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Initial post: Jan 12, 2010 4:01:22 PM PST
i got simpsons season 2,hurt locker,i can do bad all by myself,postgrad and fame all in the stupid eco cases.more studios are doing this and last week darksliders for the 360 was in one.anyone else hate these cases like i do,i replace them with new cases

Posted on Jan 12, 2010 4:09:15 PM PST
Sheila (NJ) says:
What is an eco case? So far all the Blu-rays I bought came in blue plastic cases.

Posted on Jan 12, 2010 4:20:38 PM PST
a case that has holes cut out in in to save plastic

Posted on Jan 12, 2010 4:23:16 PM PST
completely agree. they are awful.

Posted on Jan 12, 2010 4:54:55 PM PST
A M says:
Why are they awful? I don't notice that there is less plastic when it is on the shelf or in my hand. The thing still feels sturdy when I pop the disc out. The pie cuts under the disc in no way hamper or impede my ability to access the disc. And if it uses less plastic - all the better?

Why do you hate them?

Posted on Jan 12, 2010 5:53:26 PM PST
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Rise2it says:
I miss music cds coming in a 15 inch tall cardboard package, but things change.

I have no problem with the 'eco' aspect of it - I have a big problem with the fact that what was once manufactured in the USA has now been outsourced, costing jobs.

Posted on Jan 12, 2010 10:30:18 PM PST
I agree 100% with Rise2it - Eco-conscious - Good; Outsourcing jobs that would otherwise help Americans and our economy - Bad.

Posted on Jan 13, 2010 12:44:29 AM PST
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Posted on Jan 13, 2010 12:45:17 AM PST
J. Evans says:
I agree. I do not like them. They feel flimsy and I worry that I will poke my fingers through the cover art. The intent was to use less plastic. However, the eco-package is having the exact opposite effect on the environment if people are doing what the original poster does, which is throw the eco case in the trash and replace it with a standard blu-ray case. So twice as much plastic is being used.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 13, 2010 1:29:21 AM PST
Afrobean says:
"the eco-package is having the exact opposite effect on the environment if people are doing what the original poster does, which is throw the eco case in the trash and replace it with a standard blu-ray case. So twice as much plastic is being used."

The studios don't care about that. They save money on the cases because they use less plastic. That's their angle. If the consumer wants to buy their own solid case, then the additional cost is passed on to the consumer (and then some, in the form of heavier markup from the case manufacturers), and the studio gets to hold on to a higher net gain on the guise of being "green".

If they were really ecological about it, they wouldn't use plastic at all. "But wait, isn't the disc plastic?" Yes. The disc is plastic. But look at how the Futurama DTV movies went "green". No plastic keepcase. The disc is plastic, yes, but the packaging was made entirely of paper. That's how you do ecologically friendly. Paper can be wasted without worry, it's easily renewable, provides good jobs (especially here in America), and its biodegradable. Plastic, on the other hand, is made of oil (which comes largely from the middle east), is not renewable, is not biodegradable, and is only used because it is cheap.

I am not a fan of the amaray-style "eco" cases. However, at the same time, I DO like the digipacks and digibooks. They're made of paper with a little plastic just for holding the disc. And frankly, I feel as though that plastic isn't even necessary either. Some people don't like it, but it is possible to have a hub to hold discs without using plastic. The Omen Blu-ray set I have uses a digipack style package, but instead of using the plastic to hold the disc, the discs are held by a little rubbery hub. And if you REALLY feel as though plastic is needed, only that center hub need be made of plastic. They don't need to use all the plastic they do in current digipack/digibook designs.

Posted on Jan 13, 2010 9:20:56 AM PST
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Posted on Jan 13, 2010 12:09:04 PM PST
Jake says:
I just don't see what's to hate about eco-cases. I've gotten one (1) shipped from Amazon that had a bit of a dent where something had managed to hit the case in a "blank" spot and rip the paper a bit, and that's it. The damage was no worse, and has happened no more frequently, than anything I've gotten with the regular types of case. They're simply not more prone to breakage, no matter what you might suspect. My UPS delivery guy likes to throw packages up the stairs instead of waiting for me to meet him at the door, and the eco-cases have turned out fine, just like the rest.

They're lighter, so they *feel* flimsier, and that's it. No difference except for that, as far as I've seen.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 13, 2010 12:23:28 PM PST
That is a common myth, outsourcing actually INCREASES jobs in the US. According to The World Is Flat 3.0: A Brief History of the Twenty-first Century, the more jobs go overseas more businesses are formed that can hire Americans to do other jobs that cannot be outsourced. The book is very informative and explains this in much better detail than myself.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 13, 2010 1:14:28 PM PST
Dougie,

In other words, outsourcing turns my computer consulting position into a janitorial job? And the company outsourcing the work is now getting inferior and inefficient quality. Cool, that is progress!

Posted on Jan 13, 2010 1:37:48 PM PST
A M says:
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Posted on Jan 13, 2010 1:43:08 PM PST
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A M,

I have personally trained my outsourced replacements at my previous contract so I know from personal experience. They were lovely and good people who did not have the technical and communicative experience I have.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 13, 2010 2:05:57 PM PST
Then that's solely the fault of American companies not hiring the right people with technical and communicative experience, not "outsourcing". There are plenty of well-educated people in China, or Africa, for that matter. Either way, anecdotes can't be generalized.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 13, 2010 2:33:08 PM PST
Who was generalizing? I was making a joke using a specific example from my experience. I am not allowed to relay my person experience through joke form (albeit sarcastic)?

In my travels I have worked with people of Pakistani, Indian, Chinese, Korean, and Nigerian descent and I treated them all on an individual level, not as an Indian, etc. Many of them remain very good friends, as well as my best friend being in one of those groups.

What horrible nasty generalization did I make? That I was replaced by cheaper, less experienced people? Whoopdi doo. That is the nature of my job, and I went on to another assignment. I am certainly allowed to talk about my experience. Or do you wish to censor me?

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 13, 2010 3:03:38 PM PST
>> In other words, outsourcing turns my computer consulting position into a janitorial job? And the company outsourcing the work is now getting inferior and inefficient quality. Cool, that is progress!

So do you actually have a janitorial job now? Okay, I apologize for misunderstanding the scope of your post -- actually, wait... I don't have anything to be sorry for. If you're going to claim to have a sense of humor, don't post an exaggerated overreaction to what other people say.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 13, 2010 3:19:27 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Jan 13, 2010 3:30:23 PM PST
>> What do I have to apologize for?

Nothing.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 13, 2010 3:47:21 PM PST
On a serious note, the Bangladesh group were very nice people. I did get to meet a handful of the group when they came to the states for training. Not going to mention anything that would give up who the employer was... For three reasons (1) it would be wrong (2) I liked them, I harbor no ill feelings and (3) I would welcome the chance for another assignment with them.

And to balance my experience out a little, I was an out of state contractor on my assignment directly before that and was replaced by cheaper local contractors after a year. That was always the plan, and the company was nice enough to keep me on an additional year basically as thanks for the work I did the first year. I was very thankful because so many of my peers were being laid off at the time (2002). They took care of me, even though they replaced me long term.

So I have been replaced by both locals and outsourcing. Se la vie.

Posted on Jan 14, 2010 5:36:23 AM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Jan 14, 2010 9:52:54 AM PST
Watcher says:
Where'd you buy them from, Rick?

Posted on Jan 14, 2010 9:58:03 AM PST
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