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SHOULD SEX BE IN VIDEO GAMES?


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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 19, 2007 11:29:34 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 20, 2007 2:44:58 AM PST
K. Weber says:
Mature content in a mature game? Total blasphemy.

In all seriousness, games aren't just for kids. The average age for gamers is well over 17, the Mature rating handed out by ESRB. Retailers do a decent job preventing young people from obtaining Mature games, and parents should be there to catch any that fall through the cracks. Parents have no right to complain about what their kids get if they don't try to monitor them.

A large problem in America these days are taboos and isolated incidents becoming law and preventing mature, responsible people from responsibly obtaining something with mature content. I wholly support a game with a full sex scene and similar content.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 21, 2007 6:46:56 PM PST
Game should have as much sex in them as an R rated movie, given how cinematic they've become. The nude scene in Mass Effect certainly made sense, given the cinematic scope of the game, and the fact that it was well-written and added to the plot. Games make more money than movies now. They aren't only for kids - as a matter of fact, they aren't even MOSTLY for kids. (Not unlike Comic Books) When, a game studio (like Rockstar) comes along that specializes in Jerry Springer-style hyperbolic game design decisions whose purpose is only to create controversy, that's different. But a well-written cinematic game with a sex scene or two? No worse than a nude scene in any film. I suspect that's why aside from Singapore briefly putting a hold on Mass Effect's release the game has been released without Bioware recieving forty lashes from the news media, despite the fact that it's such a high-profile game.

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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2007 4:01:41 AM PST
S. Coombs says:
who's been saying anything about violence?
and who says its a NECESSARY part of life?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2007 8:43:46 AM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2007 10:19:03 AM PST
Of course sex should be in some games. It should be labeled clearly and sold only to adults. Clear, easy. And there should be more totally adult related and based games in fact for PS3 and xbox for example. Clearly labeled, not thrown in family games, adult only games.

Its amazing its ok for your kids to blow people's heads off and see blood and strife
all over from very young ages but they cant see a woman's chest.. I am not advocating
that, I am just saying, murder and wars are a much bigger problem in this world than
a woman's chest. Trust me.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2007 3:18:38 PM PST
Absolutely, as long as it fits into the game. The video game industry needs to grow up, but more so, America needs to grow up. This false modesty is simply hypocritical. America has the largest porn indusrty in the world, yet people still seem to be afraid of sex. All Americans should travel to a European country for a week. In Germany, the 6 PM ads on TV show naked women in the shower for shampoo or something like that - and nobody cares. Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction almost turned into a riot, while the Germans and others, laughed at the ridiculousness of it all.

As long as it fits into a game, as in 'God of War' or 'Sin', absolutely. Do you really believe that 14, 15, 16 year olds have never seen nakedness? What planet are you living on? They have sex as early as 12 these days. And you're worried about some pixelated boobs on TV? Get real. The more you try to 'hide' sex from teens, the more interested they become. The 'hot coffee' incident - so what. IT'S A GAME people. It creates a chuckle and a laugh in teens, and that's all. You all need to relax in this country.

HT

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2007 4:21:03 PM PST
PS2 Bruce says:
Hi Arthur
It's because, for some reason while most other western countries have been through their "victorian" or "puritan' stages, for some reason, here in AMerica, we have never got past that. As far as "protecting the children" I would agree that exposure to violence, one would assume would be much more harmful to their delicate little pysches then exposure to sex. Think about it-if what they see "influences" them to such a degree that they "emulate" it, well, I don't know, If I had to choose, I'd say I'd rather my kids be having sex than killing people. What's so terrible about sex? It's part of life. Video games, or movies, or TV, dont "cause" violence. There was violence before there was TV. Or movies. Or cars. Or electricity. Humans are violent animals. It's our nature. Big deal, a sex scene in a video game. Instead of worrying about that how about eliminating gangs? Keeping thugs in prison where they belong? Standing up for our own sovereign country?

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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 23, 2007 8:38:01 AM PST
Correction, violence a necessary part of death.

The world is based on predation, business, sex, war; it's all predation. Games just make entertainment out of all that. I don't get charged up over a business simulation (maybe that's why I'm not an entrepeneur) but now a sex game, hmmm.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 23, 2007 10:24:27 AM PST
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Wolfnut88 says:
taki renzaburo
I would like to thank you for the support, when i do face the guy with the AK-47 i am scared, but not for me, i am scared for my friend, the soldier next to me. Still the point of war is to make peace, it is a wierd way to make peace but it is also the last resort. As for the British troops, I have seen them take the enemy head-on. The thing about it is "why put ourselves at risk when we have nothing to gain" seems to be there way of thinking, not a bad way to see it right?
Now to the forum,
Sex is veiwed as something you do behind closed doors, which is fine, but parents introduce a level of mysticism that is created by not telling thier child all the facts, and when the child views sex in its many forms in video games the parents become mad as if it is the developers fault. If you educate a child about sex at a young age and continue to re-enforce the education then that child will view sex in its true foms, I say forms because sex can be funny, amusing, but mostly just the beautiful artwork of two people who are in love. I am a strong supporter of sex in video games because it just adds another elemant of entertainment to the game. Would I buy a game that is strictly just a sex game, probably not, but like in God of War it was funny, and in the latter case I would buy.

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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 23, 2007 6:47:23 PM PST
S. Coombs says:
"Not sure what any of this has to do with sex in video games."
Agreed.
I'm not saying that sex shouldn't be in games. I'm saying it shouldn't be in games that are targeted at Pre-Teens and Teens. Like if Halo had a lot of sex, it would have probably sold half as much as it did. It shouldn't make a perfectly good game with almost nothing offensive not playable by people who's parents won't let them.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2007 9:07:45 PM PST
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Allen says:
The more you label something as "THIS IS BAD" the more kids are going to want it. The more you hide sex way, the more people are going to want it.

I say make it if people want it. And if parents dont want their kids having it, heres an idea, dont let them get it. And if a kid has parents who dont care enough about how their spending their free time to even know what kind of GAMES theyre playing... the kid has bigger issues than a "naughty game" anyway.

However i think a game of computer animated sex would be just idiotic. But whatever floats your really perverted boat.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 25, 2007 12:26:03 AM PST
Sex *isn't* in 99% of video games marketed in the US. At least not in the way that most people imply. There are more "saucey" commercials on daytime television than there are references to sex in video games. Some of the latest Bluefly.com commercials and Axe come to mind. If we want to talk about this in a morality sense, then one has to take into account the currently acceptable popular media. At one time, racist remarks in Looney Tunes cartoons were deemed as safe.

What most parents don't want to hear is that your kid already knows about everything that they don't want them to know about. Part of it is actually because of trying to shelter them. For example, I remember learning about drugs through school (ie: the "keep kids off of drugs" campaign) in which they exposed us to more methods for acquiring and hiding such things than they did about actually explaining what it's like to be addicted to a substance and the moral and financial degredation that usually happens with it.

As several people in this discussion have already pointed out, there is a very well regulated system of rating games in place that PROHIBITS people under a certain age from buying them. Q.E.D: They ask for ID at toys R US, walmart, target.com, ebgames, gamestop, rhino and pratically every single retail chain that you can possibly think of. There are safeguards in place at every turn and all that aside, if parents are expected to pay for a child's education all the way out of college, then they can expected to do little things like paying attention to what they're buying for their kids.

They sell pornos and dvds in the same store usually 8D

There are much, much worse mediums for exposure in daily life than most people realize.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 25, 2007 1:57:30 AM PST
K. Pham says:
sex creates lives, violence destroys it

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 25, 2007 7:45:27 AM PST
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Cody M says:
I agree. I think its hillarious that kids, like me, are allowed to play insanely violent video games, chopping people up, shooting their heads off, running them over with a golf cart and things like it, but it is considered pollitically incorrect to let us see a game that has sex or sexual refrences in it. I mean seriously, would you rather have kids running around shooting people or having sex? Use that stuffing between your ears and think a little bit people.

But we still need to make sure that kids practice safe sex and stuff.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 26, 2007 5:54:46 PM PST
Amos Olson says:
I agree, the contents of a game should be driven by its story and context. My girlfriend likes to watch games get played: she thought the explicit nudity in God of War was appropriate and interesting, while the skimpy outfits of DOA 4 were unjustified and tasteless. Explicit sex is appropriate in one game, while suggested sexuality is inappropriate in another.

The mere presence of sex (or any other content type) is not inherently offensive... some game designers simply make it offensive by using it as a marketing ploy.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2007 3:04:29 PM PST
A. Goschka says:
"The more you label something as "THIS IS BAD" the more kids are going to want it. The more you hide sex way, the more people are going to want it."

You're absolutely right. In addition, we should tell children how good drugs, alcohol, prostitution, smoking, and cursing are at very young ages. That way they won't be likely to participate in them, right?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2007 3:16:39 PM PST
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A. Goschka says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 29, 2007 4:53:42 AM PST
Cody M says:
Alright Mr. Goschka, you just seem to be singleing me out here, but thats cool, Im up for a good internet forum fight. Im not saying that we should teach our kids that it is right to go out into the world right after they hit puberty and go start having sex with everybody they can find. Im saying that its funny that they can be violent in video games but not have/see sex in the game. Which would you rather have your kids doing once they get older? Now I think that teaching safe sex practices has a lot to do with sex being in video games. If/When you buy your kid a violent video game or got one when you were younger, what is the one thing that you said or your parents said. "This is a video game, this isn't real. Just because you can do it in here doesn't mean you can do it out there" Basically all that I am saying is make sure that kids realize this too.
And what you said about teaching kids morals is completely true. Partially I think that goes into faith, but that is a HUGE can of worms, I dont feel like opening.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 29, 2007 7:32:14 AM PST
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Ian Root says:
"If you were using your "stuffing," you would surely realize that the appropriate solution to your dilema is to remove all socially reproachable aspects from these games, meaning both sex and violence."

Really? Sex is a socially reproachable act? I was pretty sure that sex was one of the key things maintaining society. Or have I been lied to all my life, is sex not really how babies are made? The bottom line as far as I'm concerned is this, sex in video games is perfectly acceptable but I wish sex didn't permeate so deeply through all video games. Any female character you ever see in even the most child-oriented video games is portrayed as a sexual fantasy with large breasts thin waist and big hips, possibly even a visible thong (Daxter). I suppose I've gone off on a slightly off-topic tangent, but wouldn't it be nice if female characters could appear in video games without being objects of desire, or even be objects of desire but without the impossibly large chest? As a teacher I see young kids deal with body image issues almost every day. If we're going to surround our children with sexuality can't we at least show them that a woman can be beautiful without D cups.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 29, 2007 4:58:32 PM PST
R. Francis says:
Every time I think of videogame or animated sex, I think of a programmer or artist squinting into his/her monitor trying to get just the right shade of red for the panties. It's quite funny when you think of the man-hours that go into little details like that, or the physics that are attached to the breast movement in DOA. That in-and-of itself helps draw the line between reality and fantasy. Implied sex helps me immerse myself in a game better. When something is too gratuitous the only thing on my mind is, "Which programmer thought this would be a good idea?"
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