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In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 3:58:37 PM PDT
Brandon says:
That might be the dumbest thing I have ever seen.

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 4:54:12 PM PDT
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Gr8fl2bHis says:
Well said, Doctor. VERY well said.

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 5:53:16 PM PDT
Doctor says:
Good rebuttal. Ad Hominem is the refuge of the ignorant bigot.

PJA. And Christianity certainly wallows in bigotry doesn't it?

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 8:47:33 PM PDT
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reply to Bubba's post:

as long as it is one male and one female the race is not important to me
nor to teh bible although homosexuality is an abomination it says

it does help to have a long strong happy marriage if the two people are of the same race, age, religion, education levels, etc.
but not mandatory

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 9:16:32 PM PDT
whomper says:
reply to Bubba's post:

as long as it is one male and one female the race is not important to me
nor to teh bible although homosexuality is an abomination it says

it does help to have a long strong happy marriage if the two people are of the same race, age, religion, education levels, etc.
but not mandatory

PJA So you mean as long as they meet your narrow criteria? Perhaps they might learn to spell along the way.... "teh" ????

In reply to an earlier post on May 5, 2012 10:14:48 PM PDT
Big Shmooz says:
Bubba says: Same sex marriage is no different than mixed race marriages. Were you also, or would you have also been against mixed race marriages?

Me: That is not a logical argument unless you can show why they are the same.

In reply to an earlier post on May 5, 2012 10:20:26 PM PDT
Big Shmooz says:
mrs exp says:...

Me: This is not really related to your post here but to another post where you questioned if God knows what a person is going to choose or not. Scripture makes it quite clear that God knows the choices people are going to make before they make them.

For instance, God says to Moses that he knows Paro is not going to let the Israelites leave without His inserting a strong hand.

Even Moses was informed by God that after his passing that Israel is going to turn to idol worship.

We also find that God says in the future that Israel is going to return to Him in repenetance.

So we clearly see from God's own words that He knows what people are going to choose.

Posted on May 10, 2012 5:20:23 AM PDT
AMB says:
Big Shmooz: "... another post where you questioned if God knows what a person is going to choose..."

According to Paul, it is all up to God to choose whether or not to make us "pure" enough to join him in his everlasting kingdom. There is also a parable in Matthew with a (contradictory) verse at the end which says that although God invites many of us to join him in his kingdom, he will only choose a few.

Thus, it doesn't matter whether or not God knows what we will choose; and since it is all up to God anyway, it doesn't even matter what we might choose. So we should all just go on about our business and not give the matter a second thought.

Posted on May 10, 2012 6:15:57 AM PDT
G. Chadwick says:
If you think about the parable of 10 . You would see that they were all invited to the wedding some were not prepared to enter. So when the bridegroom came only those prepared could enter because the rest were off looking for more oil.

Posted on May 10, 2012 6:50:18 AM PDT
Jesus's death completed the Law of Moses' (10 commandments) rule over the Jews. However since most Jews did not recognize Jesus as the coming Savior, they continued to follow the Law of Moses. The addition of works in addition to faith is Satan's master lie! The Law was given to prepare the Jews for Faith in the coming Christ, since only faith can bring us to eternal life. Gentiles and Jews alike are now only bound to Jesus by faith, not by acts (10 commandments). Read Galatians 3; here you will see Paul is telling the Galatians the same thing. That they are no longer bound by the Law but are only bound by their faith in Jesus.

Posted on May 10, 2012 8:44:40 AM PDT
Ponger says:
Isn't believing in Jesus demonstrated by how you live your life? If you believe in him then your acts show that by being good. If you say you believe but don't act like Jesus tells us too, then any delusinal pscyo can believe, but it means nothing unless you understand what Jesus taught and try to live your life by his teachings.

In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 8:53:37 AM PDT
reply to G. Chadwick's post:

i thought they didnt get past the bouncer cause he didnt like their clothes

In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 1:05:24 PM PDT
Big Shmooz says:
AMB says: According to Paul, it is all up to God to choose whether or not to make us "pure" enough to join him in his everlasting kingdom.

Me: Wow. I never knew he said that. If he really did say that he is even more mistaken than I previously had thought.

In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 1:15:02 PM PDT
Big Shmooz says:
Ethan Johnson says: Jesus's death completed the Law of Moses' (10 commandments) rule over the Jews.

Me: That doesn't even make sense. Oh & there are not just ten laws.

Ethan Johnson says: The addition of works in addition to faith is Satan's master lie!

Me: Perhaps from Christianity's viewpoint, but for Israel God gave us a Torah to abide by for ALL generations an EVERLASTING covenant.

Ethan Johnson says: The Law was given to prepare the Jews for Faith in the coming Christ,

Me: That's not what God says in His Torah. God says in His Torah that his laws are given as a means to everlasting life.

Ethan Johnson says: Gentiles and Jews alike are now only bound to Jesus by faith

Me: I have faith in God, not some idol named jesus. If God wanted me to have faith in jesus he would have told me so on mount Seenai when he gave me the Torah. But God does the opposite. God says not to worship foreign gods, those that my fathers did not know. My fathers were not informed by God of jesus at mount Seenai so for me jesus is a foreign god whom God warned me to never worship.

Ethan Johnson says: Read Galatians 3; here you will see Paul is telling the Galatians the same thing. That they are no longer bound by the Law but are only bound by their faith in Jesus.

Me: Galatians were Jews? If not, then they were never bound to the Torah so your point is moot.

In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 1:36:41 PM PDT
I don't recall that concept at all. I may be wrong, but it doesn't sound like Paul.

In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 1:38:15 PM PDT
The Bible expresses that "the Law was a shadow of things to come, and Jesus Christ is the substance". He IS the fulfillment of God's Law.

Posted on May 10, 2012 1:40:10 PM PDT
Romans 1

16 "For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, " But the righteous man shall live by faith."

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,

19 because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them.

20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.

21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing to be wise, they became fools,

23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them.

25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever."

In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 2:11:39 PM PDT
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Bubba says:
It is too bad that Amazon wasn't around then, they could have simply ordered it: Gun Oil 8oz Bottle

In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 2:15:37 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 10, 2012 2:17:21 PM PDT
Bubba says:
Even if one does not believe in Jesus, one can be good. There seems to be considerable disagreement among Christians over what Jesus taught.

In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 3:26:44 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 10, 2012 3:29:22 PM PDT
mrs exp says:
AMB,
Well if it is all up to God then I might as well sin because it won't make any difference in the end.
exp

In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 3:55:29 PM PDT
Fleshly "good" comes from the fallen condition that occured with sin. It was fruit from the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil, blessing and calamity" that was eaten that caused it. It is a condition that fools many, thinking as Lucifer thought "I would be as the Most High", and the fallen condition of Man...thinks the same, learning to train sinful flesh...to do...good, without God.

Posted on May 10, 2012 3:58:13 PM PDT
Righteousness...means "right standing with God", which the NEW NATURE, from the Spirit of Jesus Christ, enables the believer to no longer disobey God, but to walk in obedience and trust in Him fully. A life that was lost to Adam, spiritual, is regained by the sacrifice and forgiveness...in the new life from Christ.

In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 6:08:58 PM PDT
Big Shmooz says:
B. Nixon says: The Bible expresses that "the Law was a shadow of things to come, and Jesus Christ is the substance".

Me: Is that located in Genesis? Exodus? Was it Leviticus? Perhaps Numbers? Or maybe Deut.? Sorry, the answer is "none of the above" & that is precisely my point. God never said this to me at mount Seenai.

However He DID say that we Israelites must not follow any gods our fathers did not know. Since God did not tell us about jesus at mount Seenai, he qualifies as a god our fathers did not know. Pretty simple, eh?

In reply to an earlier post on May 11, 2012 4:57:06 AM PDT
The fallen nature of Man is "I would be as the Most High", the knowledge of good and evil, blessing and calamity.

God's Law reveals a "standard" far higher than anyone with the knowledge of good and evil, blessing and calamity, which is the nature to rebel and attempt to BE as the Most High, could EVER attain. So the blood sacrifice was the only way to please God, and be forgiven.

God demontrated HIS Way to the World, because no man could EVER attain those high standards...always sacrificing...but a nature that actually believes it can be done, which is in error.

God did for all Mankind what He did for Abraham...God provided a Sacrifice for us ALL. One Man brought Sin IN, and One Man overcame it.

One God. One plan. One Provision for us. His Way, His Truth...the Tree of Life so many forget...that was not to be touched...because it was Life Eternal.

That Life, though I know you don't believe it, comes from Jesus Christ...Who paid the penalty for US, and any who come to Him...eat of the Tree of Life...and will be with God Forever.

Abraham knows Jesus, he met Him. Moses, Daniel, the three in the furnace with...the Fourth Man...not by Name...but by Character and power.

Posted on May 11, 2012 5:55:27 AM PDT
God created Adam...and said His creation...was good. (Only true "good" comes from God.)

Adam believed a lie from the evil one, and exchanged his truth spoken from God...for a lie, that he could "be as the Most High God".

No book.
God's fellowship and Presense. Adam had walked in fellowship with God, and lost that relationship.

Because of Adam's rebellion, he received death in his human spirit, no longer in fellowship with God. Cut off spiritually from the Living and True God.

Cast out of the garden, Adam no longer had fellowship with God.

Abraham heard God, believed God, and obeyed the words God spoke to him.

No book.

God spoke, Abraham believed. Righteouseness, right standing with God, was accounted to him.

Torah, Scriptures...everyone has their Book...

Jesus said "you search the Scriptures, and in them you think you'll find Eternal Life, but you wouldn't come to ME".

God, Who is present everywhere...wants each person to come to Him, not strive to understand and follow the instructions of a Book, but to be as Abraham...and hear, and believe...the Living God Who is right where the reader of these words is.

He wants us to trust HIM, not just His words and rules.

That intimate love relationship...lost in the Garden, which God rectified His Own Way...all we have to do is call on Him, and He hears us.

He never wanted us to rely on books, but on Him, Personally.
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