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by David Weber (Author), Steve White (Author)
3.2 out of 5 stars See all reviews (60 customer reviews)

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From Publishers Weekly
Fans of space opera who have been eagerly awaiting this sequel to Weber and White's In Death Ground (1997) won't be disappointed, to put it mildly. Humanity and its various allies find themselves under attack by an enemy with whom no communication, let alone coexistence, is possible, since their foes lack individual sentience and are driven by a Darwinian imperative to regard all other life forms as food sources. Countered against this nightmare are an assortment of diverse species, some unknown to one another, who share the ability to make moral choices, "including the ultimate choice of sacrificing that very individual consciousness in the name of what all of us recognize, in one form or another, for what it is: honor." This capacity is stretched when it is discovered that, in this war, genocide is a tactical weapon. The authors have created a fictional reality with all of the verisimilitude of a technothriller, but this doesn't credit them enough, since unlike, say, Tom Clancy, they have had to create their own weapons, tactics and even societies. Characterizations are strong and vivid, particularly the Human and Orion command team that spearheads the fight and a fighter pilot who's haunted by the ghosts of her dead. Ultimately, Weber and White have written an exposition, in the form of a novel, of Heinlein's axiom that "ethics are a survival mechanism," leaving the reader both exhilarated and enriched. (Feb.)Alternative (Forecasts, Nov. 19).

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In the 24th century, the Grand Alliance, made up of four sentient, allied races, finds itself on the losing end of the ongoing war against the Bugs, a hostile race of spacefaring, alien carnivores intent on conquest. In desperate straits, the warriors of the Alliance muster a last-ditch effort to destroy their enemy once and for all regardless of the cost. Coauthors Weber ("Honor Harrington" series) and White (Eagle Against the Stars) excel at large-scale military sf, combining intense scenes of interstellar battle with compelling portraits of men and women locked in interminable war. Along with its series predecessors Insurrection, Crusade, and In Death Ground, this title belongs in most collections.
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Product Details

  • Hardcover: 688 pages
  • Publisher: Baen; Stated First Edition edition (February 5, 2002)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0671318489
  • ISBN-13: 978-0671318482
  • Product Dimensions: 9.6 x 6.4 x 2 inches
  • Shipping Weight: 2.2 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)
  • Average Customer Review: 3.2 out of 5 stars See all reviews (60 customer reviews)
  • Amazon.com Sales Rank: #929,808 in Books (See Bestsellers in Books)

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26 of 26 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars Good but not quite as powerful as "In Death Ground", February 7, 2002
By J. Chang "eva05" (Milltown, NJ USA) - See all my reviews
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In Death Ground, the prequel to this story, was one of the best space opera shoot'em ups I ever read. Lots of detailed battles with massive tons of spacecraft being demolished in the process...then spending time inside of the survivor's heads. The battles were described in such forensic detail, that I felt like it was the Saving Private Ryan of space opera books in many ways.

Many years later there comes the sequel. Right off the bat, IDG was going to be a hard one to follow up. Does it succeed? Yes and no.

The story reads more like an assessment of the war from the command seat rather than the cockpit. There's lots of detail leading up to every battle(about the ships, the strategies and the characters) but none of the fighting itself really exceeds 2-3 pages as opposed to IDG where battles could last 20-30 pages before cutting away to something else.

This is a long book and for it's length I was surprised by the lack of detail in the space battle scenes that I've really grown to love Weber for. There's some great stuff in this book and some good dialogue, though Weber/White can't resist using a few of hero "one liners" here and there.

Overall I recommend it but don't expect another IDG. In some ways that's good...why bother to write the same book again? But in the same token, they have diluted what was so great about the earlier book a bit too much for my liking.

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6 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Stepping on the Bugs, March 3, 2002
By David Seeber (Virginia) - See all my reviews
The last book ended leaving you hanging. The Bugs had been stopped, but were still a mysterious and lethal prescence. This book picks up with the delayed Zephrain offensive, and it never stops moving. It's harder core science than a lot of sci fi books, almost the Larry Niven style, though not as grounded in today's physics as Niven is. The war is not going to be easy, and the Alliance knows this, but it begins as did the Russian Campaign after Stalingrad: On the attack. This is a great book. The people are well-defined. The new allies are interesting. The loose ends are tied up.
The battle scenes are always good, and the Bugs have retained their nasty tendency to spring traps. Weber continues his practice of letting you really like a character, who then dies in the war. Moreover, it's not an especially 'heroic' death, it's just...death. Like real life. No final speeches, no gasped last words.
The book has a few weaknesses though. First, the Bugs are pretty much a known quantity. The mystery is stripped away, you discover where all those ships came from, and the Bugs are just faceless bag guys, not the invulnerable force of nature they were when THEY led attacks in IDG.
Second, Weber or White has succumbed to the temptation for Hollywood-style 'coincidences.' The Bugs somehow managing to keep a small world alive is one, but that's not the most unforgiveble. I won't get into that one, but let's jsut say that the whole scene involving ONE GUY in a SPACESUIT after a battle was just too contrived, and ws horribly out of place with David Weber. He takes an almost perverse delight in killing off his main characters on occasion. As such, Star Trek style saves, where only the faceless guys die, stand out way too much. Other than that, though, this was an excellent book!
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24 of 31 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars Lots of action and pseduo-military jargon - and nothing else, January 29, 2002
I read many other Weber's books and enjoyed most of them.... However, this book (a sequel to In Death Ground) does not cut it. There is not much of a story, just an unending series of colorful descriptions how the "fighters scream to get vengeance", and undeing tally of the quantities of ships commited and number of KIA and WIA. The tactics are reasonable in some cases, and stupid in others. The humans are either heros or villains/cowards with no middle ground. There is unending repeatition of the advantage of one weapon over the other (how many times do you need an explanation what is a primary pack, and what is it good for?).
The book is BORING!! The only reason I give it 2 stars and not one, is that it continues "In death ground", which also tends to repeat itself similary, and if you loved the first (I did not), you entitled to read the other. However, "In Death Ground" contained some story, and it brought the concept of the bugs, while this one does not.

In my opinion, Mr. Weber wamted to capitalize on the previous book and readers will pay to see a story brought to an ending.
It is not worth it - it's his worst book up to date.

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