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In reply to an earlier post on Jul 13, 2012 7:20:00 PM PDT
Nova137 says:
Well, my point is how could someone who posits material reality as the only reality ever claim we can construct models that only *approximate* reality-in-itself? Many materialists subscribe, unwittingly perhaps, to this metaphysics.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 14, 2012 2:11:52 AM PDT
Harry Marks says:
Perilously close to ad hominem, Eric.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 14, 2012 3:18:00 AM PDT
Nova137 says:
Harry,

How are you? How is my economics expert!? I've enjoyed reading your point of view over the past year. Thank You.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 14, 2012 3:20:08 AM PDT
Harry Marks says:
Nova137,

Well, thanks. Enjoying vacation from teaching. Maybe (ahem) spending too much time enunciating my point of view. I should be reading Kierkegaard instead.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 14, 2012 3:31:55 AM PDT
Eric Pyle says:
But Daaad!

He started it!

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 14, 2012 3:42:48 AM PDT
Nova137 says:
One can read Kierkegaard while continuing to get one's point across and then be able to speak about existentialism more properly.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 14, 2012 3:43:08 AM PDT
Nova137 says:
lol!

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 14, 2012 4:08:15 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 24, 2012 9:52:22 AM PDT
Nova137 says:
Jeremy,

Let's look at your guess. First: It is quite an educated one is it not. Well said. You've even thrown in a monotheistic possibility. For most panentheists, that would be a stretch, but I AM in agreement. You mention the timeless element extending beyond the natural or time-bound part. That is an essential element of panentheism, yes. In the Subjective Science we are studying, the theory is that the self is identical with this timeless part. We call that process "Self-Realization." That is there comes a point where the seeker proves to itself that the self is actually the Self (the timeless element of Brahma [in its tradition]).

So, we are dealing with a Subjective Science of Self-Realization. Much like our beloved western Objective Science, there is an experiment to be performed with known parameters and test apparatus that has certain results if the experiment is run properly and with care.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 14, 2012 4:41:05 AM PDT
Nova137 says:
Harry,

I found this lovely little tidbit in Wiki on Dhr. Kierkegaard:

"His theological work focuses on Christian ethics, on the institution of the Church, and on the differences between purely objective proofs of Christianity. He wrote of the individual's subjective relationship to Jesus Christ,[6] the God-Man, which came through faith.[7][8] Much of his work deals with the art of Christian love.


"'Worldly wisdom is of the opinion that love is a relationship between persons; Christianity teaches that love is a relationship between: a person- God -a person, that is, that God is the middle term. To love God is to love oneself truly; to help another person to love God is to love another person; to be helped by another person to love God is to be loved.' Works of Love, Hong p. 106-107

"His psychological work explored the emotions and feelings of individuals when faced with life choices.[9] His thinking was influenced by Socrates and the Socratic method."

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 14, 2012 4:55:04 AM PDT
Harry Marks says:
Nova137 -

Thank you for that. I found it brilliant, as usual when I read Kierkegaard. God as the middle term.

Elizabeth Barrett Browning said much the same thing in a poem. "Love me for love's sake," rather than for any of her personal qualities. Not easy to get one's head around, but well worth the trouble.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 14, 2012 4:55:06 AM PDT
I'll get back to this one...

071V8

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 14, 2012 4:55:41 AM PDT
Jeremy spoke......in class today.

9r

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 14, 2012 4:57:23 AM PDT
Don't let Randy or arpie catch you makin' jokes off-topic, Ekka.

Their patience is limited.

Dinkum.

071V8

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 14, 2012 4:59:21 AM PDT
Noogie!

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071V8

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 14, 2012 5:07:38 AM PDT
Nova137 says:
arpie has a good sense of humor, I was surprised arpie went that direction, but you're right. Randy is nice...and smart, too! ...

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 14, 2012 5:08:23 AM PDT
Nova137 says:
Cool. I'll check it out (class = your home thread, right?)

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 14, 2012 5:08:41 AM PDT
Nova137 says:
Looking forward to it...

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 14, 2012 5:12:22 AM PDT
Harry Marks says:
Jody has a home thread?

How do I get a home thread?

Daaaaaad!

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 14, 2012 5:12:26 AM PDT
Nova137 says:
Ever in the mix must the timeless One be (or as Einstein called Her, the "Old One".)

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 14, 2012 5:13:04 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 14, 2012 5:16:18 AM PDT
Charles says:
Nova137 says:

QUESTIONS TO PONDER

"1. When you get to Heaven, what will God look like? Act like? Say to you?"
Pauly Shore
Junk yard Dog
Youv'e been a naughty boy, say three heil hitlers and one father quit hitting me !

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 14, 2012 5:15:52 AM PDT
Nova137 says:
Mate!

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In reply to an earlier post on Jul 14, 2012 5:18:03 AM PDT
Nova137 says:
Heil Hitler! Heil Hitler! Heil Hitler!

Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

"father quit hitting me " as he uses your own hand and says, "quit hitting yourself! quit hitting yourself" ;-)

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 14, 2012 5:19:44 AM PDT
I think arpie's a good bloke (and Randy o' course).

He just gets discombobulated if he dunna unna stand sumfkin'.

I'm guessin' he thinks he probly shouldna singed me pubes.

I posted a civil, considered response, hava look.

I'm quite proud I didn't roast his nuts.

(sorry arpie)

8.)

9r

Posted on Jul 14, 2012 5:21:24 AM PDT
Nova137 says:
afk for the day. Don't forget about Me!

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 14, 2012 5:21:39 AM PDT
Hey, Noogie,

you rounded it off to 9!

9r
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