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Sound really loud with music, lower with voice how do I lower music sound.

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Initial post: Mar 5, 2010 9:19:47 PM PST
C. Gabriel says:
I have a Saumsung Plansma and Sony BDP S360 Blu Ray player, I have noticed on this and my old HD DVD player that the sound is really loud when there is music or sounds other than speaking is there a way to make the sound even throughout so I dont have to turn the volume down when it gets really loud. Also why is this happening. I tried some settings on the TV and player but nothing seems to work.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 5, 2010 11:11:56 PM PST
Mike says:
set your player to digital out or hdmi audio settings to stereo dowmix your plasma is reading only two channels out of five and therefore you missing center channel and dialog, you just overhear voices from main channels and that is why they are so weak

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 5, 2010 11:46:23 PM PST
EdM says:
I agree with Mike and Rose, but would add that on some occasions, especially TV original stuff, there may be loud music or explosions [in action scenes] with no dialog, for effect. This depends on the audio design of the content/movie/show.

If this happens, you can try the "audio" button on your remote to see if it is better if you change to another type of audio, e.g., DTS or Stereo or Dolby. With some audio tracks, one mix may be leveled more than another.

"... supports extensive metadata, including dialog normalization and Dynamic Range Control."

Other than that, remote volume control is a possibility, if available in your setup.

You should bear in mind that with the improved audio possible with Blu-Ray discs, comes the possibility of a wider dynamic range between the softest and loudest parts of the audio, and some disks emphasize this, while others do not have such a wide dynamic range.

Posted on Mar 6, 2010 6:46:54 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Mar 6, 2010 6:47:46 AM PST
A M says:
Mike and Rose are wrong. If you were missing the center channel, you would essentially hear NO dialogue. 90% of dialogue is isolated in the center track. If his set up were playing only the Left and Right Channels, dialogue would not be soft, it would virtually non-existant.

The problem isn't in your player or TV. It is in your home. Movies are mixed to play in movie theaters. Theaters are designed to be acoustically dead spaces. Your living room is not. So when there is a dialogue scene, the soft audio waves are getting absorbed by your sofa, plants, people, etc rather than just reflecting off the walls. So you have to turn it up to hear. But the consequence is that it is now much to loud for an action scene. And there is so much going on that even though some of the waves are getting absorbed, because they are at a higher decibel level, they penetrate more.

The only real solution is to bring in an audio engineer to assess your living room and perhaps baffle the walls and remove some furniture. These are the kind of things that home theater enthusiasts don't realize and one of many reasons why movies are better in a theater than at home.

Otherwise you are stuck riding the volume like most people.

Posted on Mar 6, 2010 7:17:42 AM PST
C. Siterlet says:
AM is giving you a really technical answer, and while it is correct to a degree, there is a simple solution that can be done. go into your receiver's audio settings and boost the DB of the center channel. That way, your dialogue will be more even to the rest of the speakers.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 6, 2010 8:10:37 AM PST
EdM says:
I looked at this discussion this morning, and you did not say what sound system you are using, or if you are just using the Samsung plasma built in speakers. If so, the built in audio speakers for any thin screen HDTV are usually quite poor, especially for loud sounds. Loudness may cause audible unpleasant distortion and may distort the dialog, so you can't understand it as well. [Sammys have a worse reputation on average for built in sound; we don't know your specifics.]

If you don't have an external sound system of some kind, you might reconsider.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 6, 2010 9:41:26 AM PST
C. Gabriel says:
I am using and old Sherwood sound system I got from a friend the sound is not coming out of the TV I have that volume turned off. I think it may be what AM says and that the quality of sound is so much better in the Blu Ray even better than on a TV show with action scenes and explosions that I may just have to live with it and turn those scenes down if they get to loud, But I will try some of the other solutions. Its just that the voices are fine but when an action scene happens or music it seems to get REALLY loud. Is that most likely just the superior audio of the Blu Ray? Thanks all

Posted on Mar 6, 2010 11:08:12 AM PST
C. Siterlet says:
what kind of sound system is that? 2.0, 2.1, 5.1? how is it connected to the player? rca 2 channel or optical?

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 6, 2010 11:46:36 AM PST
KBIC says:
If the option is available set the center speaker volume up higher than the other speakers. That is if you have a center speaker. Having the manual for the Sherwood would help also. If you don't you can download it from Sherwood if you can find the model on the download page.

Posted on Mar 6, 2010 5:36:14 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Mar 6, 2010 5:36:52 PM PST
JG says:
Most 5.1 receivers have a system for tweaking the individual channel levels. As some of the others have said, check your manual and boost your center channel a few Db. I boosted mine and it's helped.

The audio mix on many 5.1 soundtracks aren't very well suited to home theater... I've found many films where the dialogue is smothered by the music and effects.

Posted on Mar 7, 2010 12:15:37 PM PST
C. Gabriel says:
I'll try all these suggestions but in general do you find that Blu Ray is louder in music, action scenes and normal in speech. Like I said before when watching movie on normal TV sound is the same throughout but on Blu Ray it is louder.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 7, 2010 12:22:33 PM PST
Superior audio does not equate to loudness. Try turning your subwoofer down or off to see if your audio gets clearer. If speech is fine until the very loud scenes, my first thought is that your speakers might be overdriven somewhere to introduce distortion. But then again, some movies are just mixed this way.

Posted on Mar 7, 2010 3:57:16 PM PST
Shawn says:
The loud explosions and similar "surprise" audio are intended to be much louder than the dialogue for effect.

Most decent receivers and BD players (including yours) have a Dynamic Range Compression (DRC) feature. In short, it reduces the range of the audio signal, but Google or Wiki it if you want to know more. Try enabling and/or adjusting that. Many will tell you it reduces the sound quality because the original uncompressed signal is intended to have that wide range, but if you're viewing at night and don't want to wake up the kids, or have to keep a death grip on the remote to constantly adjust the volume whenever anything happens, it comes in very handy.

Try that before you -"bring in an audio engineer to assess your living room and perhaps baffle the walls and remove some furniture"-

Posted on Mar 8, 2010 4:37:07 PM PST
The thing is, you go to the movie theaters, and if they set it up right the dialog is very clear whether there's an explosion going on the screen at the same time or not. And they don't use dynamic compression, or EQ the center channel in any way, to achieve this, which to me, decreases fidelity -- it goes against the ultimate objective.

Posted on Mar 8, 2010 7:19:59 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Mar 8, 2010 7:20:37 PM PST
A/V guru says:
quick question...

This "old Sherwood" it totally analog or does it have digital inputs (that you are using)?

IF the receiver has analog only, make sure you run the audio directly to it, not to the TV first (we haven't covered the set-up he has done).

If you have the Blu Ray set up to send 5.1 to the TV via HDMI, then having the TV send the audio to the receiver, all sorts of "crap" happens.

no matter how "old" the Sherwood is (I have friends who consider HDMI 1.1 to be "old"), it should be "reading" the signal from the Blu Ray just like it would a CD player, then you have to make sure the Blu Ray is set to send what the Sherwood can digest.

Posted on Mar 9, 2010 9:11:08 AM PST
mind has the same problem .

Posted on Mar 9, 2010 11:25:19 AM PST
K. Nelson says:
The issue may be the lossless audio. How is the audio getting to the receiver? Coax, optical, hdmi, discrete cables?

As others have eluded to; the audio on the blu-ray is meant to be as close to what the producer had in mind as possible. And that includes hearing normal conversation volumes and having explosions sound "real" relative to the voices. I'm sure there are very few hear who have been around many of these high dB explosions. Think about how loud a thunderstorm really is compared to normal conversation levels.

I also do not like this because of the vastly varying volume levels. I only notice this with lossless audio and not with the lossy DD or DTS. Try having the blu-ray player only output the lossy can guarantee this by using an optical cable between the player & receiver. If you don't have optical on one or the other then it will be a setup somewhere in one or both.
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