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Initial post: Mar 11, 2013 2:29:23 AM PDT
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Charles says:
In a world of competition, why would anyone wish to handicap their children by teaching them fables instead of facts.

http://www.alternet.org/5-kids-bravely-fighting-christian-domination-their-schools

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 11, 2013 3:45:13 AM PDT
BV says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Mar 11, 2013 3:56:33 AM PDT
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Charles says:
I hope so, it would be great to see non religious ppl with brains, in office. We don't need anymore born again liars like Bush or Obama in control anymore.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 11, 2013 5:11:05 AM PDT
M. Galishoff says:
Charles

try reading and understanding Moby Dick or numerous other works of great literature, try understanding history and philosophy etc without knowing Scripture. You can't.

Posted on Mar 11, 2013 5:46:58 AM PDT
Charles says:
M. Galishoff says:
"rature, try understanding history and philosophy etc without knowing Scripture. You can't."

That is ridiculous, many people of other lands, that have never read your books, enjoy these tales.

You need to leave fairy tale land and come to reality.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 11, 2013 10:56:15 AM PDT
M. Galishoff says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Mar 11, 2013 11:00:38 AM PDT
I would prefer that children were helped to acquire wisdom rather than being taught facts.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 11, 2013 11:46:22 AM PDT
BV says:
Here - "I would prefer that children were helped to acquire wisdom rather than being taught facts."

Very good, and nothing does it like Proverbs!

Posted on Mar 11, 2013 12:03:03 PM PDT
G. Howard says:
I agree children should be taught critical thinking skills. Telling a child molecules to man evolution is a fact with no evidence is a stupid religous dogma.

A creation account involving a creator, or the religion of natural means only are both philosophical pursuits. Neither are based on emperical science.

It's a matter of how unobserved evidence is interpreted to construct worldviews. Worldviews help people determine their moral obligations, and helps them understand purpose or meaning to life.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 11, 2013 12:06:52 PM PDT
M. Galishoff says:
G Howard

rather narrow minded and intolerant response eh? :-(

Posted on Mar 11, 2013 12:09:57 PM PDT
M. Galishoff says:
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Smooth says:
The Holy Bible is true, as evidenced by the fulfillment of hundreds of prophecies already and the continuing fulfillment of prophecies as we speak. Also, creatures reproduce according to kind, just like the Bible says, and creatures are not evolving according to the wive's tale of Darwinian evolution. Read Testing the Spirits: Exposing Dark Sayings & Embracing the Light of Jesus, by Sabin Geyman.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 11, 2013 12:14:37 PM PDT
Smooth says:
Exactly right. Why don't the atheists just say understand math without math! It makes no sense. No, we should endeavor to understand Bible prophecy in terms of Bible knowledge (very important) and a sense of history and current events.

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In reply to an earlier post on Mar 11, 2013 12:49:04 PM PDT
Charles says:
LOLOLOL mindless ppl.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 11, 2013 12:50:57 PM PDT
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Charles says:
but it's the religious nut that need the help , not the atheists

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 11, 2013 12:52:24 PM PDT
Charles says:
I have a challenge for you.

show me Jesus.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 11, 2013 1:11:27 PM PDT
M. Galishoff says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Mar 11, 2013 1:20:12 PM PDT
Charles says:
In your dreams , but since there is no Jesus, not in this or any other reality !

You're a church puppet, and that's shameful. You are wasting a good brain that God gave you and filling it with trash.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 11, 2013 2:06:56 PM PDT
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Ambulocetus says:
"The Holy Bible is true, as evidenced by the fulfillment of hundreds of prophecies already and the continuing fulfillment of prophecies as we speak. Also, creatures reproduce according to kind, just like the Bible says, and creatures are not evolving according to the wive's tale of Darwinian evolution."

Apparently, you are well versed in the theory of evolution. Can you tell us what particular part of it you take exception to? Is it the treatment of variation? Of differential reproductive success? Of allopatric speciation? Or perhaps you have problems with the genetic assumptions. Do you not buy how contemporary biologists talk about gene flow? Does the Hardy-Weinberg equilibrium seem wrong to you? Or maybe the Modern Synthesis is okay with you, but not the developments that came after, like symbiogenesis, inclusive fitness, punctuated equilibrium, or the neutral theory of molecular evolution.

Or perhaps you have never learned the theory of evolution at all, and instead reject it without knowing the first thing about it, preferring instead to take literally a creation account which prominently features a talking snake.

If "creatures reproduce according to kind," and if "creatures are not evolving," how, pray tell, do you explain insects developing insecticide resistance, bacteria developing antibiotic resistance, or the odd geographical distribution of lactose intolerance in different regions of the globe?
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/news/070401_lactose
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/02/science/02evo.html?8dpc&_r=0

If you'd like to learn what the theory of evolution ACTUALLY says, here are some useful resources to get you started:
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/0_0_0/evo_01
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introduction_to_evolution

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Charles says:
really, who are you that i need do this ? my fee for writing, at others requests, is fifty dollars and hour in advance. put your money where your mouth is.

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