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Gliere: Symphony No. 3, Op. 42 "Ilya Murometz"

Reinhold Gliere (Artist), Leon Botstein (Artist), London Symphony Orchestra (Artist)
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  • Audio CD (January 28, 2003)
  • SPARS Code: DDD
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Label: Telarc
  • ASIN: B00007GZAT
  • Average Customer Review: 3.3 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (7 customer reviews)
  • Amazon.com Sales Rank: #184,315 in Music (See Bestsellers in Music)

1. I. Wandering Pilgrims: Il'ya Murometz And Svyatogor
2. II. Il'ya Murometz And Solovei The Brigand
3. III. At The Court Of Vladimir The Mighty Sun
4. IV. The Heroic Deeds And Petrification Of Il'ya Murometz

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  1. Symphony No. 3 in B minor ("Il'ya Muromets"), Op. 42
    Composed by Reyngol'd Moritsevich Gliere
    Performed by London Symphony Orchestra
    Conducted by Leon Botstein


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This flamingly multicolored, unashamedly grand-scaled symphony receives a performance here so sonically beautiful that it's practically visible. The work is programmatic and tells of the heroic deeds of a medieval knight-strongman, (translated as) "Il 'ya from the town of Murom." Given the orchestration--quadruple woodwinds, four trumpets, eight horns, four trombones, tuba, timpani, percussion, two harps, celeste, and strings--he comes across as a combination of Superman, Batman, Robin Hood, and Wagner's Siegfried. Leon Botstein brings out great warmth in the London Symphony's string section, the flute bird-curlicues in the second movement are luscious, and, in general, his leadership has nice forward propulsion in a work that can easily sound bloated. If this sort of huge, Romantic palette is your cup of tea--and it is sort of irresistible--then look no further. This realization is ravishing, and Telarc's sound is an audiophile's dream. --Robert Levine

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41 of 49 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars A total, unmitigated disaster from every point of view!, March 10, 2003
I have known this work in score (all 413 pages of it) for nearly 50 years now - and have been attentive to every recording that has surfaced. Some performances cut the guts out of the piece making a mockery of Gliere's carefully crafted architecture. Others come close to the mark. The only recording to follow GLIERE's markings accurately is still available and is conducted by Harold Farberman. The only recording which, if not entirely accurate tempo-wise, is sonically quite spectacular, and that is Sir Edward Downes'.

The present recording is a colossal disaster from every perspective. When a recording announces itself as being "complete and uncut" and yet, in this case, has a performance time of 72 minutes, you know something is terribly wrong. I was antipating a solid performance from Leon Botstein, and spectacular sonics from Telarc. Neither is the case. Telarc's engineers have totally missed the boat on this recording: The LSO sounds like it was recorded in a Turkish bath house, the acoustics are so terrible. There is no definition, no balance, everything sounds muffled and totally out of kilter. This is astonishing given Telarc's past record of superlative orchestral recording.

The LSO plays at its usual high level - but is totally sabatoged by Botstein's absolute dismissal of Gliere's tempo markings, either specifically or conceptually. The architecture of the four movements of this work are very carefully constructed - such that the first, second and fourth movements each have performing times between 27 and 28 minutes: yet Botstein manages the first in 22 minutes, the second in 20! and the last movement in 22. Botstein's tempi in the first movement are often not even in the same universe as Gliere's - i.e. the all important bits of liturgical chant at Rehearsal #8 are completely wrong, first measure to last. The materials given here are critical to the rest of the piece and are blown away as if they were a bit of meaningless trivia. The fourth movement, for example, begins in a "slower" tempo, progress through a series of accelerating tempi and then arrives at allegro - but is, rather, played at the arriving tempo - you know the conductor either does not know the score, or has totally misread it. The second movement builds entirely out of the "creepy" sul ponticello augmented triad blurr with which it opens - and the progression is supposed to be very, very slow. Gliere gives only one tempo marking for the movement: quarter=54. There are no accelerandi marked anywhere in the movement, and only one very brief retardando. Many of the complex figures are unplayable if the tempo is too fast - the result here is a hideous kind of sloppy rhythmic hyperventilation, not the orgasmic agitation which is, in fact, what is in the score. Here, it is all matter of fact without any feel for the "geist" of the music. The third movement lacks clarity and projection altogether. It is unlistenable. The long peroration at the end of the fourth movement, itself a very ingenious recapitulation, al roverso, of the materials that preceded it, is meaningless when it happens too soon. (See "accelerando" above). For all these (and many other reasons) I would have hoped that Mr Botstein, who is also known as a musicologist, would have paid more attention to the score. Certainly, he could have followed Gliere's markings "more closely." That he did not gives us this egregious bit of interperative charlatanism. The power of this music is fully revealed in that most fundamental of musical attributes: time. The piece works because things happen "at the right time" as much as a result of "what" happens. Gliere knows his business - and it is totally indefensible to tell the composer "you didn't write the correct tempi" in your score. Such arrogance! Such chutzpah!

Avoid this recording like the plague. It is absolutely, totally wrong and negates, at virtually every point, everything that's in the score.

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14 of 18 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars Playing 9/10, recording 7/10, musical interpretation 2/10, March 23, 2003
By Jackie Bushell "GoodDietGoodHealth.com" (Oxfordshire, United Kingdom) - See all my reviews
At last a superbly recorded version of this great epic in the full version with no cuts. The playing of the LSO is technically little short of perfect, but I'm reminded of the old days of 78 rpm records, where conductors had to choose a faster speed to get a piece to fit. This seems to be what Botstein has done to meet the 80 minute CD limit. To my taste (and I have listened to all the Gliere 3 recordings) the vast epic canvas has been spoiled, with many of Gliere's metronome marks ignored. The mystery of the forest music in movement 2 is glossed over and becomes a canter - how can it be possible for Botstein to romp through in 20:14 while Farberman takes a correctly spacious 28:33?

So if you are looking for a recording of this piece:
- for the full version at the correct tempi, choose Farberman with the Royal Philharmonic, on 2 CDs
- for technical excitement, but few spine chills, go for LSO with Botstein
- for a good compromise, get the BBC Philharmonic with Downes
- as an excellent introduction, see if you can find a record of the Philadelphia Orchestra with Ormandy - cut to only 65 minutes, but all the best music.

For further info about Gliere and his Third Symphony, see my website (type 'gliere' into Google and look for clarihorn).

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11 of 14 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars Not among the best, March 10, 2003
By AA5L (Fort Worth, Texas USA) - See all my reviews
I was eagerly anticipating hearing this, but I am disappointed by it. The primary flaw is that the tempos are just too fast, losing the sonorous, spacious quality that it requires. It is amazing how much difference it makes when the second movement is performed in 20:14 rather than 21:33 as it is on the Downes/BBC recording (the best one available); it sounds as if there is much more difference than that. It is well played, but not terribly transparent and feels extremely rushed. I feel that the very best tempos are found on the old (1952) Scherchen recording on Westminster, although the performance isn't perfect (in 1952, essentially a live performance!). I would love to see it released on CD, although it's highly unlikely. The Downes/BBC version is rather slow in places, but it certainly is played extremely well and the recording sounds terrific. I think it is considerably better than this one.
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