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Israel, God's judgments and the last days we are living in; Part Three

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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2012 3:00:11 AM PDT
Bryan Borich says:
God doesn't deal directly...no need to.....

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2012 7:17:51 AM PDT
Ryan Willis says:
What kind of candy are you on? lol. I could have sworn the non-Christians on these forums have made sure I have a "fundie" sticker on my forehead for all to see. Although I differ in some areas, in other ways I'm in the exact same boat as others here but my approach to the same thing at times differs.

People like Lois, J. Rawlins, SIA, etc. who have seen bits of my Eschatology understanding can vouche I don't believe in that fulfilled in 70 AD stuff, not even close. 70AD was a type of fulfillment but it in no way qualifies as the full fulfillment. Some things I have just taken the time to look a little deeper than some, the Bride of Christ being one of those topics, and thus I see something more to it than just the generic stuff everyone already knows. That goes for anything though. Those who look deeper tend to find more meaning. The Rapture is a particular thing that holds a much higher meaning for me than it may for some because the Bridal message is a reality to me and not just a concept. We know Christ is coming back for a Bride but many who know that in their heads don't really grasp the reality of what that truly means to be a Bride.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2012 8:51:21 AM PDT
Bryan Borich says:
God doesn't deal directly...no need to.....

PJA.Oh ok, so then why should we believe anything about him?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2012 10:32:39 AM PDT
Bryan Borich says:
Odds are it would be a god idea not to in most cases. Except where it involves loving one another.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2012 10:36:57 AM PDT
Bryan Borich says:
Odds are it would be a god idea not to in most cases. Except where it involves loving one another.

PJA.love is selective not mandatory. You cannot force someone to love you, nor can they force youn to love them back. Its an absurd concept to even suggest it. And an incredible waste of energy

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2012 10:42:30 AM PDT
Tinker says:
Exactly why loving God and His son Jesus is optional. He never wants anyone to love Him out of fear or because they feel forced.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2012 11:03:19 AM PDT
Bryan Borich says:
You're restricting yourself to only one form of love.......

And it's not absurd, eventually you will learn how to.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2012 11:08:48 AM PDT
Cheri says:
Exactly why loving God and His son Jesus is optional. He never wants anyone to love Him out of fear or because they feel forced

PJA. Except that in the case of Jesus/God, there is a penalty to be exacted upon if this "love" is rejected. Its like a rejected suitor who plans to exact revenge for the rejection.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2012 11:10:01 AM PDT
Bryan Borich says:
You're restricting yourself to only one form of love.......

And it's not absurd, eventually you will learn how to.

PJA. You had better define your idea of love then.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2012 11:17:44 AM PDT
Bryan Borich says:
That's almost as difficult as trying to define God :)

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2012 12:27:18 PM PDT
Bryan Borich says:
That's almost as difficult as trying to define God :)

PJA. But love is tangible. Love is demonstrable. No matter which version you use.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2012 12:29:25 PM PDT
Bryan Borich says:
Not always.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2012 12:57:09 PM PDT
OSAS says:
Amen Theo!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2012 1:02:05 PM PDT
OSAS says:
Unfortunately Ryan none of what you believe matters since you don't believe that Jesus Christ is God who came in the flesh. The second person of the Holy Trinity. If He is not God then He can't forgive sin. If He is not God then His sacrifice on behalf of humanity means nothing.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2012 1:09:44 PM PDT
Bryan Borich says:
> If He is not God then His sacrifice on behalf of humanity means nothing.

Yes it does, it technically means more.....

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2012 1:18:46 PM PDT
Bryan Borich says:
Not always.

PJA. When its in selection mode , it is.If I select someone to show my emotions to, then it is a demonstration...

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2012 1:42:02 PM PDT
Tinker says:
This is key in salvation.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2012 1:58:16 PM PDT
OSAS says:
Exactly. The focus of the entire Bible is the reconciliation of man with God through the promised Messiah, God the Son; so that we could live the life that God created us to live with Him for eternity.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2012 2:01:40 PM PDT
Bryan Borich says:
In other words human sacrifices are necessary......

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2012 2:56:03 PM PDT
Allan says:
T. D. Mills says: Unfortunately Ryan none of what you believe matters...

Allan: Now that you have been put in your place, Ryan...

She's a doozy, isn't she?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2012 3:01:34 PM PDT
Ryan Willis says:
Oh ok so now suddenly you want to completely discard anything I have to say on that basis, huh?

You call yourself loving but do you have any clue how you sound in this post saying "none of what you believe matters" when in reality we're not that far apart. I just don't see the Trinity the exact way you do. I fully believe Jesus Christ came in the flesh and had fullness of God dwell in him. He doesn't have to be God to forgive sin. It is just as reasonable that the Father gave him authority to do so just as the Father gave the Kingdom to the Son and put all things under His feet. Christ's sacrifice means a heck of a lot for me and for you to come in harsh judgement declaring that it doesn't is cruelty on your part.

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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2012 4:13:12 PM PDT
Tinker says:
I don't understand why people are so quick to come against those here who believe in the Trinity. I'm sorry you and Ryan see the need to be so hurtful. She said nothing in a angry or hurtful way.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2012 4:14:43 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2012 4:16:18 PM PDT
Allan says:
''She said nothing in an angry or hurtful way.''

None so blind.
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