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In reply to an earlier post on Oct 22, 2007 7:37:18 PM PDT
Wolfnut88 says:
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Axt-Shin says:
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i would say,"probably not". i dont think people really want to see that sorta thing..even tho i have no problem with it. i no in some games they have reference toward sex..like you said...for example Max Payn 2, had one. i just wish M rated games should be treated like R rated movies. i hate that games like Man Hunt get censored for being too violent. im just happy that games "today" are getting more adult content...remembering SNES era and the no blood rule for MK was dumb.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 25, 2007 7:44:56 AM PDT
>> I.B. Cooper
While I'm normally on that band wagon, there is definitely evidence that *young* children are impressionable and will act out behaviors based on expectations. Psychologists studied young children's (8 - 10) reactions with a 'punching doll' after watching an action movie, and they found that the children came up with aggressive attack patterns based on what they had seen, and not come up with it on their own.

That being said - it is retarded to think that a 16 year old playing a game with sex in it will become a porn addict, and it is retarded to think that a 16 year old playing GTA is going to be influenced beyond learning they can blame it when they get in trouble.

Bottom line - be a parent. Don't let your young children mess with things they can't comprehend the 'consequences' of. An older child certainly understands the consequences after being taught, but a younger child may not.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 25, 2007 8:07:04 AM PDT
Mark Twain says:
I think full blown sex should be in a video game if the maker wants it to be there!
Who gives a crap! and those that don't like it don't have to buy the game!
However when they make such a game it'll sell like crazy and even you will probably buy it because you're a moron! and those Christians will buy it to study it as usual LOL riiiggghhhhttt... really this is just a stupid thread!

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In reply to an earlier post on Oct 25, 2007 12:34:45 PM PDT
B. Hoffman says:
I'd think a full blown sex scene would be a bit tasteless. I think the issue isn't the presence of sex in games, its the triviality. Many times it just doesn't seem to mean anything.
Somebody referenced GOW w/ Kratos and his mini orgys. It might be more appropriate if it tied into Kratos' frustration from killing his wife & child. As it is, its just him having a 30 second threesome (kratos...you could do better...=) ).
Sex as character development, sure. Sex as points (or even a goal)? Thats just a bit...weak I guess.

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In reply to an earlier post on Oct 25, 2007 6:09:50 PM PDT
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D. Reeder says:
I get so tired of seeing sex everywhere. I don't think it's hidden from Americans at all. Sex really does seem to be EVERYTHING. It's in almost everything we watch on TV and can sell almost anything to us. But I'm not opposed to it being in video games. Although a game with so much sex in it might distract from a good story line and cause me to lose interest in the game. I don't want my games turning into MTV in other words. Sex sometimes has a tendacy to cheapen things. It seems sometimes people don't think they need quality in a product cause its so....sexy anyhow. I much prefer the real thing anyway.

Honestly I think the reason alot of game designers just hint towards it rather than just give you a full blown, stickey, hair flying sex scene is because of the risk of alienating so many different people. Now days video games are not just for kids. They are not just for males. Children, adults, male, female, gay and straight play video games. If it's to explicit, children won't get the chance to play it (btw, most parents I know monitor what their children play. I can't say why people are always saying most parents don't. Some don't, but saying most don't is an insult to good parenting). And most of the time sex is done poorly in games. The game can be really HOT.......if you're a straight man or a lesbian women. Most games that contain sexuality that I've seen are only in this format. Very few (Fable for example) give an individual the chance to experience sexuality in a game as it relates specificaly to them. I don't think it's fair for sexuality in a game to only apeal to heterosexual men and their double standard when it comes to lesbians vs gay men. Cause if anything is more important to people than sex its the never dying need to feel more rightous than others.

That was alot blabbing to asnwer a simple question. I have to say yes because people want it. They want the choice to have it. Why not? But for me personaly, I can put down the controller and swith the TV to cable or open the internet or go to a bar and sex is all around me. Sex is important to me and it just seems so cheap to have it shoved in my face all the time. So I would CHOOSE not to play games that contained alot of sex...if I even had the choice to make.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 25, 2007 8:31:29 PM PDT
Should there be sex if video games? The question is irrelevant really. There is sex in video games, and if it should be there or not really depends on the game in question. I believe that all games should be made to the desires of its creators.

The real problem with things like this basically boils down to parents. The video game industry stepped up, they created the ESRB and use it to the fullest so that you know what you are getting in every game. The retail stores (90% of them anyways) are doing their part parts in checking for ID's for Mature rated games. Its the parents who are lazy and don't pay attention to what the kids play, and without even questioning it will often go ahead and buy the games for their kids, show the ID when requested and then proceed to give GTA San Andreas to their 6 year old to play.

So Should sex be in games?? sure, if the "Adult" buying it wants it there
Should parents let their kids access it?? absolutely not, but the will and then they will blame the game instead of themselves for its content....

Oh, and to Happy Scamper.. you should look around the internet more, there are a few games for the computer that are very much as you describe giving you a sim type of control where you have a apartment and you go on dates, and when the date is good, then you get to bring them home and attempt to have sex with them, (without the crazy cartoon jumping in bed) There is also a particular game where you are president clinton with a certain desk clerk. The games are out there if you look for them, however they aren't to be known about unless your adult, because they are adult's only games, they aren't available in the normal ways. They are restricted as they should be.

I personally like have sex censored and you that complain about america keeping sexual themed things seperated and censored, well you need to visit a foreign country sometime. Go into a video store, then see what you think when you see the "infantil" kids movies sitting on the shelf right next to the hardcore porn videos.... I hate to think of my kids walking in and seeing those kinds of things...

So, Lets just get the adults to start paying attention to the rating system, and using it, once they do, then you will see more of the Mature rated games coming out because they won't have to fight about the kids playing them... As for the Adults only "Porn games" Trust me when I say they are good for a laugh and will bore you after about 10 minutes...

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In reply to an earlier post on Oct 27, 2007 3:10:04 PM PDT
All right, let's get this right. Hiding sexual references doesn't make our society worse, it makes it better. Europe is more "peaceful" sure. But how many more of their teenage girls gets pregnant and has to drop out of high school? Over 20.000 in just 2005 (1) A wealth of research over the past twenty years (done by prestigious institutions such as Harvard, Princeton, and UC Berkeley) has shown that marriages don't last nearly as long in Europe (of course that could just be because a man can go and find some whore or loose woman and doesn't have to worry about the sanctity or monogomy of marriage). (2) And guess what kinds of people are reported to have the best sex? Married, monogonous, Christian women! This has been the result of numerous surveys and studies. (3)

If you look at the infastructure of our society (not just the international affairs) you'll find that their society is much worse than ours. Women, would you like a man you don't even know coming up to you and touching your breasts? I think not. That's the norm in Italy. Most of Europe has become the most sexist civilizations in modern history (and by modern I mean about 1500 years). (4)

How would you like to see two people having sex in a shopping mall? Over 350 visitors to France have reported this sight in the past ten years. (5)

Does this sound like a good society to you?

Personally, i don't even feel that there should be graphic violence in video-games. The GTA series itself is disgusting. It portrays this world where you can do whatever you please with no reprocussions. Believe it or not, ther actually have been studies that show that prolonged exposure to bloody, realistic, violence can actually warp the psyche into believing that this is the norm. Of course, the same can be said of violent lyrics in music and horrific scenes in horror movies (e.g. Saw I, II, III, IV...).

We portray these horrific scenes to the mass public, stupidly ignore the threat to our children (or blatantly choose to do so anyway) and then we're all suprised when college students take a gun and shoot each other! Wake up!

Okay, I think I've rambled on long enough. Just think about this when you skip to the next person who'll tell you that sex, drugs, and rock and roll make society great: in every society throughout history the norm for a family has been the same: one man, one woman, and some children. Every society. Find one that wasn't like that, and I'll succum to your arguement. Why are we so arrogant that we feel that in the last millisecond of history we're free to redefine what the 'norm' for sexual behavior is? That's not only arrogant, that's auspicious.

(1) Grey, James et.al. The Pregnancy Problem. New York Post. Second Edition. (c) 08/2001
(2) Johnson, Alex. Pray Together, Stay Together: A Look at Modern Europe. Reno Gazette Journal. September 17, 2004.
(3) Grant, Amy. Sex and the Church. Appleby Press, Newfoundland. (c) 2003
(4) Miller, Jayme. Facism to Sexism: The Decline of Italy. Chicago Sun Times. August 14, 2006.
(5) Schmitt, Anden. Don't go to France!. The Travelers Journal. March, 2002.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 27, 2007 5:04:28 PM PDT
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Boring, boring boring, Who are we to in the last millisecond of history too say the world isn't flat........ or that the sun doesn't revolve around the earth or a number of other dearly held norms, if your so concerned about your kids then be their parent ill take care of mine , the problem with society no matter which continent or time frame its in or on is personal responsibility, if your morals preclude you from certain things fine you are free to that stance but don't judge or cast dispersions on others freedoms, sex or violence has been here since the dawn of man/ woman society has survived and in alot of older cases only survived because it embraced these precepts, if you as an individual just take responsibility and stop shifting the job onto society then your kids wont be into , or actually might have a good moral reasoned perspective on it when they do encounter it so stop with the cop out... and good for you you have obviously shown your Christian values in your post and I only mention them because of the your obvious affiliation to said religion, this is a Democratic Republic (U.S.A)with no state religion where people of all faiths and creeds congregated to create this great nation stop shoving your religious ideals on everyone else......... get a life focus on your own morals and faith as the good book says you should , the rest of us are not your concern (judge not lest ye be judged)

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In reply to an earlier post on Oct 28, 2007 3:27:11 AM PDT
I. B. COOPER QUOTING KAREN C. BEVERAGE--"The thing of it is, not everyone who plays video-games is an adult."

The thing of it is, not everyone who has sex is an adult.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 28, 2007 11:48:42 AM PDT
S. Noble says:
Well it would really depend on the game. There are actual PC games where sex is pretty much the main point of the game. They are AO, of course, and only sold online, but they exist. Even Amazon sells a few, though not any of the better ones. They are called hentai games.

So yes, sex should be in some video games. But in games where sex isn't part of the plot, it can detract from the experience of a game.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 29, 2007 10:10:57 AM PDT
>>I.B. Cooper

I think you've really hit the nail on the head as far as philosophically we are concerned. If public nudity, rampant sexual disease transmission, etc. represent moral decay - they are merely the symptom, not the cause.

Many of the people who campaign the strongest for sanctions against sexuality are themselves closeted freaks. I couldn't help but laugh at the Baptist minister here in Alabama who ended up suffocating himself with his rubber suit with the d*ldo stuck in his butt for his friends and family to find.

I like to think I'm a decent person. I believe in strong family, I believe in God, and I believe in the wonderful things that we as humans can do. I do not however subscribe to regulating what happens between consenting adults. There is a line that can be crossed morally sure, but even painters such as Michaelangelo who painted chapels had no problem depicting nudity.

We shouldn't be so prudish as a society. Modesty is fine, but attempting to hide things to such extremes simply makes them more - not less - desirable.

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In reply to an earlier post on Oct 30, 2007 6:08:08 AM PDT
Ms. M says:
I think as an adult, it should be my right to play any video game I want. That includes the ones with sex! Parents need to be parents and sensor their children and their entertainment. I am 25 years old, if I want to have sex in my video games then I should be able to have it!

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Watcher says:
Arthur Blenheim, you certainly do know how to put your thoughts to words! You should come to the Amazon PS3 60GB forum (don't know if you have a PS3). You could shut up a lot of people in that forum! I love to listen to different viewpoints whether I agree with them or not. Especially if they are as well worded as yours is!

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 30, 2007 12:49:52 PM PDT
Sara Swett says:
I have been playing/watching video games since I was 3 or 4. Ones I couldn't yet play, I watched my siblings play. After about the age 10 or so, I basically had free range of whatever game I wanted to play, pretty much regardless of the age range since my parents knew if I didn't play it myself I would still watch my brothers go through it. I will grant you that video games have gotten more visually graphic in the last 10 years, but I did spend my developmental years playing video games. I would like to stress that a lot of these were shooters or survival horror.

I am a perfectly sane woman. I don't like violence. (Real violence. Pixels hitting other pixels isn't REAL violence.) I didn't beat people up in school. I didn't threaten to bring guns to school.

Know why? Because my parents raised me with morals and decency. They taught me that hurting other people was bad. To treat people the way I want to be treated. When I was young they told me video games were not real life, and just because you can do something there, doesn't mean you can do it in real life.

If you think video games made your kids violent, then maybe you missed giving them those lessons.
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