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  • Audio CD (February 12, 2002)
  • Original Release Date: 1977
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Format: Original recording remastered, Extra tracks
  • Label: Sony
  • ASIN: B00005Y1M3
  • In-Print Editions: MP3 Download
  • Average Customer Review: 4.4 out of 5 stars See all reviews (40 customer reviews)
  • Amazon.com Sales Rank: #11,068 in Music (See Bestsellers in Music)

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4.0 out of 5 stars The One that Started and Ended it All, November 27, 2002
By Snow Leopard (Urbana, IL) - See all my reviews
This, the most successful of Kansas' releases (yes, the one with "Dust in the Wind"), marked the beginning of the end of the band for me. One notes from the number of songs, relative to earlier albums, that shorter forms are becoming prevalent, and shorter forms from a prog rock band in the mid-70s meant, in practice, a swerve toward pop. Not even Yes was immune to this tendency.

As "pop" goes, this is surely some of my favorite, but I didn't get into Kansas (I realized later) for the pop. "Point of Know Return" introduced me (like many others) to the band, but as I worked backward into their earlier music, I found that it was on "Masque", "Song for America" and "Leftoverture" that their music most spoke to me.

"Point of Know Return" (despite the kitsch of the title) is the kind of pop one could live with on the radio. "Paradox", as the sibling of "Point of Know Return", shows truly what a happy marriage of prog and pop Kansas could concoct. As a keyboardist myself, Walsh's "Spider" is a marvelously intricate thing, though much too short. "Portrait" (an homage to Einstein that I formerly mistook as an homage to Jesus) falls a bit flat on the album, but makes up for it 200-fold on "Two for the Show," where it is simply stunning. Side One (I date myself) ends with "Closet Chronicles", another of the compositional high points of Kerry Livgren's (and Walsh's) career. (It wasn't until years later that I found out this song is an homage to Howard Hughes.)

Side Two opens with "Dust in the Wind"--originally a finger exercise piece that Kerry Livgren added lyrics too. There then follow two very unhappy monsters--both "Lightning's Hand" and "Sparks of the Tempest" fell flat for me, then and now. This was worrisome because previously all of the Kansas songs I'd not been fond of had been their more straightforward rockers. Here, we have two songs obviously in the prog-pop vein falling on their faces. Luckily, the album ends with two more genuine masterpieces, but that makes, in all, only three songs on the album I really want to listen to.

Any Kansas playlist of their songs that genuinely expanded the compositional possibilities of rock (and it is in precisely this aspect that Kansas is most progressive) must contain "Hopelessly Human", "Nobody's Home", and "Closet Chronicles"--they are must hear, or must have, songs for anyone interested in pre-decline Kansas. The rest of the album, however, while superbly performed, as ever, just doesn't have the creative spark that earlier albums did.

In high school, I would become nervous when a band I liked brought out a live album, because it often seemed to be a sign that the band couldn't come up with new material, or that a major change of direction was in the works. Kansas toured "Point of Know Return" extensively, and released a live album to document that. Two noble studio efforts followed, after which the decline became the collapse, and the Kansas I'd become a fan of ceased to be. "Point of Know Return," then, marks the beginning of the end; something that can be heard clearly in the music, especially if you know their earlier stuff.

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4.0 out of 5 stars 70's Prog Rock, February 26, 2002
Kansas was another in a line of 70's rock artists from the Midwest who enjoyed some chart success in the mid-70's to early 80's. But they had more in common with prog rockers like Yes, King Crimson and the others than with the earnest rock of Bob Seger and the like. Point Of No Return is the top album in their catalog and contains one of the staples of FM rock radio, the hauntingly beautiful "Dust In The Wind". But this album is more than a one-hit wonder. The title track opens the album with it's pulsating keyboards and other standout tracks include the Albert Einstein tribute, "Portrait (He Knew)", the Orwellian "Sparks Of The Tempest", another ballad "Nobody's Home", "The Spider" and the album's closer "Hopelessly Human". The album is remastered with two live tracks that are alright, but don't add much to the original album.
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5 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Better than I thought it would be, June 18, 2002
By BENJAMIN MILER (Eugene, OR United States) - See all my reviews
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As a 16 year old back in 1989, I was getting in to prog rock, while others my age were either listening to Bon Jovi and Poison, or worse, New Kids on the Block. As I was getting in to Yes and ELP, I dismissed Kansas as yet another AOR band, like Boston, Journey, Styx, Foreigner, etc. Boy was I wrong. Kansas was a prog rock band that came from a very conservative area of the country (the state, which bears the band's name). Since there were no "hip" clubs for the band to play in their neck of the woods at that time, they had to perform in bars, so the bar-band influence of their music is strongly felt, while adding the Yes and ELP-style prog rock. I wouldn't call Point of Know Return their best album (that probably goes to Song For America), it was without a doubt their best-selling album. The title track and "Dust in the Wind" receiving constant radio airplay, and those two songs, of course, are regarded not only as classics, but FM radio standards. Although "Dust in the Wind" often gets on people's list of "Worst Songs of the Seventies" (along with "Seasons in the Sun", "Billy, Don't Be a Hero", and Blue Swede's version of "Hooked on a Feeling"), it really isn't all that bad. The band was able to manage some great prog rock, albeit, with a uniquely American flavor. Violinst Robbie Steinhart might be classically trained, but you can tell he was also influenced by Southern-style fiddling. Steve Walsh's vocals are uniquely American, and the Yes comparison often comes from the vocal harmonies. Kerry Livgren's keyboarding inspiration comes from some of the big prog names like Emerson and Wakeman. Aside from the obvious hits, let's bring up a few of the other songs on this album. "The Spider" is a great instrumental prog song that bears an uncanny resemblance to ELP's Tarkus. "Sparks of the Tempest" is the band trying to be funky (like they did on "Two Cents Worth" off Masque). "Paradox" is simply a great rocking track in a traditional Kansas style, would have fit just fine on any of their previous four albums. The only reason why I took a star off is the last two songs, "Nobody's Home" and "Hopelessly Human", which I felt the band slacked off on those two, but it's still a great album, and easy to see how this album sold so well.
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1.0 out of 5 stars Classic but different
I love the first song - Point of No Return - but was disappointed that all the other songs are completely different and off the beaten track. Read more
Published 2 months ago by Classic Rock

4.0 out of 5 stars not as good as previous albums, but good enough
Something is not quite right with Point of Know Return. The band knew they had become such a huge hit with Leftoverture, but they either didn't have enough songwriting ideas for... Read more
Published 4 months ago by B. E Jackson

5.0 out of 5 stars The land of ahhs
This is one of several great works by a very unique band from the great central plains, the heart of America.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Never to Return
It doesn't get much better than this!!! Consistency, great musicianship, good pop sensibilities - mixed just right!!! Read more
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5.0 out of 5 stars How Long?
Kansas is great progressive rock. I think this is their greatest album. After "Leftoverture" they really made their way through. Read more
Published 10 months ago by Reijo Piippula

5.0 out of 5 stars All-around excellent album
Brilliant songwriting, masterful vocals, and stirring instrumentals - what more could one want out of one album? This type of rock 'n' roll merits the designation "art". Read more
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5.0 out of 5 stars Kansas' second consecutive best seller is still a classic 30 years on
Kansas bred progressive rockers Kansas' fifth album entitled Point of Know Return was released in September of 1977. Read more
Published 14 months ago by Terrence J. Reardon

5.0 out of 5 stars KANSAS's Peak - Musically, and Popularity
KANSAS - Point of Know Return (1977) (*****) 12 tracks - (54:37)

The boys from Topeka did not slow down a bit after the breakthrough success of Leftoverture. Read more
Published 15 months ago by Richard Thompson

5.0 out of 5 stars Always Interesting
Great cover, Great CD. Not a fan of remasters. Give me the original everytime. This album and Lefoverture are must have Kansas albums. I like all of their stuff. Read more
Published 16 months ago by G Money

5.0 out of 5 stars (4.5 stars) PROGRESSIVE ROCK THAT ROCKS ! (Point Of Know Return is a Kansas classic)
Point Of Know Return (1977) was Kansas' follow-up to their hugely sucessful Leftoverature album, and it's just as good, if not better, than it's predecessor. Read more
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