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4.0 out of 5 stars
decent, February 24, 2008
I give it 4.5, which is the best of the dvds I've watched so far, there is an online video I'd put at 5 and this falls slightly short of that.
I rented this from the library along with two other videos and I'm watching the video as we speak. The moves they do are very nice, but most things they do they don't explain technically. They do count everything out and call out things like 'back break' or 'copa' and explain how to keep tension with certain combinations, but rarely explain how to perform the turns. So you'll get a very good idea of what you should be doing on each count, but if you don't know how to lead the turn with your hands it may come out wrong. While I am intermediate/advanced and can pick it up, a beginner or early intermediate student would struggle. They also don't explain much of their styling, but you can just copy what you see to get that. It is possible they cover some of the technique in the beginner and intermediate DVDs, which I have not found to rent yet. They do a lot of 4 finger leading - with a lot of thumb use - as opposed to two finger -no thumb ever- which I'm used (and learned in an 'NY style' studio) to or the one finger with a occasional thumb use that Adolfo (the only NY dancer I know personally at all) has taught in a workshop I took so between that and his count I'm not sure it's true ny style either - if it is then what I've learned is not true NY style.
What I do like, is how on a few occasions they show different variations you can do to style it differently, as well as the breakdown of the timing as mentioned above.
Three other notes. First, I don't have much experience dancing on two, but I saw that someone else claimed he's dancing on two in the intermediate DVD review and I don't think I agree (unless he changed it for this DVD which seems unlikely). My understanding of on two is that it's back on the right (on 1), back on the left, in place on the right, pause on 4, forward left, forward right, in place left, pause on 8 (in some places - puerto rico I think - they reverse the two measures and the guys leads going forward on his left). What it looks to me like he is doing is on one footwork, but counting very different. what I would call 1-2-3 he calls 6-7-8 and what I would call 5-6-7 is 2-3-4. I tried listening to the music during his demo and I can't hear the beat very well, but it sounds like he is dancing on the counts he is speaking so it's kinda like on 1 with the man leading backwards starting on the second beat. I'm not familiar with that style, but who cares, it looks good and I can adapt the video to either on 1 without changing anything or to the way I understand on 2 with a small amount of work.
Second note, it did not work on the DVD player in either of my computers and I ended up playing it on the Xbox. Just something to keep in mind if you're looking to buy it. May want to rent this or another part of the series to try it out first so you don't waste money on a DVD your hardware/software doesn't support.
Third, his combinations are very long so I would recommend breaking them up more yourself for social dancing as I know there is no way I'm going to remember such long patterns in whole and I'd hate to get half way and screw up because I can't remember what comes next.
To put it as simply as possible.... if you are a beginner or early intermediate, go through his explanations of timing with a partner keeping in mind that his count is a little different and you'll need to adapt. You may need some help at first, but it's easy once you get the hang of it. What you will need is someone to explain how to lead some of the turns in a technically correct manner if you are unfamiliar with them. Just mimcking is not always enough for technique, being a little off can really hurt the girl's shoulders (I'm sure you all know at least one guy where the girls are always rubbing and stretching there shoulders after a dance with him - he leads wrong, regardless of how he looks you don't want to be that guy or dance with him)
If you are middle of the road intermediate or above, you may not even need the explanations he gives as you can probably pick it up just by watching the demo closely.
Hope that helps, and hopefully someone else can clear up his counting technique since it seems very different to me and not a true on 1 or on 2 as I have learned them. He is the only person I've seen count this way.
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edit, I asked an instructor, and from my explaination of his count, they think it may be an on 2 ballroom form of mambo
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4.0 out of 5 stars
basic Advanced social DVD video but very good, July 6, 2002
This is a basic Advanced social DVD video. This DVD video again follows the same pattern as their other DVD's & videos. The steps are easy to learn. The steps in this DVD video could be learned by any level dancer due to the teaching style. This DVD video combines some traditional steps with some modern NY Style steps. A very smooth flowing Salsa with no breaks or stops between the moves. One step flows effortlessly into the next. With this DVD video you end up with some very nice flowing Salsa combinations. They offer options on several of the steps. This DVD video is full of some fairly common moves. They show both Men's & Ladies styling for the moves. Overall the three Salsa DVD videos produce a very nice easy to learn flowing Salsa. I like & use this style. The teaching in these videos is also good for those practicing without partners as the steps are broken down into Male & Female parts very clearly. These DVD videos teach all the standard techniques you need for basic social Salsa. These videos are also a great series for the person who is just starting to learn by DVD video.
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0 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
This is SALSA!, March 26, 2003
Best instructional video on the market! Ron and Betahana are just great!
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