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When someone uses the term "True Christian" , what does that mean to you?


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Initial post: Nov 28, 2012 10:12:31 AM PST
King's Kid says:
Does the hair on the back of your neck stand up and you're shouting at the screen?

Or do you sit back and assume they're talking about you?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 10:14:13 AM PST
DocMMV says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 10:21:32 AM PST
I've seen many of your friends here on these forums use the words true christian at least a thousand times. They seem to think it only applies to you and them and a few other people in all the world.

Posted on Nov 28, 2012 10:22:01 AM PST
Newbomb Turk says:
I assume they're differentiating their own (obviously true) beliefs with another denomination's.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 10:23:08 AM PST
Max Flash says:
It is an indication to me that someone is trying to distance themselves from other Christians.

Posted on Nov 28, 2012 10:30:34 AM PST
Art Franklin says:
Well, most Christians are salad bar Christians that pick and choose only the feel-good parts of the Bible, or pretend that the New Testament is all that matters.

True Christians believe in every part of the Bible, because Jesus said that every jot and tittle of the Law will never pass away until the end of time.

This is an important distinction because there are hundreds of variant sects of Christianity with thousands of divergent belief sets. Therefore it stands to reason that the "True" Christians are those that conform most with the source material.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 10:35:25 AM PST
Max Flash says:
Art Franklin: Therefore it stands to reason that the "True" Christians are those that conform most with the source material.

Max: If there was an objective way to understand the source material I'd agree with you. Given that there isn't, it is impossible to make an objective evaluation of who conforms most with it.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 10:38:36 AM PST
That means he is an *absolute* idiot rather than a simple imbecile.

Posted on Nov 28, 2012 10:42:39 AM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 10:53:49 AM PST
Art Franklin says:
"Max: If there was an objective way to understand the source material I'd agree with you. Given that there isn't, it is impossible to make an objective evaluation of who conforms most with it. "

AF: It is possible to make subjective comparisons. For example, Mormons consider themselves Christians. However, they cannot qualify as True Christians because there is nothing in the Bible about Lamanites. In other words, we can at least compare based upon a spectrum. Catholics pray to graven images which is anti-Biblical, so Catholics are unlikely to be True Christians as well. See how this works? It's not rocket science.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 10:55:13 AM PST
The Bible is nothing more that toilet paper with words.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 10:56:47 AM PST
Art Franklin: Therefore it stands to reason that the "True" Christians are those that conform most with the source material.

Do you mean those people that take the bible the most literally? Like you have to truly believe that a snake talked to Eve, a guy actually did walk on water, etc..?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 10:57:42 AM PST
King's Kid says:
That's the fastest I've ever ignored someone in the forum. You're a special kind of offensive.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 10:58:59 AM PST
You say that as if the very existence of Christianity is not offensive.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 11:00:55 AM PST
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Go ahead and tell us your beef, I know you'll get to it sooner or later anyway. Bad childhood? Raised by fundamentalists? Raised by atheists?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 11:02:40 AM PST
Max Flash says:
Art Franklin: See how this works?

Max: Yes, subjectively. Catholics and Mormons would obviously disagree with you. Without an objective determination, all three opinions are equally valid.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 11:02:53 AM PST
Nope, just fed up with stupid people.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 11:04:15 AM PST
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Does that produce a lot of self-loathing?

(Somebody got zapped)

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 11:05:42 AM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 11:07:00 AM PST
King's Kid says:
It's nice to know that phillip pearson joins us in our loathing of him.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 11:08:12 AM PST
Loathing of me? Oh, now that's very Christian of you.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 2:16:32 PM PST
Art Franklin says:
"Do you mean those people that take the bible the most literally? Like you have to truly believe that a snake talked to Eve, a guy actually did walk on water, etc..? " - prunella jones

Good question. Personally my definition of a True Christian would believe that Jesus really did walk on water, but the Genesis story is better read as a parable so I can see either direction on that one.

But both of those examples are IN the Bible. What I'm getting at is that a person defined as TRUE should be paying attention to the words that were written. If Jesus says that rich people have almost no chance to gain the Kingdom of God and you see a preacher telling you that prayer will make you monetarily rich, there is little room for interpretation: that preacher is probably greedy and full of garbage.

Also, I would think that somebody defined as a True Christian should strive to behave in a Christlike manner, no? Since Jesus was a Socialist Jew, all the Capitalist politicians are automatically disqualified no matter what church they belong to.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 2:20:49 PM PST
mrs exp says:
Art Franklin,
I believe there are "true Christians" in every church but only God knows who they are.
exp

Posted on Nov 28, 2012 3:21:35 PM PST
G. Howard says:
You must believe the Gospel which is plainly laid out in 1 Cor 15 1-4

1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

After believing the truth of the Gospel, grace saves and opens the Christians' eyes. This line from the hymn Solid Rock pretty much sums up the belief of a "True Christian". "My hope is built on nothing less. Than Jesus' blood and righteousness."

Salvation comes through the person of Jesus, and not an act of religion. One must be reconciled to God through him or their not in Christ, or a "True Christian".

That would be my definition.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2012 3:51:24 PM PST
i assume that 99.99% of them are clueless
and are spouting the propaganda their brand name fed them
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