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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 11, 2012 3:43:15 AM PDT
G. says:
Oh yum, that sounds GOOD!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 11, 2012 5:32:31 AM PDT
It is good. I made two for a Memorial Day brunch. Do you know how small a Key Lime is? It's about the size of an extra large marble. Do you know how many of those suckers you have to squeeze to make two pies?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 11, 2012 3:59:55 PM PDT
G. says:
A big wow, because I though they were the size of regular lemons? You are SUPER-Nana if you are dealing with marble sized citrus fruits? I would be buying the squeezed bottles (if available). Darn it, you are dedicated! :)

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 11, 2012 4:37:18 PM PDT
Yuk, yuk, yuk. Bottle lemon or lime? No mam! Fresh every time.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2012 12:52:04 AM PDT
G. says:
Good for you Nana! The finished product is probably worth the hard work. Yum!

Posted on Jun 12, 2012 4:57:45 PM PDT
Do you feel like the little boy putting his finger in the dyke? We keep plugging up the hole but the ocean keeps pouring in.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2012 5:13:18 PM PDT
Ms. P. says:
I think that's what they're hoping for. Why, I don't know. It's not like people come to hang out in a floodplain to see what they have to offer, but ...

Posted on Jun 13, 2012 5:59:45 AM PDT
It's a fresh day, I've got a hot cup of coffee in my hand, and I'm in a good mood. I wonder how long it'll be before a spammer shows up? Anyone interested in a pool? I'll put up a spamming author pinata as a prize to the poster who is closest to being right.

Okay, here's my guess: today at 11:30 am

Posted on Jun 13, 2012 6:25:51 PM PDT
Ms. P. says:
Thought I'd come for the evening send to the top.

Posted on Jun 14, 2012 11:27:28 AM PDT
*Banging head against wall*

Much cheaper than throwing my Kindle!

Posted on Jun 16, 2012 5:31:06 AM PDT
Another beautiful day. Sending this to the top.

Posted on Jun 17, 2012 7:30:53 PM PDT
cathyr says:
It seems pointless to move it to the top when there are only 5 active threads, but since three of them were spammed today...

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 18, 2012 1:49:42 PM PDT
G. says:
There is one author who has already spammed at least three of the threads with her book "Gigi has diabetes" or something to that effect. Just wow.

Posted on Jun 18, 2012 2:47:25 PM PDT
I've been away from my computer for 24 hours. Look what I missed. *sigh* I sometimes feel like we're stacking sandbags and hoping that they will be enough to stop the 'Tidal Wave' from washing us away.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 18, 2012 3:04:29 PM PDT
The reading level works like this. The first number is the grade level the second is month. Based on what you are saying she is probably reading at about 1.5 to 1.8. A good rule of thumb is pick a page and have her read the words if she has trouble with 5 or more words move to a lower level. At least that is what I was told.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 18, 2012 3:13:27 PM PDT
G. says:
Thanks Patricia. The "values" tend to confuse me. Her (my first grader) end of year reading level ended up being on an entirely different scale? It rated around the third grade level, but it was on a very weird scale? The fact that I had to use an online "legend" to decifer her reading level? Sheesh. Parents aren't teachers; I wish it could be spelled out for us. I have been part of the military community for some time, and tend to use "military speak" and have to stop and remind myself that not everyone gets military acronyms. Thanks for your post and explanation :).

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 18, 2012 4:55:00 PM PDT
cathyr says:
Sandbags you say? Of the 11 currently active threads, 8 have been spammed in the last 12 hours.

It is irritating to try and get conversations going with people dropping their spam in the midst. *sigh* Feels like an uphill battle.

"Gigi has diabetes" was spammed in 5 of those threads.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 18, 2012 7:15:57 PM PDT
I know. I saw and was irritated as all get out. WTH? I'm shutting down the computer and reading for the rest of the evening. See you, G, and the others tomorrow.

Posted on Jun 19, 2012 4:50:45 PM PDT
cathyr says:
Goodness. A forum starts to get itself going and *BAM* it's spammed. At least the Amazon bot caught some of them.

But now we have all these resurrected threads which will get recs no one is interested in anymore, participants won't get responses, and they'll wander off. Very hard to keep it going and viable.

It really makes me think about what was managed with Romance and Top Reviewers. Interesting threads on MOA get pushed down by "read my book!". KBf is being swamped by Splinter's odd-ball threads. And anywhere else I wander seems either dead or spam. (Not exactly fair - there are plenty of threads that are still active and interesting, I just don't go there. I have enough to keep up with with the few fora I read).

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 5:40:18 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 19, 2012 6:00:26 PM PDT
Ms. P. says:
There are several dozen "commonly used" scales for determining "grade level" in reading, and it is practically impossible for someone who doesn't use a particular scale to figure it out. Outside of the commonly used scales, different school districts sometimes have their own systems, or use multiple ones. Often, a number with a decimal DOES mean the grade level and the month, but even then, depending on where that number CAME from, it can mean different things.

Even with eleven years of teaching experience, and working as both a literacy coach and a reading specialist, AND having a Master's degree in Education with an emphasis in Literacy, if you just throw a number at me for a child's "reading level," it's mostly meaningless, unless you can tell me what scale was used to come up with that number.

Sometimes, publishers will put a number like 1.8 or GL 3 on the back of a book, but those are hugely unreliable, and are often just made up by the publisher for marketing purposes.

As a parent, it's best not to worry about "reading levels" at all, and follow a few rules of thumb.

a.) As close to 100% as possible of non-school reading should be completely enjoyable, and most of it should be self-selected by the child (sometimes with assistance, of course).

b.) There's no such thing as too easy. If it is a book the child has selected for reading at home, there is no such thing as too easy. When their own little brain finds it boring, the interest will turn off all by itself. Until then "too easy" builds fluency and repetition, and satisfies an innate need a child's brain has for patterning and order and a multitude of other things.

c.) "Too hard" is not as hard as you think it is. In order to build reading fluency and to move to the "next level" of reading, children should be reading at 95-100% accuracy. This means that no more than ONCE every twenty words or so, should a child have to stop to sound out a word, or deal with a word they don't understand the meaning of (even if they can pronounce it).
Put it in adult terms - if you had to stop reading a novel THREE times EVERY page to figure out either the pronunciation or the meaning of a word, your brain would frustrate out, too. Too hard slows down reading growth. Too easy speeds it up.

d.) There's are exceptions to the "too hard" rule. If it's a book where interest is over-the-top high -- as in you have to fight them to get them to put it down, then let them go for it, offering assistance when needed, and intervening before a frustration point. And, of course, if it's a read aloud where they're snuggled in your lap or listening to a well-narrated audiobook -- by all means go for "too hard."

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 6:00:47 PM PDT
cathyr says:
Can we split this off into a different thread? I'm sure it would interest a number of people and add to the forum as a whole.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 6:02:49 PM PDT
Ms. P. says:
Sure. :)

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 8:43:49 PM PDT
I second Cathyr's request. I had no idea where the recommended grade level came from and it's disheartening to know that they're basically useless. I think your post was timely and informative.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 20, 2012 1:54:56 AM PDT
G. says:
Thanks for all the info TM! I think your advice is very important and I also think you should post this as it's own thread ;)

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 25, 2012 2:35:04 PM PDT
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