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In reply to an earlier post on Jul 13, 2011 12:38:49 PM PDT
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Posted on Jul 13, 2011 12:43:01 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 13, 2011 12:45:09 PM PDT
Oops! Sorry about that. I am on my mom's computer and wrong username...

Aloooooha Violet I miss you too! I hope things are going better for you personally. About the no sales. What's been working for me is making listmania lists. When I get home next week I will share how to do this effectively. As far as MOA forums being dead, I disagree. I still promote on the "Have You Written..." threads and there are still many readers there. PLEASE! Don't give up! Now you can post your book in the content of the post like I can post my book Patience SCARS: An Amazing End-Times Prophecy Novel but just not in the signature block. I understand this was the way they used to do it then Amazon added the links. Hope this helps!

((hugs))

Posted on Jul 13, 2011 6:12:14 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 14, 2011 9:40:08 AM PDT
Hi Violet and Patience,

I think we are the only ones left still trying to hang on to whatever dignity we have left. There are times when bad somehow gets worse, even when we are trying our best. There is a kindleboard.com message board, you probably know about. I tried to join and didn't get accepted. Ooookay. A couple of weeks later I tried again and wouldn't you know my password and login worked? I've lost my mind.

However, I posted about my book, did't go back for a long time, posted again and got a scathing notice that I'd broken their rules too? They deleted the first one and left the second with the scathing tongue lashing for all to see. I give up. Not going there again either. Nookboards. com are far more friendly, but then Nook is still trying to make money.

I think a lot of authors are gone from here now - just not worth the hassle anymore. I hardly see any of the old familiar names and when I open the MOA thread, the threads aren't moving much. I've been here two years and it is very sad.

Violet, you have every right to be upset. I am upset too, and hurt, and discouraged. So here's an idea. How about we meet over on Twitter? I have a blog, we can meet there, keep the blog going and have fun talking to each other. I will gladly put links to your books on the blog and you can help me think of some interesting things to talk about. Maybe others will join us and we can leave the bullies behind. Let them spend their days harassing newcomers, accuse people of being sock puppets or trolls, (whatever those mean) and we'll find a way to have fun and promote our books. We are good writers and we deserve it. maritalbottstories.blogspot.com/ twitter.com/#!/martitalbott

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 14, 2011 12:42:34 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 14, 2011 12:43:34 AM PDT
Hi Marti,

I'd love to get more involved off Amazon. I'll find you on Twitter and we'll see what we can come up with. :) I am thinking about doing guest blogs for my blog, see if we can get some followers that way. If you're interested let me know. :)

Aloha,

Vi

ETA: If any writers are interested in guest blogging on my blog (www.hawaiianviolet.wordpress.com), please look me up on Twitter. :) http://twitter.com/#!/violetyates2

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 14, 2011 12:50:23 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 14, 2011 12:50:43 AM PDT
Hi Patience,

I was feeling down last night, and cranky, so I vented on here, but I do think there are some issues with Amazon that aren't getting solved. One of my books made the premium catalog at Smashwords so hoping the others follow suit. I won't leave Amazon but I need to find ways to focus my attention on places that will help me promote. Amazon's not helping and my sales are suffering. I don't have money to spend on advertising, like some people do, and am disabled so I am sick a lot. I need to find a place that is more supportive for writers. And regardless of what Kelly said about some writers supposedly going into other forums and being sneaky about self-promoting, the rest of us who are following the rules are being put in the same category and are being shunned by quite a few. Just for being writers.
I tried the listmania thing, problem is I only know maybe one or two other books that are like mine. I will watch for your post on the subject when you get back. :)

God Bless,

Vi

Posted on Jul 22, 2011 9:19:40 AM PDT
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Posted on Aug 11, 2011 4:10:47 PM PDT
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Posted on Aug 29, 2011 12:08:38 PM PDT
Karlyn says:
I try to keep in mind that most new authors are repeatedly told to get out on the internet and post, post, post about their book. Unfortunately, that advice fails to warn them how this will often be seen as a rude interruption and not met with exciting fan-fair, so to expect a cold reception if they promote their sales pitch in reader/discussion communities. Ignorance doesn't excuse the behavior though, and I am often shocked at how many authors think we should be thrilled and excited to stop a conversation midway just to go buy their unknown book. Hey, we know you are excited about your first book being published, but step back and remember readers don't give a fig about your news when you rudely interrupt an active conversation. Amazon's MOA forum is for you to talk all about yourself, so please take advantage of it. From what I have read, authors there are finding some great success.

I am all for the no shameless self promotion policy. Over the years I've seen thousands of authors abuse these forums to the point MANY great forums literally died away. Clue #1: When there are more promotions than conversations going on in a discussion forum, the readers leave. (Duh, right?) But how do you police over one million authors? You can't. While most authors behaved like true professionals, so many others did not. Amazon did the right thing drawing a hard line. And when I read posts "Oh, just ignore them if you don't want to read it", I roll my eyes to the back of my head and think "that poster doesn't have a clue to the magnitude of spam they suggest we just ignore!" Amazon needed to decide if this area was for classifieds or for conversations. Fortunately they chose conversations, and I am so glad!

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 2, 2011 10:00:09 PM PDT
A Reviewer says:
I came across Authors Circle, not sure if it'll work, but seems more promising, the other two sites I've tried they never even wrote back. Worth a shot I guess. http://authorcircle.wordpress.com/

Posted on Sep 3, 2011 12:14:51 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 3, 2011 12:15:38 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Sep 15, 2011 7:29:13 PM PDT
"In just 5 weeks we have seen over one thousand discussions in this new forum!"

Well, you've got a bunch of writers there. I mean. Duh.

Basically, what you've got there is a bunch of authors peddling their books to other authors who aren't there to buy anyone else's book, but just to peddle their own books. It's the silliest damn thing I've ever seen. Well, I mean, besides certain politicians who shall remain nameless. Having thousands of discussions going on doesn't mean anyone is actually talking to each other, you know?

I think it'd be more useful for authors and readers alike if there was a thread on each forum for authors to peddle their wares to people who actually might be interested in the topic of their book.

Just a thought.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 19, 2011 12:34:53 AM PDT
MaryG says:
I've said the same thing.

On more than one occasion.

As have a variety of other posters.

The MOA forum was perhaps well-intentioned, but decidedly not well-planned. The threads are a Gordian Knot - what bold stroke will Amazon use?

Or is the plan to simply let things limp along as they have been doing, while both readers and writers (who are also readers, mind you) grow increasingly discouraged and drift away?

It truly would be nice if Amazon would provide a "verbal" response to questions which have been posed within this forum. And on the others, as well.

Nice, but not anticipated.

Posted on Feb 29, 2012 4:25:04 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Feb 29, 2012 8:24:12 PM PST
Firefly says:
Did you even read the OP to this thread? It says you are NOT to plug your book any place but the meet the authors forum and this is NOT that forum. Please use the link given in the OP. Oh, NVM, I'll post it here for you.

http://www.amazon.com/forum/meet%20our%20authors

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 10, 2012 1:55:06 PM PDT
Agreed Kribu.  Some readers do come to these threads but they are a mess. What type of genre do you like? I'd post mine for you if you like ya, science-fiction, apocalyptic, or dystopian. Anything else and I'm not your girl.

That's how it works! :) - Rachel E. Fisher

Posted on Jun 14, 2012 5:39:18 AM PDT
Hey, guys! B. C. Burgess here, new author, new to the forums, so I hope I'm posting in the right spot. I recently released my debut novel - Descension, book 1 in the Mystic series. It's Adult Fantasy with highly romantic elements, and it's FREE today and tomorrow, June 14th and 15th. Below is the blurb and link. Thank you for letting me post.

Descension (Mystic)
Finding out you're the most powerful witch in the world should make things easy, right? Wrong! Join Layla as she abandons her lonely existence in Oklahoma and embraces a life full of magic, love, heartbreak and danger...

The Angel
After three years caring for her dying mother, Layla Callaway learns she was adopted under unusual circumstances. Following a cryptic message to seek her birth family in Oregon, Layla uproots her lonely life, quickly finding she descends from witches and wizards. Magic is in her blood, and a handsome family friend is eager to prove it. Through a ring imprinted with her birth parents' memories, Layla's enigmatic past comes to light, presenting possibilities and trials more chimerical than her wildest dreams.

The Guardian
Quin's natural charisma yields plenty of witches, but he longs for the lost witch--the mysterious Layla. He's dreamed about her his entire life, envisioning the day he would lay eyes on her face and aura. When that day arrives, not only is he breathless, he's confronted with the challenge of a lifetime--an innate need to keep her safe and forever by his side.

The Hunter
Employing fiendish manipulation and manpower, Agro uses the arcane force of others to elevate his supremacy and wealth. Nothing pleases him more than latching on to a mystical vein, and never has there been a more enticing source. The divine witch will be his.

Stretching from coast to coast and teeming with loathed villains and beloved heroes, Descension is rich with emotion, magic and intrigue. Whether the reader is laughing, crying or falling in love, they'll find themselves invested in Layla's fate through the rich dialogue and emotionally driven characters that weave the web of this fiery tale.

Posted on Jun 14, 2012 10:11:49 AM PDT
Firefly says:
No, you are not posting in the right place. Did you not read the OP? The link to where you are supposed to be posting is right there.

Posted on Jul 2, 2012 3:36:03 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 2, 2012 3:37:09 PM PDT
I agree with Alpha Wingoove Karen's earlier post, although I'd use the term 'promoting' rather than 'peddling'. It seems a shame to me that on the other forum there may be a post such as, 'I'm looking for a book set the eighties', but an author who has written such a book is not allowed to respond. I honestly don't see the point of such a ban.

Besides, there a quite a few authors who ignore the 'rules' and post promotional stuff anyway. Ironically, even in this very thread.

Also Violet Yates has a valid point, where are the 'officials'? The rumour that the person charged with this responsibility is MaCavity are gaining momentum at a furious rate.

Posted on Jul 8, 2012 12:31:22 PM PDT
MOA is literal death for Authors, no one reads those forums

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 8, 2012 4:28:06 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 8, 2012 4:28:59 PM PDT
Firefly says:
Seriously? Have you even looked? It is a very active forum. It may not be what you want it to be but it's certainly active.

Posted on Oct 23, 2012 2:26:44 PM PDT
Minijax says:
Hi, I'm a British author, doing quite well over there, and making use of the Meet Our Authors pages regularly. A writer friend doesn't think that promotions on these threads work at all, and I've said that I'm successful in England, where I promote, but not in the US, where I don't. I'd like to experiment with a few threads here, but this is the only one I can find. How on earth do you find your way around Meet Our Authors in the US?

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 30, 2012 9:05:57 PM PDT
that forum is good to siphon off the spam from the otehr fora

other than that it is totally worthless

the problem with spam still exists though
even when we report dozens of them from the same person nothing is done to delete her threads or ban her

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 30, 2012 9:08:34 PM PDT
that is the point

it is a black hole to suck up the spam

nobody cares about thousands of amateur 'authors' books nor have time to wade through all their promotions

Posted on Feb 11, 2013 9:20:27 AM PST
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