is the Holy Grail of 20th century pianism. No other composer, before or after is as complex, dense or as demanding. (Not even Michael Finnessey who comes close.) Merely to play this piece in public is an act of enormous courage...or enormous hubris. So I respect the attempt of anyone to try.

In the current instance, BIS chose to record Madge in a live recital in Chicago, playing the OC in one program. The undertaking is heroic, but there are major problems with the results. Particularly on the first disc, Madge seems to have trouble with the material. There are many obvious flubbed notes and poorly executed passages. Though these mistakes subside as the work continues, they are present throughout the performance. As a result, many passages lack the power that they should have to make them come across in performance. Even passages that are clean tend to sound tenative...as if we can hear Madge praying not to make another mistake.

I am not sure that it is possible to play this music with complete accuracy in concert...so my complaints may not really lie with Madge. But BIS should at the least have done some post-production work on these notes. I know that this is difficult to do with live performances but it is not impossible. Perhaps BIS could have rented out the hall afterwards, without an audience and done the retakes needed to clean up the performance. (If anyone here believes that most classical studio performances are done in one take and clean...you haven't been in the studio.) Alternatively, with this music it would have been better to release a studio album. Though most listeners at a performance can forgive mistakes...and should up to a point, on a disc it is something else entirely.

All this being said, I still think that a serious music lover should know this work....particularly if you like Scriabin, or Busoni. The only other competition is John Ogden's set, which is harder to find. I have yet to hear this one, but will probably try to track it down. The work deserves to be heard in a really good performances.

Three Stars for the performance - the work it self is beyond praise or condemnation.

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2.0 out of 5 stars Ignore Magde's claque, go with Ogdon!, May 29, 2006
There is certainly a striking disparity among the reviews posted - praise from, for example, an admitted associate of Madge, and slanderous, disgraceful, utterly contemptible condemnation of Ogdon ("awash in anti-psychotic medication"? "not one brain cell working"? - the person who wrote this is a pig). I can only say that, having known the piece first from Madge's recording, and having recently acquired the Ogdon, there is no comparison. Ogdon makes music - and great, astonishing music - where Madge produces endless streams of uncharacterised, undifferentiated note-spinning. The fugues, in particular, are utterly mechanical and apparently devoid of any comprehension in Madge's reading. To be sure, he certainly deserves credit for tackling the work, but one wonders why he released this recording - and why he tolerates, if he does, the blatantly offensive, disgusting claquery of his supporters.
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5.0 out of 5 stars S.M.S 's defamation
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