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Initial post: Dec 9, 2010 9:42:06 PM PST
O.D. Green says:
Okay....I purchased my wife the 2010 Honda Pilot. It comes equipped with a warning light advising the air pressure in a certain tire in low. First -- great idea.... 2nd....the one on this vehicle is very sensitive.... seems like about every 3 weeks lately one of the tires sets off the warning light. I learned a long time ago it is just as bad to over-inflate a tire....but I am getting tired of taking her Pilot to the air pump. Could it be because winter as arrived or has anybody else had this problem? Suggestions? Can the dealership possibly make the sensor not me a sensitve? Any help (other than buy American) would really be nice.

Posted on Dec 9, 2010 11:29:22 PM PST
I have a Nissan Versa and it does the same thing, it can get very frustrating. I called the dealership and they told me to reprogram the car and it should be fine, I then reread the manual and did as it said and it worked, for me anyway. I hope this kind of helps, good luck.

Posted on Dec 10, 2010 4:31:52 PM PST
muffybquick says:
I have a Honda Civic 08 and have experienced what O.D. Green has spoken about also. When the temps go below 32 my sensor says that my tire pressure is low. It is, but due to the air temp - not a leak or defective sensor (The dealer checked). It IS sensitive. Just keep in mind that if you haven't checked your pressure when the temps dip, then do so and go by the pressure on the door jam. IE today air temps were in the 27 F driving to work, and the light came on. Driving home, the air temp was 32F and the light went off. I know I need to check my air pressure but I know it's not a slow leak so waiting until daylight will do. Hope this helps...Otherwise, good luck and maybe someone else has a better idea.

Posted on Dec 10, 2010 6:14:58 PM PST
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AS says:
As I understand the only Honda model line that the owner can reset the sensor are the EX-L, all others the $tealership will need to reset the TPMS.

These little buggers are real tempermental as I know many peple with different makes of cars that are getting these faults although the pressure is spot on.

I have a 2010 Honda Odyssey EX and a 2011 Toyota Camry and they have both lit up with in a month of each other (mind you I live in Florida and this happened back in Sept temp avg in the mid 80's), just waiting for the next oil change to have them corrected.

IMHO its just another money making scam to force you to use the dealership for tire changes as these buggers get easily damaged with tire replacements, once damadged your talking lots of cash for a small item, TPMS resets run easy $100 if no warranty. Ridiculous!!

Some people that can, just pull the fuse for the sensor to get rid of the light for good (winter tire swaps, etc).

Posted on Dec 13, 2010 5:15:11 PM PST
J. W. Theis says:
Agreed - they are quite sensitive. The best way to deal with the issue is to set the pressure above the manufacturer spec. - not over-inflating, though (there is a difference!).

Over-inflating involves exceeding the rated pressure maximum for the tire, it does not have anything to do with the manufacturer recommendation. For passenger/SUV tires, the rated maximum on the tire is generally 44-46 PSI. In contrast, the manufacturer spec is generally 28-32 PSI. I tend to run 35 PSI on a car that does not see heavy loads. For load-hauling, I will run closer to the tire's rated max, 40-44 (again, this is for passenger car tires, and only on the rear tires - the fronts don't see the load, so they can stay at 35).

The added benefit, aside from not having to deal with the TPMS warning light, is that you will get more longevity from your tires and you might even get a little better fuel economy.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 15, 2010 9:32:17 AM PST
S. Beynon says:
I have an '08 Honda Civic and have had the same experience. Of course I live in Pittsburgh and currently the temperature is 19 balmy degrees. When my tires are cold my sensor often lights up, but once they warm up it goes off. I have also found that some Honda's (probably other makes also) come from the factory with really crappy tires. I had absolutely no tread on mine with under 12,000 miles on them. They might be good name tires, but they are the LOW END of that good name. Just my two cents worth!

Posted on Dec 15, 2010 9:05:24 PM PST
nate says:
------IMHO its just another money making scam to force you to use the dealership for tire changes as these buggers get easily damaged with tire replacements, once damadged your talking lots of cash for a small item, TPMS resets run easy $100 if no warranty. Ridiculous!!------

Wrong, you can thank the government for that one. It is a safety feature that is is required in all new cars sold in the US. And trust me, most dealerships think of them to be more of a headache for them and their clients more than a money maker.

On most cars, the Tire Pressure Sensors are made by the same company who supplies them to the car company, and usually the light will come on when ONE or MORE of the tires pressures fall to or below 20% of the vehicles recommended pressures.

From my experiences i've found it best to set the tire pressures to 4 psi above whats written on the side of the drivers door during winter to avoid that pain in the butt light coming on.

And taking the sensors out of the vehicle will turn the light on, and pulling the fuse will turn the light on, or let you know there is a failure with the TPM system.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 29, 2010 4:20:29 PM PST
John Burrows says:
The light on my 2008 Honda CRV comes on when the weather changes in late fall, usually the first really cold snap we have here in Ohio. That is the only time it comes on. It may need an adjustment by the dealer.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 29, 2010 9:21:35 PM PST
tlm550 says:
Check all of your tires and valve stems for leaks.

Oh, your wife's Honda Pilot?
She can't add air to the tires? If a person can't check tire pressure, inflate tires, check oil, change oil, then they shouldn't be driving a car.

Not all American cars are bad... just like not all foreign cars are good.

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Posted on Jan 1, 2011 4:07:58 PM PST
Rick Blaine says:
Have your tires checked by an independant tire shop. I thought the one on my wifes 07 VW was defective but the guy at the tire shop (discount tire) found a tiny nail between the treads. He removed it, patched the hole, and the problem went away.

Posted on Jan 1, 2011 9:09:08 PM PST
A. Thomas says:
I know this may sound insulting, but did you check the spare? It is not exempt from the tire pressure system, and often causes confusion when the light goes on.

Posted on Jan 6, 2011 3:04:13 PM PST
Joe Average says:
If the warning light bothers you just take the bulb out completely. I don't have the pressure checkers in my '99 CR-V but I do check the air pressure with my trusty digital tire gauge each month or before any long trips. I rarely have to add any air. I run Michelin tires. I have has cheap tires before that wouldn't hold air and lost maybe 5 psi a month.

Beware of the Bridgestones they may be putting on Hondas. I went through two sets back when. The first set lasted 35K miles. The second set sourced from a local tire store lasted 30K miles. About the last 1/3 of the tire life they shook, vibrated and were noisy during that period too. Switched to a better tire and the tires lasted ~65K miles each time and were smooth and quiet until the end. Am needing tires right now badly but again even way worn they are quiet and smooth. Had pirelli tires that were really tough and grippy but lasted only 30K miles. Smooth and quiet though. Look at the treadwear number when shopping for tires. Those Michelins were double what the Bridgestones were rated to last.

You get what you pay for sometimes...

Posted on Jan 6, 2011 6:49:49 PM PST
J. Whiteside says:
Sometimes the rims will corrode internally causing slow leaks. If it is always one tire, I would have a tire shop take a look. Maybe cleaning the rim and remounting would help.

Posted on Jan 10, 2011 8:54:57 AM PST
J. Waldvogel says:
These things are more trouble then they are worth. Problem is the Government says all Cars have to have them now. Now we are stuck with them. They are Sensitive. A couple pounds low and your light is going to pop on! Temperature changes can and does effect Air Pressure. Normally they tell you to check your Air pressure when the tires are Cold! When you drive on your tires, they Warm up, Warm Air Expands, and increases pressure.

Some Spare tires also have a Air Sensor in them. Not all, but some do. Which can trigger the light. Tires do slowly loose Air over time. If the light pop's back on after a day or 2 after checking the Air, you may just have a leaking tire from a Nail. Tires are Designed to seal around a Nail or whatever else goes into it. That way it just doesn't blow out or go flat Fast like a tire with a TUBE in it! I've seen tires with 2,3,4+ nails in them!

These Sensors if you didn't know have a small Watch type Battery in them!!! That means they will only work as long as the battery is good. That can be anywhere from 5-7 years and then they have to be replaced! You can't replace the battery, they are sealed inside. I think this is going to be a major issue within the next couple years as more and more Cars get OLDER that have these systems. Rememberer Battery life. Now think how long do your tires last before needing to be replaced? Whats the life Span of tires before they Rot, about 6 years. Your going to have Tire Shops Replacing tires, and a week or a month later or maybe even that day saying that there's a problem with the sensor and it's their Fault and they should replace it for FREE!!!

You have 4-5 of these Sensors, which can cost anywhere from $30-$150 or more depending on the car EACH! You can't replace them yourself. Replacing just 1 is kind of DUMB as the others are soon to follow. Some Cars/Trucks you have to Program the computer to the New Sensors, others will Automatically learn on their own. These costs add up!!!

All these B.S. because some people are to lazy to check their Air pressure, and the Government needs to get even more into our lives.

Posted on Jan 12, 2011 5:50:37 AM PST
lisa miller says:
you could have them inflated with nitrogen and the pressure will stay the same longer because nitrogen has a larger molecule than normal air and nitrogen is not affected as much as air with temp. changes ( considering you dont have a leak in the tire (s)) . air will leak through a perfectly good tire over time (this is normal to loose pressure in cold conditions)

Posted on Jan 12, 2011 2:39:06 PM PST
B. Kaufman says:
Yeah, because normal air only has 70% nitrogen, so that remaining 30% is going to cause you all sorts of problems, right? Maybe you need more argon, instead of Nitrogen. You know, for the MAGIC.

Come winter you lose about a pound for every 10 degrees drop from the summer temps/pressure. So air up your tires in winter. End of problem. But what do you do in summer? Why, let some air out if it hasn't already leaked out. Simple cheap solutions work best.

Posted on Jan 13, 2011 10:19:27 AM PST
J. Waldvogel says:
The whole nitrogen thing for Normal Car/Truck tires is a waste of effort! The nitrogen came about for Semi Truck tires! Because they're much larger, hold more Air. Keeping the tires At the proper Air Pressure can mean huge savings in Fuel over time. Also the nitrogen helps keep the inside of the tire rotting out as it ages, which is Important as they still run Retreaded Tires except for the very front steering tires. So the tires will be in better condition for a Retread job, again saving money. Retread tires on Cars/Trucks is no longer done. So again this isn't a issue.

COSTCO is well known for using nitrogen for the tires they install. Your tires will still go low, just take longer. Are you going back to COSTCO to have them top them off? There's not that many tire shops that do nitrogen. Wonder why! So most people are going to just add normal Air. There's goes your Special nitrogen filled tires!!! When you Mount up a tire, there's Air already trapped in the tire before the nitrogen is even added! I have once seen a wheel with 2 Valve stems on Opposite ends. So that you can open the top I guess and start filling from the bottom and get all the normal Air out then seal it. Which is heaver, Oxygen or nitrogen?!?! Which ever way. That's really getting crazy.

See a Green Plastic Valve stem Cap on a wheel, there's a Costco nitrogen filled tire.

Posted on Jan 30, 2011 8:03:00 PM PST
OMO says:
Two factors are likely to cause a tire press. warning to activate in cold weather-air, like everything else, contracts with falling temps, although this would be a one time event if you added air. A second problem is that rubber becomes less flexible at lower temps--esp. older tires--and this can cause a leak around the bead of the tire where it seals to the rim. Had that problem w/an '03 DeVille this winter and, since the tires were old and worn, replaced them. No more air leaks.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 11, 2011 3:53:21 PM PST
harpo says:
have the tires that r leaking checked for leaks if no leak have the tire to mag rim sealed they put it on the rim where the tire meets the rim.
you can check it for leaks with a spray bottle filled with a mix of water and dish soap heavy on the soap. or put tape over the light ha ha

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 11, 2011 6:41:50 PM PST
DEER says:
For every 10 degrees in temperature change, the tire pressure changes 1 psi; do the math. Example: if you fill your tire at 32 psi when it's 50 degrees, and next week drops to 0; then your tire is 27 psi now. Your owner's manual has some information about the sensors too. But since it's still under warranty, just take it to the dealership to fix it for free.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 11, 2011 6:47:25 PM PST
the cold weather will make the tire pressure drop. drive it and allow the tires to get hot, that will raise the pressure in the tire and should turn off the light if it does not have a leak.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 13, 2011 7:49:38 AM PST
Bring your car to a service center and have them take the tires off, drain the air and possibly water from the tires and have them spin balanced and refilled with nitrogen. Nitrogen isn't affected by air temperature as much as just filling up the tires with compressed air. Also if you bring the car to a gas station to refill the tires with air, sometimes water makes it way in can can freeze in the tire which "can" affect the TPMS.

Posted on Feb 14, 2011 2:48:19 PM PST
AngrySanta says:
My KISS approach... My wife had a slow leak due to a nail (older car with no sensor!) While I delayed patching it (handled it during the next oil change), I bought a little air compressor that plugs into the cigarette lighter and checked every other weekend and topped off as needed. I have a big compressor for air tools in my garage but I wouldn't turn it on just to add a few PSI to the tires (Plus I don't have a filter on it so there would be a lot of water vapor from the compressor. More water vapor = bigger PSI changes during temperature changes (due to weather and also heat generated by friction from driving)

Unrelated, when patching a tire I now use a 5 lb hammer to get the rasp into the hole which makes patching tires a lot more fun (and maybe a little dangerous, tires are very bouncy).

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 14, 2011 3:38:38 PM PST
Ohio John says:
Take it to tire discounters. They repair tires for free.
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