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Purpose of Chemtrails

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Initial post: Dec 22, 2011 12:51:46 AM PST
G. Petersen says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Dec 22, 2011 5:51:43 AM PST
I have to ask... what is this doing in the Christianity forum?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 22, 2011 7:57:59 AM PST
Mr. Krinkle says:
They both start with "Ch". :)

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 22, 2011 7:57:48 PM PST
Ambulocetus says:
I would love to watch this all the way through if ANY evidence WHATSOEVER were provided.

Failing that, rubbish bin.

Posted on Dec 23, 2011 6:40:10 AM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on May 23, 2012 5:32:11 AM PDT

In reply to an earlier post on May 23, 2012 7:45:40 AM PDT
That's good, everyone should move to the left.

In reply to an earlier post on May 23, 2012 11:09:43 AM PDT
M. Simonson says:
"what is this doing in the Christianity forum? "

Believe it or not it does come up. This is where eschatology meets conspiracy theory. The general theme is usually that the end-times antichrist system is already in place and they are already starting to "do stuff". So chemtrails are said to have chemicals (both metallic and organic) that will lead to a dumbing-down or thinning out of the population. Another popular theory is that whatever us being used now is sort of like the first part of a binary agent so whatever comes next will be more effective.

If you listen to some of these guys long enough you will hear this stuff. Then again if you listen to them long enough you are likely to hear anything. I have even heard "the aliens told us what the government is doing with chemtrails" sheesh!

In reply to an earlier post on May 23, 2012 2:20:19 PM PDT
mrs exp says:
G Petersen,
Well I will say this he mentioned dizzy spells where you fall to the left and I experienced that a few months ago. It lasted for about 3 weeks. I didn't fall but I couldn't help going to the left. I actually slammed into the wall and my armoire. I would have fallen if it had been to the right where there was nothing to slam into. I don't know if this is the same thing that he is talking about, but it did make me wonder.

In reply to an earlier post on May 23, 2012 2:30:10 PM PDT
Aliens would know. They start out in their countries first!

In reply to an earlier post on May 23, 2012 2:52:20 PM PDT
M. Simonson says:
Aliens would know. They start out in their countries first!

Obviously, not that type of alien :-)
There is sort of a fringe movement in eschatology that links all sorts of things with end times. We have everything from all the 2012 stuff to the Prophesy of the Popes.
Much of the stuff like chemtrails or anything else that they can try to link to the "New World Order" gets put in with an idea that the infrastructure and most of the pieces the antichrist will use are already in place and some are visible (if you know where to look).

Even some rather well respected Christian presenters and authors have tried to link things like UFOs in with end-times deception. But this is often done in sort of a haphazard manner and it's highly speculative.

I enjoy reading and listening to them to a point, but only because I love to hear somebody spin a really good tale.

In reply to an earlier post on May 24, 2012 6:57:16 AM PDT
Yes. I was jesting.

I myself find no basis in Scripture to go into detail about geoengineering. Jesus and others gave a general composite sign about the Last Days.

"Wars and reports of wars" would crop up in one place after another. The world has not been at peace since the start of the Last Days. Since then there have been few if any days where there was not a battle being fought somewhere, either between nations or between opposing factions within a nation(s). Revelation says that the rider that has the sword on the fiery colored horse was granted to take peace away from the earth. (6:4) The rule of imperfect human behavior which is bent on self-rule apart from the sovereignty of Jehovah God is much magnified during wartime. That behavior is stated at Ecclesiastes 8:9. Basically it says that when humans try to rule over each other they hurt each other. We have many examples both in the Bible history and in secular history, ancient and modern, of governments seeking to control the perceptions, beliefs, movements, and other actions of people out of the motive of holding onto their power, grasping for more power.

Satan also does the same as told in Revelation. It depicts the Last Days as building toward the greatest of all battles between God and His organization and Satan and his rebellious world.

In Revelation 16 bowls of judgement are poured out on various symbolic elements of Satan's world organization: the "earth" which is the seemingly stable part of human society, the "sea" which stands for the turbulent, restless and revolutionary part elements of human society, the "rivers" and "fountains of water" which stands for the fresh sources of guidance and wisdom sourced by humanity but inspired by Satan, the "sun" stands for the visible human rulers of the world of humanity, the "throne of the wild beast" stands for the authority that Satan has given to world governments to rule in his stead, and the "great river Euphrates" stands for the protective support of the people upon the institutions of religion opposed to Jehovah God and Jesus Christ. The leaders of the latter are Christendom.

The preaching, teaching and disciple making work has the enlightening affect upon those who listen and they realize what is really happening among humanity. As they listen and learn more about the message against the world they understand that 1) the seemingly stable society of humanity rebelling from God under Satan's inspiration is condemned and soon to be destroyed, and so is 2) the sea of disorderly, revolutionary, disobedient humanity. They realize that all of 3) the sources of financial prognostication, marital, business and all other counsel that the world pumps out nonstop is only leading people on a dead path away from Jehovah and His solution, the only possible solution, the Kingdom of God ruled by Jesus Christ and his brothers under God's direction. The preaching work reveals that in the Last Days 4) humanity's governance over itself will continue to get worse and worse in their abusiveness of people and mismanagement of earth's resources, environment along with plant and animal life. This bowl of anger from God poured out upon the sun means that God will allow this as a part of His judgment upon the world of rebellious humanity. The preaching work is a bowl of anger poured out upon 5) the throne of the wild beast by revealing plainly to all who wish to listen that humanity is ruling under the authority of Satan and not by their will alone. Thus, one of the things that they keep stumbling at is the insidious influence of Satan's hand in all of the affairs of humanity. (Proverbs 4:19) The sixth bowl of anger is poured out upon 6) the river Euphrates. In ancient Babylon this was a main ingredient of the defenses of the city. Babylon the Great stands for the entire body of false religion around the world. By hitting the river people's devotion and support begins to wane in the Last Days so that the power that religions used to command in the past will become a dim reflection.

To counter the effect of the preaching work which has the effect of drawing people out of the world and collecting them into alignment with Christ and God's Kingdom Satan takes the actions at verse 13 and 14. He and his propaganda agents go forth to all the governments and inspire them to get the people more opposed to the preaching work and become more set in their reliance and love and/or fear of human government.

What we see here is a war of information first of all, before the physical assault. The persuasive and peaceful truth on the one hand and the lying deceptive propaganda on the other. Both sides are seeking to draw their followers closer in and organize for action. God's people benefit with success and joy while Satan's side reaps abuse and dissatisfaction. (Isaiah 65:13, 14)

Anyhow, in Satan's attempts to keep humanity relying on their own efforts and in the dark he is not concerned with the actual health and well being of the people. This is why "health care" is actually a way to control the economy and spread the belief and the "reality" that this belief creates. This is that it keeps people in fear and control and continues to tighten it in increments that do not incite enough rebellion to be effective to turn away from it toward God's Kingdom.

The known ingredients of geoengineering destroy organic crops and increase people's susceptibility to neurological diseases such as autism. Also all kinds of other diseases. In the meantime, crops have been designed and marketed that are resistant to these ingredients even while the elite tend their own organic gardens and keep kitchens full of organic foods prepared by their staff.

There are many other effects of geoengineering. Many of the stories are false and yet there is mountains of evidence for certain features of geoengineering to give it creedance. The Scriptures are silent on geoengineering and many other specific things happening in the Last Days. But the motives of humanity to harm itself along with the conditions (opportunity) and the means are all clearly spelled out as being a part of the Last Days.

In reply to an earlier post on May 24, 2012 8:52:28 AM PDT
M. Simonson says:
Well it's sort of an interesting thing to look at. There was a story some time back that Dennis Kucinich included a ban on Chemtrails in one of the house bills he was trying to get through. Hardly anybody knew (or admitted to knowing) what he was talking about. I have read the stories of unusual barium and aluminum traces being found etc.

I think you had a point about the information/disinformation war going on though. I have no way of knowing which of this stuff is true but I do know what I'd do if I was a publicist and my job was to cover it up or discredit it. I'd hire somebody to go around talking about chemtrails and link them in with UFOs, the Biderbegers, Nephilim and the New World Order. I'd get the guy on Coast-to-Coast AM if I could.

In reply to an earlier post on May 24, 2012 10:20:45 AM PDT
do you mean contrails ?
as left by jet planes

wtf is a chemtrail ??

In reply to an earlier post on May 24, 2012 10:28:08 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 24, 2012 10:28:51 AM PDT
M. Simonson says:
wtf is a chemtrail

So you got it. Most people think they are just contrails. Contrails will act weird under various atmospheric conditions, sometimes spreading out and persisting for a longer time.

But there is a theory that they have planes up there spraying tons of stuff. Theories and speculation range from trying to reflect back heat to fight Global Warming from actually trying to spray malicious agents on people they don't like.

Here is a fun link obviously you can Google more and have lots of fun ...

In reply to an earlier post on May 24, 2012 10:29:59 AM PDT
reply to M. Simonson's post:

the russians tried to spread flu in the 60s that way
we had some spikes
not clear if it was due to them or just a regular blip that happened

some govts do try to diddle weather
but they do lots of things that are scarier

In reply to an earlier post on May 24, 2012 10:30:08 AM PDT
Rev Otter says:

"The chemtrail conspiracy theory holds that some trails left by aircraft are actually chemical or biological agents deliberately sprayed at high altitudes for purposes undisclosed to the general public in clandestine programs directed by government officials."

In reply to an earlier post on May 24, 2012 10:30:51 AM PDT
reply to Rev. Otter's post:

not a conspiracy

they ahve been doing that for over 50 years
widely known and documented

In reply to an earlier post on May 24, 2012 10:36:04 AM PDT
Rev Otter says:
<<not a conspiracy>>

you should look up that word, because it's the very definition.

<<they ahve been doing that for over 50 years>>

"they" who? Delta? Southwest? US Air?

<<widely known and documented>>

*looks around* where?

In reply to an earlier post on May 24, 2012 10:38:03 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 24, 2012 10:38:52 AM PDT
Rev Otter says:
and if you believe that it's "widely known and documented", then why on Earth would you post <<wtf is a chemtrail ??>> earlier?!
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