find out how open-minded your liberal friends are


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Initial post: Aug 31, 2011 6:33:52 AM PDT
try recommending this book to any of your liberal friends. you will discover that they are not as open-minded as they say they are. they will probably denounce this book and ann coulter, even if they have never read her. then try to find out where they are getting their info. some of my lib friends say they don't listen to the news, but they HATE fox news . they can't answer why they hate FOX. very disturbing. I quoted a recent Obama "LIE"to one of my friends, my friend changed Obama's direct quote, and then explained to me what he was meaning to say!!!! Where does this weird kind of adoration come from?

Posted on Sep 23, 2011 12:20:51 PM PDT
Enigma says:
It has to do with something call ideology,

An ideology is a set of ideas that constitutes one's goals, expectations, and actions. An ideology can be thought of as a comprehensive vision, as a way of looking at things (compare worldview), as in common sense (see Ideology in everyday society below) and several philosophical tendencies (see Political ideologies), or a set of ideas proposed by the dominant class of a society to all members of this society (a "received consciousness" or product of socialization). The main purpose behind an ideology is to offer either change in society, or adherence to a set of ideals where conformity already exists, through a normative thought process. Ideologies are systems of abstract thought applied to public matters and thus make this concept central to politics. Implicitly every political or economic tendency entails an ideology whether or not it is propounded as an explicit system of thought. It is how society sees things.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideology

People who follow ideologies are called ideologues, here is a great description of an ideologue:

"The most common variants of Ideologue are conservative and liberal. Smug and self satisfied in their certitudes, Ideologue's opinions are merely a loose collection of intellectual conceits, and he is genuinely astonished, bewildered and indignant that his views are not universally embraced as the Truth. He regards the opposing point of view as a form of cognitive dissonance whose only cure is relentless propagandizing and browbeating."
(Sorry I don't have the source)

While there are ideologues on both sides of the political spectrum, there are many more hard left ideologues than hard right. This is because as Wikipedia states: "The main purpose behind an ideology is to offer either CHANGE in society, or adherence to a set of ideals where conformity already exists, through a normative thought process.

While some ideologues don't want change there are many more who have radical ideas and they generally fall on the left. That is why there are more ideologues on the left and that is why the left seems so unreasonable. Ideologies lead to dogmatic thinking and group-think where people continually reinforce talking points and deny and distort reality to fit their ideology.

Ideologues will not be responsive to other points of views or even contemplate them because they are certain they have the truth and everything else is lies. "Ideologue's opinions are merely a loose collection of intellectual conceits, and he is genuinely astonished, bewildered and indignant that his views are not universally embraced as the Truth. He regards the opposing point of view as a form of cognitive dissonance whose only cure is relentless propagandizing and browbeating."

Cheers

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 24, 2011 12:42:31 PM PDT
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Posted on Sep 25, 2011 2:59:46 AM PDT
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Mr. Jay states..... "Sorry but my experience, the people who admire FOX and Coutler are the most narrow minded ignorant folks around."

What "experience" is that again Mr. Jay, that you are specifically referring to? Please don't confuse your "opinion" for "experience". You obviously detest FOX News, while many other people DO NOT. That is "fact", not "opinion", and as the world turns. FOX News is the highest rated watched, news media outlet, preferred by the majority of people.
That is "fact", not "opinion"! Why does that fact, bother you so, is anyone's guess!

The truth is... because of your very own "misinformed, misguided, and ill-informed political mindset" (which is my opinion), Mr. Jay, you "opine", those who enjoy FOX News live in their own little world. That is "opinion", not "fact". What "inconvenient facts, and differing opinions of liberal bias", are you specifically referring to? By your own words, actions, behavior, conduct, and demeanor... you disagree with opposing political thought, and engage kin name-calling, employ personal attacks, and embrace insults. WHY? SO WHAT? The truth is... the majority of people enjoy FOX News, and Ms. Coulter, for that matter? Who are you again? What is your name to fame? Why do you consider your very own personal and political views, opinions, ideas, and thoughts "only", as significant or important?

The truth is... Ms. Coulter wrote this specific book, and targeted it to her political fan base, and you are envious of that "fact"! "IF", you believe that MSNBC, or any other news media outlet is better, in your view ONLY, than FOX News, then so be it. There is no reasons for you to denigrate, dismiss, discredit, demean, or dehumanize anyone who does not agree with you personally, and/or politically! You therefore prove beyound a shadow of a doubt, Mr. Herman's, and Mr. Enigma's "opinions", as "fact"!

It is you, Mr. Jay, who would therefore be considered, by any open-minded, clear-thinking, fair, balanced individual to be... "ignorant, most narrow, intolerant, arrogant, smug, close-minded, immature, ridiculous, silly, immature, uneducated, inexperienced, and in complete denial of the truth".

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 25, 2011 1:13:39 PM PDT
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Jay says:
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Posted on Sep 25, 2011 2:52:42 PM PDT
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Mr. Jay, you need to please calm down, before your blood boils, you speak in tongues, and your bloodpressure sky rockets to the moon. Who did you dehumanize? Are you serious? Your initial comment was..... "Sorry but my experience, the people who admire FOX and Coutler are the most narrow minded ignorant folks around."

"Narrow minded, ignorant folks, dittoheads, limited intellect, and integrity"? Simply because you say so? Do you have any idea what the concept of "integrity" stands for? You continue dehumanzing folks by calling them "backwards people". REALLY? In your opinion, not fact, these folks do not offer "quality feed". You say that you are open-minded, clear-thinking, tolerant, civil, and respectful? ARE YOU SURE??? If you desire to defend Mr. Gore, be my guest.

The point I have "PROVEN" is... you are a name-caller, who engages in personal insults, your very self, by your very own actions, words, deeds, behavior, conduct, and demeanor. Certainly to any "true", open-minded, clear-thinking person, you most certainly dehumanized those... "who prefer to watch FOX News"! Are you so blinded by your chaotic, misinformed, misguided, and ill-informed politics, you do not see that for yourself? You are to the left... what you say... Ms. Coulter is to the right!

I strongly agree... one should watch as many news media outlets... as they "prefer". I also watch CNN International, and CNN, for example, but do not prefer, to watch MSNBC, because of their "far-left, extreme, radical, socialist, elitist, progressive, one-sided biases". That is my choice!!!

Once and for all, (please read "S-L-O-W-L-Y")... you detest Ms. Coulter, and that is your right. Many others do not, and that is their right. But of course you are "open-minded", but of course, you are Mr. Jay. The more you post, the sillier, funnier, entertaining, and immature you reflect to any interested readers.

Now take care, calm down, cool down, take a deep breath, count to ten, look into the mirror, and do not be afraid of "who", and "what" you see. You are a comedian, who lacks talent. In your world, you are significant, and important. In the real world you are not!

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Posted on Sep 25, 2011 5:31:50 PM PDT
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But of course, in your political mindset, you desire to believe you are being "honest", and that you didn't dehumanize anyone Mr. Jay.
But of course, "in reality", you did, and you continue to do so! You are spewing dishonesty with every word you type.

Ms. Coulter is selling a book, to her political fan base. What are you doing? You say Ms. Coulter is calling people, "Nazis, traitors, demonic, mobs. liars etc". Well, what are YOU calling people? Did you not call... those with opposing political views... "narrow minded, ignorant folks, dittoheads, who have limited intellect, and integrity"??? Are you not parroting Ms. Coulter? But, YOU are doing so from the "LEFT"?

Once again, the liability of your misinformed, and misguided, political mindset, will not allow you to see the trees, beyond the forest. You choose to be in "denial" of your intolerance, ignorance, and arrogance, which is fine with me. You are only reflecting to others, you are in complete intellectual denial, to opposing views, opinions, ideas, and thoughts. Unfortunately for you, that is your problem, not mine!

Once again Mr. Jay, there is absolutely no need whatsoever for... "name-calling, personal attacks or insults". What do you believe you are positively, or productively, accomplishing with that FAILED liberal tactic? It is your "opinion", I am... "a narrowminded ignorant fanatic who is constitutionally incapable of appreciating anything that contradicts your little world."..... "IF", that is your "opinion" so be it. There is no need for me to respond with what I think of you, because it is irrelevant. All of this disrespectful and incivil banter of politics... is irrelevant.

Mr. Jay, you do make me smile with such hilarious, pathetic, sad views, opinions, ideas, and thoughts. You do entertain me, by such intolerant, ignorant, political gibberish, and chaotic, insecure, childish behavior. The truth is... "by your very own admission, words, deeds, demeanor, actions, conduct, and behavior"... you are acting out... "exactly"... as you "opine", Ms. Coulter is doing. Therefore, you and her, are very much alike, but on opposite sides of the political spectrum. Nothing more and nothing less.

Your obvious, demented, unwarranted, un-called for "anger, terror, desperation, frustration, intolerance, insecurity, immaturity, arrogance, smugness, disrespect, and incivility", is defined by... "your very own words, and actions". You "define yourself", for who, and what you are. You are in sheer "denial", and you personally choose not to recognize that fact. It is not my concern whether you are a "man of honor", or not. We unfortunately already BOTH know the answer to that question, with a ridiculous comment, such as..... "Sorry, but your opinion is trash and world view is tiny." BUT OF COURSE, Mr. Jay, BUT OF COURSE!!!

In my opinion, no "opinion" (even yours) is trash. It is just, one's "opinion", and should be respected, regardless how one feels. You may disagree, but there are no justifiable reason(s) to be so riled up, over the "right of an American", to feel how they choose to feel, if they do so respectfully.

It is obvious, to any fair, balanced, open-minded, educated, experienced, clear-thinker, you have a personal, and professional problem, or issue(s), with Ms. Coulter. I assure you, (in my opinion), she doesn't care. Therefore why should you? You are making an "intellectual fool" out of yourself. For what? "Politics"? Do you honestly believe, you will ever be as successful, by any definition, as is Ms. Coulter?

Here is a novel (excuse the pun) thought..... why not write your own book and prove who is the most successful author?

Take care, and please, calm down. Politics is a comedy routine, and should never be taken seriously! But the manner how you personally choose to handle yourself, with those who do not agree with you "politically", defines you as a man, and human being.

Try a conversation or discussion, "with out", the insults, personal attacks, and name calling!!! Ms. Coulter is who she is, and you are, who you are!!!

Posted on Sep 26, 2011 1:49:07 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 26, 2011 1:54:04 PM PDT
Enigma says:
Jay,

I don't think you understand this but your posts just proved the original premise.

Cheers

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 27, 2011 4:40:25 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 27, 2011 1:08:35 PM PDT
Mr. Enigma, (as always my friend), you speak nothing but the truth, and are quite observant. It is neither odd, nor surprising, Mr. Jay, did "in fact", prove Mr. Herman's original premise, with his very own responses.

In my opinion, Mr. Jay chooses to be blinded by his politics, and is in denial, when it comes to his conduct, demeanor, and behavior, when responding to those, he does not agree with politically. He feels the need to insult and name-call. That is nothing more than a very poor deflection, and diversion.

I smiled most of all, when Mr. Jay stated..... "Like most Coutler fans, you are a narrow-minded ignorant fanatic who is constitutionally incapable of appreciating anything that contradicts your little world. If insulting and dehumanizing people really upsets you as bad as you claim it does, then you wouldn't be Coutler's fan."

It appears poor Mr. Jay fails to recognize, and does not "respect" the "fact", Americans have the right, in this country,
to read whatever books, written by whatever authors, they desire, to read! Or, watch whatever news media outlet, they prefer to watch, like FOX News, and not be unjustly, and unfairly, personally attacked, insulted, dehumanized, demeaned, discredited, or diminished, because those same Americans, practice that right!

I do enjoy reading the words of those like Mr. Jay, and others, (we both know, who I am referring to), who do not practice a code of conduct, that allows for tolerance, diversity, understanding, civility, and respect. Mr. Jay, and those who believe as he does, appear to be so chaotic, yet to me, are very entertaining.

Where is Mr. Jay's "common-sense"? I do hope and pray, Mr. Jay finds it soon, before he blows a gasket!

Take care and God Bless.....
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