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Initial post: Oct 1, 2007 8:40:22 PM PDT
ROTO ROCK says:
SHOULD SEX BE IN VIDEO GAMES?

I myself have no problem with violence in games or when a man and a woman kiss, or make a "REFERENCE" towrd sex. They just dont need a whole sex scene in a game. Im not one of those people that think the whole world should censored, I just think that full blown sex scenes is irrelevant to the games plot. Now if they "REFERENCE" it but not show it thats fine. Its not my decision to get rid sex in a game, I just think its not relevant to a game.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 1, 2007 8:47:53 PM PDT
it depends on the plot.

amazingly enough, sex can be relevant at times.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 2, 2007 11:53:28 AM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Oct 2, 2007 6:50:27 PM PDT
David Smith says:
it depends. i wouldn't be offended by it, but if it has no point being in the story then it's not needed. for example, sex was in god of war, and it was pretty relevant there. but if it's just thrown in for no reason, then i might find it unnecessary/tasteless.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 3, 2007 5:25:47 AM PDT
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Who's to stop kids from buying it?

It would be labeled MATURE, but parent's let their kids buy mature games all the time.

Anyway - I think they would be best sellers. Just look at today's multi-million dollar porn industry. And it's not just "pervs", it's husbands, it's wives, it's couples wanting to learn new positions. It's Doctors, Lawyers and it's you and it's me. Look at the news and you'll see who's been involved with porn and/or arrested for some sort of mistake - i.e. Senator Craig from the Tater state of IDAHO.(my oh my - he certainly could say "I'd a ho!").

Look at President Clinton and Ms. Monica Lewdinsky -

All walks of life Mr. Lang. All Walks of life.

Sex sells in America.

IMHO, a sex video game would be kind of cool.

Choice of characters - MF, MM or FF. Whatever your tastes or desires. You could be either one. Role reversal.

Polish your Dating techniques. Or pick-up techniques at a local bar.

Choice of having another date, or going home - or taking them home or someplace else,

Choice of first base, second base, third base or home run.

And so on (knowing I have to keep this post within Amazon guidline or it will be deleted).

Ken

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 3, 2007 8:19:28 AM PDT
I think sex should be in video games,Why not? If there is a big enough market for it , I'm sure it will be.In Japan there are sex games, Take The game Indigo Prophecy, In France (and maybe all of europe) It is called Farenheit and there are a few sex scenes, and even in the us version there is one , albeit not graphic but it is very relavent to the plot, the story could be told withoutit, but it added "humaness" to one of the characters who technically was dead ...(ew?).. As for straight out porn games , Hey we're adults..If thats what makes you smile big and bright and you "harm no one" I think the main stumbling block is It just wont sell enough. Adult gamers are not the biggest audience, I reckon..

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 3, 2007 8:41:44 AM PDT
They could try and hinder kids from getting it easy, there's rating above M which is AO - adults only. The only game I've heard of that was going to get that rating was Duke Nukem but the problem was nobody would publish it and no stores would have carried it.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 3, 2007 10:36:25 AM PDT
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I don't know why people are so bashful about sex, it's arguably the most basic and primal piece of human existance and people still blush about it. It's truly sad. I wouldn't care if a game had nothing in it but mindless irrelevant sex if I actually found the gameplay legitimately fun (Kama Sutra Katamari?) because that's all games are supposed to be is fun. There's no unwritten rule saying games have to be deep, thought provoking, or politically correct. As far as a story telling device is concerned I think sex is and can be a great tool. For me I don't see it really contributing much as an actual gameplay element but game developers always surprise me with ways to make something stupid and pointless completely enjoyable and amazing.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 3, 2007 12:06:00 PM PDT
UNHchabo says:
It's like American films versus European films. If American films contain sex or nudity, it's erotic/pornographic. If European films contain sex or nudity, it's art. :)

In all seriousness, sex can be relevant in a game if it's done well, just as it can be in a film. If it's not relevant, who cares? Then set the rating at AO (Adults Only), and let the "perverts" (read: the average person) buy it.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 3, 2007 3:36:16 PM PDT
Why is it I can saw people or human like creatures in half on with a chainsaw built into my gun or blow them apart with a well placed shot in Gears of War, the new Ninja Giaden that they are making allows me to chop off enemy libs and yet at times they were still come after me if I don't finish them off, Manhunt allowed me to suffocate with a plastic bag, choke, beat with a bat, stab in the neck with a shard of glass, and kill enemies is several other ways and yet how dare the gaming industry shows nudity or sexual acts even being hinted at. That I just don't know how to handle. I real wish that some people would just grow up and get real.

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In reply to an earlier post on Oct 4, 2007 12:16:10 PM PDT
Raul Duke says:
idk, leisure suite larry magna cum laude was pretty funny at times.

making him get drunk and go streaking was way funnier than any of the sex jokes though.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 21, 2007 10:52:48 AM PDT
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I believe in freedom, not just because I'm an American, but because I think it's the right thing to do.

It's true what one guy said here about the difference between American culture and European/Canadian culture, but in more ways than that author mentioned. I spent six years in Germany and toured around. In the U.S., we keep our "Playboys" and "Hustlers" in black-plastic bags, on top shelves in book stores or behind the cashier counter in convenience stores out of the reaches of children, and so one could determine from this that the entire society here is taking a foothold, if that's the right word, on how people act in public. We censor nudity and sex, but we have no intentions of withholding violence from our society, or even saying it's wrong. Our U.S. Presidents, without even the power from Congress, have made war and had people killed, but the people who are coming out talking about video game violence don't seem conscious towards our own behavior: we still have things like the death penalty when Europe does not, we think of video games when we think of child's misbehavior, and we blame all the ways children use to have their own freedoms and sometimes revolt against parents--not just for the sake of revolt, but because there's a need to address things we normally avoid. I'm not saying I do not empathize, because I agree with parental concern, emphatically; I'm just not sure we're blaming the right things.

Europe/Canada, on the other hand, they do the exact opposite of the Americans. They censor violence from television, not sex. In mainstream newspapers, they print advertisements for women's panties using pictures of topless women. In convenience stores, you see the nudie and sex magazines mixed in with all the others in plain sight, on the bottom shelf, with nudes right on the front cover, no black plastic, and no sign saying "adult reading material" the way us Americans do. At night time, many countries have outright porn movies running. Believe it or not, the children and adults there don't see any problem with this; they seem better off! For thousands of years before, Europe's been an area of many wars; but, for these last fifty years, Europeans have used technology to pacify the violence from their system. They don't think sex is wrong. They just think you should get a room. Germany has the Love Parade where guys wear kilts. Europeans were, at one time, strong in pagan beliefs on nature, and their attitudes now are certainly a lot closer to nature than us Americans! I don't think killing is natural, but sex is. Perhaps Americans aren't natural. We seem to be in a constant fear of ourselves, and others.

I have empathy to the people who have tried to explain our violence or children's attitudes by talking about video game violence. But, I completely disagree that the problems are caused by video games. To me, this is a way of copping out of having to address a problem lying within our Americanisms. It's easy for parents to blame video games for bad attitudes, because it doesn't take any work from parents to do so. I think American media are a reflection of American attitudes, and it's no different with video games or the violence we see on television everyday; why blame video games? We expect children not to revolt against parents, but we're forgetting who we are, because we don't carry mirrors around with us all the time. We don't see our problem because our problem is part of us. A kid shoots someone at his school, we don't blame guns and violence, we blame video games. There's an ethics argument saying video games purge bad things instead. It's hard to prove ethically that the video game is the culprit.

Video games have evolved into a serious industry; they should be treated seriously. They have the power to communicate and educate, are interactive and able to tell stories. In our examination of a few questionable things, we are attacking an entire medium when we should not.

Of course, as always, what I would question is the value of each video game. But, this just makes me a critic.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 21, 2007 1:21:20 PM PDT
Magnus T says:
Wow I am speechless. You could not have said that any better.

The more we hide sex away from society, the more curiosity it provokes in people.
It would not be as big of a deal if sex was not so alienated and ostracized from society. But yet us Americans try to create the most perfect society and we think that trying to hide sex will hide it away from our kids.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 21, 2007 6:38:19 PM PDT
Kamiyama says:
Im sick and tired of people saying we shouldnt sell different kinds of media (games, movies, whatever) because theres sex/violence in it. We have a democratic society with a free market. A game or movie company should be allowed to sell whatever they please. Its not their job to raise your children. If you dont want your child seeing something, whats to keep you? doesnt the kid live in your house, eat your food, and watch your tv? Raise your own friggin kid, dont blame his wrongdoings on mass media. The simple act of TRYING to blame your poor parenting on other people also teaches your child irresponsibility. (hes watching you too...)

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 21, 2007 9:18:17 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Oct 22, 2007 6:13:06 AM PDT
ChomskyKnows says:
Actual sex? Sure. Label it AO (adults only). I'd buy it. Kids wouldn't be able to obtain it normally. They don't carry AO titles in stores.

I don't consider the "hot coffee" mod sex. They were fully clothed and the graphics were fairly terrible.

Most western societies are beyond this neo-puritanical nonsense. Only Americans are hung up on the sex = evil equation. Get over it.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 22, 2007 8:13:33 AM PDT
There is no 'should'. Developers have the right to create whatever they want. Yes, it will carry an M or AO rating and certain countries/stores will not carry the game if it's not what they want to sell, that's also their freedom.

If you don't agree with such a thing, then don't buy it. There is no should, though, only want. You buy what you want, others buy what they want. Simple as that.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 22, 2007 10:09:16 AM PDT
>> David Smith

I can agree with that. Sometimes the sex is added into a game merely to be titillating, to push the envelope, or to piss of Jack Thompson.

Sometimes however it can be very relevant. I am reminded of the scenes in Gothic 2 which allows for a quick flash by flash shot of the sex with a prostitute, but it doesn't show much - just the fact that things are happening.

The game puts you in a position to hire a prostitute, so therefore it is relevant to the game - yet it doesn't try to overdo it or make it anything more than it is - a plot device.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 22, 2007 1:13:56 PM PDT
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Dee Jude says:
Sex would increase our nation's interest in video games. I think sex scenes are what makes any kind of entertainment more realistic. It's just like profanity and violence. If I want to go outside and curse, punch someone in the face, or have sex with someone with whom I'm attracted to, I CAN. That is the essence of what is real and what is not. It doesn't matter if it is right or wrong, I can do what I choose.

As far as from a parent's point of view; would you rather your child be exposed to extremely brutal violence and murder; in which he or she may become a murderer (so psycologists say), or at worst, graphic sex scenes, where he or she could become a sex addict? Hmmm...that's a tough one right.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 22, 2007 1:45:12 PM PDT
A. Tyma says:
most major consoles have banned AO games. look at what happened to manhunt 2.

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