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10 Year old girl raped in Mexico by her step-father... abort? Catholics? Anyone?


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Initial post: Apr 20, 2010 5:35:54 PM PDT
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Posted on Apr 20, 2010 5:42:12 PM PDT
Pathfinder says:
Cream of Weber.... common sense should prevail but very little of that exists today. Her step-father should be shot and she should be given an abortion. The church... once again common sense should prevail but obviously it doesn't exist.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 20, 2010 5:49:44 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 20, 2010 5:51:50 PM PDT
Me says:
Consider excommunication from the Roman Catholic Church a blessing. (p.s. I am a Christian)

Posted on Apr 20, 2010 6:01:37 PM PDT
Gee... and I've been told that pedophilia isn't a problem, just homosexuality. Odd.

And I would certainly permit her to have an abortion. She's a child, for goodness sake. She's not ready for the pain and the effort of birthing a child, let alone raising it. Child birth is also, from what I understand, much more dangerous for children (of that general age) than it is for teenagers/adults. Finally, I find it repugnant, on a personal level, to obligate any woman to carry her rapists child.

Posted on Apr 20, 2010 6:14:22 PM PDT
Me says:
No one has ever said pedophilia is not a problem, unless you are referring to the Roman Catholic Church, in which it, in and of itself, is a problem..

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 20, 2010 6:19:40 PM PDT
S. Friedman says:
I passed a sign today on a church lawn. It stated 'children are a gift from god'.
I think god's choice of giftwrap is appalling.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 20, 2010 6:22:17 PM PDT
I've been having a discussion with someone on another thread who is more concerned with eradicating homosexuality than pedophilia. This person somehow thinks pedophilia will die with homosexuality -- this case is exactly why he's wrong. Pedophilia is a concern regardless of sexuality. Indeed, most psychologists seem to think it is its own sexuality (separate from homosexuality, heterosexuality, bisexuality, etc.).

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 20, 2010 6:28:28 PM PDT
Me says:
Hard to "eradicate" a legal act (homosexuality) outside of divine intervention. They are both sins against God and God will deal with them in His own way and time.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 20, 2010 6:32:54 PM PDT
I'm sure.

Either way, my point is simply that pedophilia is a problem on its own, distinct from any "problem" of homosexuality. This case proves that.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 20, 2010 6:35:47 PM PDT
Me says:
Not sure if this case proves your point as many homosexuals are child molesters or have at least engaged in sexual acts with minors.

Posted on Apr 20, 2010 6:36:09 PM PDT
neonpisces says:
> 10 Year old girl raped in Mexico by her step-father

You're not giving away much in the way of facts. Is she actually pregnant? At ten years old?

So far as Dad is concerned, I'd toss him into general population in one of our more illustrious penal institutions...and see how things develop for him for the next day or two.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 20, 2010 6:41:15 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 20, 2010 6:47:05 PM PDT
"Many"? Where do you get that?

And anyway, even if "many" homosexuals engage in pedophilia, my point was that pedophilia is a problem distinct from homosexuality. That is, if there was no such thing as homosexuality, there would still be pedophilia.

Incidentally, according to the Counter Pedophilia Investigative Unit, 75% of pedophilia victims are female. Likewise, the vast majority of reported cases of pedophilia (upwards of 90%) were perpetrated by men. So, logically, we should conclude that most cases of pedophilia involve men molesting girls.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 20, 2010 6:42:51 PM PDT
Do you enjoy springing a headline like this upon people ?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 20, 2010 8:01:02 PM PDT
Bradley, Yes, kill an innocent fetus. That is indeed common sense! Peace

Posted on Apr 20, 2010 8:03:12 PM PDT
says:
Yes, I do think the step-father should be aborted.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 20, 2010 8:09:59 PM PDT
Ava Anathema says:
The "innocent fetus" will never be the wiser, and the girl will not be forced to carry a child that was forced into her in a terrible way. She is a child, for crying out loud. She should be considered here more than anyone else, since she is a living, breathing human being and can see and feel and hear all that is occurring. At this point, the fetus cannot experience all that she can, and does not take center stage. Besides, if there IS a God and he is so powerful and this fetus needs to be born so badly, then according to most people, this God would be all powerful and able to do anything, even to the point of putting this same baby into a womb that can actually carry it!

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 20, 2010 8:14:23 PM PDT
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Lea, never the wiser, but all the "deader", and as tragic as this is, to kill an innocent baby is tragic as well. This poor and so sadly abused little girl could carry to term and give up for adoption and then counseled, but all life, not just those who are older than others, should be considered. Peace

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 20, 2010 8:18:17 PM PDT
The VG forum is obviously getting a bit dull. When they get around to worrying about the fat in KFC's food and if KFC should be sued for it, there's bound to be a few posters sneaking over over to the Christianity forum for a little action.

It's still a legitimate question though. Even if nobody likes to discuss the real evil in the world, it's still there.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 20, 2010 8:23:49 PM PDT
So you feel that with counseling this little girl could 'get over' being abused and carrying a baby to term?

How does counseling help a 10 year kid old push out a full size baby without serious injury? In Mexico?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 20, 2010 10:27:39 PM PDT
Ava Anathema says:
I never said those who are older should be considered. I said those who are living independently (meaning not dependent on another's body to sustain life), thinking, reasoning, etc. Do you really think it is moral to make a 10 year old girl carry a baby to term? She might even die trying, either from pregnancy complications or even possibly during birth. Sure, in this day and age we have less chance but in this case the chance for complications would be greater. I am all for life, I do not like abortion either, but in my opinion, this is a case where someone will lose and I don't think the poor girl should, she has been through enough already. That's the problem with these issues, there are always those who can't seem to see that life is not black and white, and that life can be cruel. Let's not make it any crueler to this girl.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 20, 2010 10:32:32 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Apr 20, 2010 10:35:55 PM PDT
Astrin Ymris says:
Cream of Weber,

Re: "...The church saw fit to excommunicate her, her mother and the doctors..."

No, the Church didn't excommunicate the 9-year-old-- because of the Church's "benevolence" to minors. Somewhere, an Irony Meter is breaking...

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 20, 2010 10:38:17 PM PDT
Astrin Ymris says:
anne,

Re: "...If a female is old enough to get pregnant, isn't she old enough to deliver a baby?..."

No.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 20, 2010 10:42:51 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 20, 2010 10:48:58 PM PDT
anne says:
Astrin,

Could you expound on that, please?

Are you saying a female old enough to get pregnant but not old enough to deliver a baby, I hope you don't think I mean "old enough to have a baby".

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 20, 2010 10:48:55 PM PDT
Oregongirl says:
It isn't a matter of being old enough. Her young body has to nourish 2 children at the same time. When the pregnant child takes in nourishment, her body and the developing fetus will compete for the food. Also, her birth canal simply isn't big enough for a baby to pass through safely.

And, I've had children and know for a fact that the birth itself can be terrifying. Since I'm an adult, and the decision to have the baby was mine (and my husbands), my coping skills were mature enough to handle the ordeal. It still was hell though.
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