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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 22, 2012 3:20:24 PM PDT
> there are references in the bible (as I have read about or been told) that warn against "seers", "fortune telling", "witchcraft", etc.

True, but I think that is referring to pagan activities in practice in the Roman Empire at the time. It's sort of like in the Old Testament when it talks about the priests of Moloch (the god which Ammonites sacrificed their children to). Being a priest isn't bad, it's being a priest of a false god that is.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 22, 2012 4:58:02 PM PDT
Charles says:
Spider Witch, some of the twenty six mnetions of seers

1 Samuel 9:9
(Beforetime in Israel, when a man went to enquire of God, thus he spake, Come, and let us go to the seer: for he that is now called a Prophet was beforetime called a Seer.)
1 Samuel 9:8-10 (in Context) 1 Samuel 9 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
1 Samuel 9:11
And as they went up the hill to the city, they found young maidens going out to draw water, and said unto them, Is the seer here?
1 Samuel 9:10-12 (in Context) 1 Samuel 9 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
1 Samuel 9:18
Then Saul drew near to Samuel in the gate, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, where the seer's house is.
1 Samuel 9:17-19 (in Context) 1 Samuel 9 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
1 Samuel 9:19
And Samuel answered Saul, and said, I am the seer: go up before me unto the high place; for ye shall eat with me to day, and to morrow I will let thee go, and will tell thee all that is in thine heart.
1 Samuel 9:18-20 (in Context) 1 Samuel 9 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
2 Samuel 15:27
The king said also unto Zadok the priest, Art not thou a seer? return into the city in peace, and your two sons with you, Ahimaaz thy son, and Jonathan the son of Abiathar.
2 Samuel 15:26-28 (in Context) 2 Samuel 15 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
2 Samuel 24:11
For when David was up in the morning, the word of the LORD came unto the prophet Gad, David's seer, saying,
2 Samuel 24:10-12 (in Context) 2 Samuel 24 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
2 Kings 17:13
Yet the LORD testified against Israel, and against Judah, by all the prophets, and by all the seers, saying, Turn ye from your evil ways, and keep my commandments and my statutes, according to all the law which I commanded your fathers, and which I sent to you by my servants the prophets.
2 Kings 17:12-14 (in Context) 2 Kings 17 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
1 Chronicles 9:22
All these which were chosen to be porters in the gates were two hundred and twelve. These were reckoned by their genealogy in their villages, whom David and Samuel the seer did ordain in their set office.
1 Chronicles 9:21-23 (in Context) 1 Chronicles 9 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
1 Chronicles 21:9
And the LORD spake unto Gad, David's seer, saying,
1 Chronicles 21:8-10 (in Context) 1 Chronicles 21 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations

Posted on Jun 22, 2012 5:49:06 PM PDT
Spider Witch says:
Thank you muchly (yes I consider this a word - thanks to Nintendo Animal Crossing) Charles and Brenton.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 22, 2012 6:12:14 PM PDT
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neonpisces says:
>To me, being mystic is more a learning and practical thing with meditations and other means to connect with the Divine, higher-self, etc. During these types of "seeking" meditations can come experiences of different natures, including what is perceived (real or not) as astral travel, shape-shifting, conscience altering, etc.

Christian mysticism would differ insofar as it exists within Christian theology. The "Divine" is explicitly the trinitarian God of Christianity. The "higher self" could exist only in terms of selflessness and proximity to God. Hence, at least in Christian terms, it is something of an oxymoron.

Experiences are not the point. At best they are interesting by-products.

Again, the point needs to be stressed, people who engage in practices associated with mystical tradition are not super-Christians. It's not like Christianity has extra-curriculars.

Christian mysticism may be a path that some are called to. It may be a gift of the Spirit. It may be a blessing. It is definitely worth studying.

However *everyone* is called to feed the hungry, cloth the naked, and visit the prisoners. Center your mind as much as you want...but if you have not love...etc.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 23, 2012 7:25:01 AM PDT
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Charles says:
neonpisces says:
"they have any other movement that uses the individual and must be experienced and can not be proven in any other way>To me, being mystic is more a learning and practical thing with meditations and other means to connect with the Divine, higher-self, etc. During these types of "seeking" meditations can come experiences of different natures, including what is perceived (real or not) as astral travel, shape-shifting, conscience altering, etc.
Christian mysticism would differ insofar as it exists within Christian theology. The "Divine" is explicitly the trinitarian God of Christianity. The "higher self" could exist only in terms of selflessness and proximity to God. Hence, at least in Christian terms, it is something of an oxymoron."

Fact!
Unfortunityly there are many trying to cash in on the Mystic idea, as they have any other form of experience that has no proof other than the individual experience. There is no trinity in Mysticism, while some may speak of it in context of the religious dogma. God is not as any orthodox religion teaches. That is why the Mystic Moves away from the teachings and aspires to the union with the creator.

So like any other subject of monitary value to some, it is spoke of with many misconceptions and false teachings.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 23, 2012 7:57:57 AM PDT
charles, Peace to you always in the Most Precious Blood of Jesus our Great God and Saviour

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 23, 2012 9:46:16 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 23, 2012 9:50:40 AM PDT
Charles says:
Matthew L. Broderick says:
charles, Peace to you always in the

Merry Meet, Matthew.
Thanks, I'll lite a candle to you !

Posted on Jun 23, 2012 5:29:13 PM PDT
Spider Witch says:
Charles - sincerely no disrespect intended, but I found it surprising that you use "Merry Meet" which is such an accepted Wiccan greeting. Perhaps I am just not familiar with Christians who also use this greeting.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 23, 2012 6:44:55 PM PDT
Charles says:
I am a mystic, and I lived with a wiccan for a year and we talked often. I have little bits of many backgrounds in me LOL.
I would never deny anyone their right to practice as they wish as long as they don't try to pull any BS on others.

There is truth in all the writings, read many, I fear not any writing is all true.

Posted on Jun 24, 2012 3:07:17 PM PDT
Charles says:
I will take time here to show the relationship between science findings and the creative.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRUISeaWfYE

Posted on Jun 24, 2012 4:06:08 PM PDT
Spider Witch says:
Wise words Charles.
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