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In reply to an earlier post on Apr 3, 2012 6:45:55 AM PDT
I adored Judy Tyler. Her tragic early death still haunts me. I was a child when she died, but I still remember reading that awful headline! BTW, I loved the recent Encores production. Wonderfully done!!

Posted on Apr 9, 2012 11:38:27 PM PDT
Robby says:
"Gantry" wasn't THAT bad. It had Robert Shaw in the lead (he was good) and Rita Moreno as Sister Sharon, maybe one of the greatest examples of miscasting ever. The problem was-Gantry was a perfect subject for a musical-gospel, revival numbers, serious moments, and it was a failure- shoulda...coulda....wasn't.

Posted on Apr 9, 2012 11:42:39 PM PDT
Robby says:
Saw a benefit for 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue on Broadway. First Lady Betty Ford came out on stage during intermission and said "My, aren't we having a wonderful time". The silence was deafening! There is a reason why Yiddish is considered a very expressive language. One Yiddish word summed up that entire show.......Oy.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 10, 2012 5:22:25 AM PDT
I'm also Jewish and I felt that way about "Ari."

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 10, 2012 5:36:36 AM PDT
Joe Hart says:
I'm an ex-baptist and felt that way about "Fiddler"!

Posted on Apr 13, 2012 6:43:22 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 13, 2012 6:50:04 PM PDT
GaryAve says:
I've seen a number of "flops", including Rodgers and Harnick's "Rex", "Seven Brides for Seven Brothers," and the previously mentioned "Copperfield." I went to "Copperfield" with great enthusiasm as a long-term Dickens fan, and came away pretty disappointed. There was one amusing number I can remember, "We'll Go Climbing Up the Ladder" and an incomprehensible first act curtain waltz called something like "Circles and Spaces." I later knew someone who'd been in "Copperfield" and I admitted to her that I had no idea what "Circles and Spaces" was about, and she admitted "Nobody did."

I've seen a couple productions of "Candide" and, though it has an extraordinary score, somehow I always find that wading through the story betwen musical numbers is a chore, a characteristic I think it shares with "Godspell."

My favorite flop, I think, is probably one which I've never seen. In a bargain bin, I once came across a selection of old non-selling musicals, including "She Loves Me," a wonderful show (which I have managed to catch on stage a couple times). But I've always had a soft spot for "Baker Street", a Sherlock Holmes musical which was apparently a ghastly mess. However, I'm a Sherlock fan, and the music, though not Sondheim, is often great fun, and it had an impressive cast.

My daughter, age ten, recently developed an enthusiasm for musicals and generally has one playing every night at bedtime. "Baker Street" is one of her favorites.

Posted on Apr 13, 2012 7:30:42 PM PDT
Who saw Oh! Brother!? A great, funny cast with Judy Kaye, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio, Alan Weeks. I did and absolutely loved it.

And who saw King of Hearts?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 14, 2012 4:34:54 AM PDT
I saw King of Hearts and liked it very much. Don Scardino was wonderful and Millicent Martin terrific. It was a shame that the newspaper strike contributed to its demise. I had the LP for years and would kill for a CD of the score. Do you know if there is such a thing?
Has anyone else seen La Strada with Bernadette Peters and Larry Kert. I found a Cd in London of four songs from the show albeit by other performers, if anyone is intrested.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 14, 2012 4:47:13 AM PDT
Joe Hart says:
The fact that the music in "Baker Street" is "...not Sondheim..." is one of its most endearing features!

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 14, 2012 5:25:26 AM PDT
I have the CD of King of Hearts. Bruce Yeko and his Take Home Tunes & Original Cast Records produced a CD (THT CD 9225) in 1992. A rather nice recording. "Nothing Only Love" originally sung by Scardino and Pam "Tits & Ass" Blair turns into a beautiful quartet for them and Millicent Martin and Bob Gunton.

This is one show I really regret not having seen.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 14, 2012 5:35:00 AM PDT
Wow, Kurt. That's great. I will try to get in touch with Take HomeTunes to see if I can buy a copy. Thanks for this 411.
BTW- Any chance you saw Carmelina. A favorite show of mine that I wish Encores would produce. Patti L would be terrific in the Georia Brown title role.

Posted on Apr 14, 2012 5:46:03 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 14, 2012 6:02:09 AM PDT
Joe Hart says:
3 of my favorite flops (not that I listen to shows anymore, particularly after having gone to NYC and seen a few) were "Take Me Along", "Me & Juliet" and (especially, consider it his masterpiece) "Mr. President" (without the finale). I like humble shows.

PS Realize "Annie" is supposed to be Berlin's best. I never agreed. Only like "You Can't Get A Man", "Doin' What Comes", "Who Do You Love, I Hope", "I Got Lost In His Arms" and "Moonshine Lullaby". I don't like another tune in the thing! "LA Purchase" (revived on CD some time ago) is terrific though.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 14, 2012 5:47:29 AM PDT
Sure hope the recording is still available.

Was I Remember Mama recorded? And what about Bring Back Birdie. Or Something's Afoot? Not that I think any of these would fall into anyone's Favorite Flop Musical, but they certainly seem to be on people's "I saw this bomb" list!

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 14, 2012 5:53:53 AM PDT
Joe Hart says:
Momma" was recorded with Sally Ann Howes and George Hearn (studio cast) and isn't all that bad. Clever lyrics by Martin Charnin. Read it was Rodgers' wish to live to see it on CD.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 14, 2012 12:16:03 PM PDT
I'm puzzled by your choice of Anya over Fiddler. You say you stood between two theaters trying to pick a show: Anya (which played the Ziegfeld over on 6th Avenue at 54th Street) and Fiddler (which would have still been at the Imperial Theatre on West 45th Street). How did you manage that trick? You also assert you picked Anya since Bock and Harnick were unknown composers. By the time of Fiddler, they had written 4 Broadway shows together, including She Loves Me and Fiorello (which won the Pulitzer). Additionally, by the time Anya limped into town, Fiddler had been running over a year and won 9 Tony Awards, including Best Musical and Best Composer/Lyricist. Bock and Harnick were pretty much white hot in 1965 when you saw Anya. Your story makes no sense.

Posted on Apr 14, 2012 5:26:52 PM PDT
Kate B says:
Musical: MACK AND MABEL. Saw it closing night with a gallant Robert Preston and a crying Bernadette Peters at the curtain. Yes, in some ways Jerry Herman was reprising HELLO DOLLY!, but the score is lovely, Preston, Peters and Lisa Kirk were troupers, Jerry Dodge and Robert Fitch lent fine support, and the story of Mack Sennett and Mabel Normand and early Hollywood reminded you of the magic of silent movies--THE ARTIST of its time.

Drama: THE LEAF PEOPLE. A Joseph Papp/New York Shakespeare Festival play that opened on Broadway in the wake of the Broadway transfer of A CHORUS LINE, THE LEAF PEOPLE ran a week (saw it at its closing matinee--I'm really not theatre's Typhoid Mary, it just works out that way). A large cast including many children, and an intricate, beautifully designed set contributed to a huge loss of money for Papp and the Festival.

The story of an undiscovered tribe featured Grayson Hall and Anthony Holland as anthropological narrators, and had a cast including Lane Smith, Raymond J. Barry, Roy Brocksmith and Tom Aldredge who had and continued to have distinguished careers.

Posted on Apr 16, 2012 12:00:36 AM PDT
Ah ... does anyone else remember WIND IN THE WILLOWS? It played at the Nederlander Theater in the winter of 1985. It opened on December 19th and closed December 22nd--just four performances. It was never recorded, to the best of my knowledge, but did have a lovely score--especially the title song. Trivia buffs will remember that it was Nathan Lane's second Broadway musical (the first being MERLIN, in 1983). He played Toad, and stole the show. Vicki Lewis was also featured in the show, playing MOLE. While it should never be revived on Broadway, even if it were extensively reworked, it could have a second life as good choice for high school musicals.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 17, 2012 4:57:39 PM PDT
misterposter says:
I never thought I would be interested in "Taboo" so avoided it when I had an opportunity and could have gone. Then, long after it had closed, I saw the DVD "Show Business" (available here for around $9). The DVD was a "making of" documentary about "Wicked", "Avenue Q", "Caroline, or Change", and "Taboo". I found the documentary very interesting and, of course, regretted not having seen "Taboo".

Posted on Apr 17, 2012 5:07:40 PM PDT
misterposter says:
"Mack and Mabel" a show with a terrific score, excellent cast (Preston & Peters) and a not so terrific book. "Minnie's Boys" (story of the Marx Brothers), a pretty decent score, fair book and a terribly miscast Shelly Winters a Minnie. And recently (2011) "Death Takes A Holiday", a show which I believe had all the elements of a "classic" Broadway show - except an audience (maybe it was too old fashioned).

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 17, 2012 5:21:37 PM PDT
I saw "Death Takes A Holiday" last summer and I thought it was terrific. I am so glad they recorded it. By the way, I believe the Musical Theater Guild here in Los Angeles will be presenting it in staged reading type performance this coming season.

Posted on Apr 21, 2012 7:00:06 AM PDT
Joe Hart says:
I think "Jamaica" (was it a flop?) has a terrific Arlen score, Harburg so-so and pretentious as usual - think Horne and Montalban do great jobs - only have the cast album - never saw it - met Lehman Engel once though -

Posted on Jul 4, 2012 7:00:05 PM PDT
smzop says:
Hot September, a musical version of the play "Picnic", tried out in Boston in 1965. The show sold out for its run. The critics hated it. Eliot Norton of the Record-American wrote that if it was successful it would put the American musical theater back where it was before Oklahoma. The audience loved it. The score was fantastic composed by unknowns. Joshua Logan directed.It closed when its Boston run ended. I would love to see this show again.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 4, 2012 8:30:34 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 4, 2012 8:31:27 PM PDT
misterposter says:
The show "Hot September" was scheduled for the Shubert Theatre but closed before completing the out of town tryouts. The "name" performer in the cast was Eddie Bracken and there was actually a cast recording released. The vinyl LP, which has never been transferred to CD, does show up occasionally on the big auction site.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 4, 2012 10:25:27 PM PDT
Joe Hart says:
Stories like yours make me furious at critics. And if it would have put it back before "Oklahoma!", does that mean that it wasn't integrated, was just a jokes, girls, song and dance show? Because (with few exceptions, like "Show Boat"), that is what was before "Oklahoma!".

Posted on Sep 3, 2012 3:20:31 PM PDT
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