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Posted on May 2, 2012 7:05:31 AM PDT
Nova137 says:
Continuing with our triplicity expressions I found this quote in The Soul and its Mechanism:

"Three souls which make up one soul: first, to wit,
A soul of each and all the bodily parts,
Seated therein, which works, and is what Does,
And has the use of earth, and ends the man
Downward: but, tending upward for advice,
Grows into, and again is grown into
By the next soul, which, seated in the brain,
Useth the first with its collected use,
And feeleth, thinketh, willeth,-is what Knows:
Which, duly tending upward in its turn,
Grows into, and again is grown into
By the last soul, that uses both the first,
Subsisting whether they assist or no,
And, constituting man's self, is what Is-
And leans upon the former, makes it play,
As that played off the first: and, tending up,
Holds, is upheld by, God, and ends the man
Upward in that dread point of intercourse,
Nor needs a place, for it returns to Him.
What Does, what Knows, what Is; three souls, one man."

ROBERT BROWNING DEATH IN THE DESERT

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 7:11:03 AM PDT
My feet only started to hurt at the very end. After I got the heels off they didn't hurt at all. I thought my calves would be sore, but no, I didn't have any pain afterward.

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 7:12:55 AM PDT
I already know mine is defective; they were too busy putting fins on cars the year I was born.

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 9:16:00 AM PDT
Astrocat says:
The triplicities are numerous. Some of them are:

Atma/Buddhi/Manas
Spirit/Soul/Personality
Spirit/Soul/Body
Life/Quality/Appearance
Shiva/Vishnu/Brachma
Sattva/Rajas/Tamas
Shamballa/Hierarchy/Humanity
Monad/Ego/Body
Head/Heart/Throat
Higher Mind/Son of Mind/Lower Mind
Great Bear/Sirius/Pleaides
Osiris/Horus/Isis
Electric Fire/Solar Fire/Fire by Friction
Will/Love/Intelligence

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 10:10:55 AM PDT
D. S. Clark says:
Sun/Earth/Moon

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 10:12:22 AM PDT
D. S. Clark says:
Shiva/Vishnu/Brachma

If you look at ones like that (and I thought it was Brahman) what you actually find are dualities that are "summed up" in the third item. So there are not really three in those cases, just two and a Whole.

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 10:25:05 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 2, 2012 10:27:51 AM PDT
Astrocat says:
Father/Son/Holy Spirit. I forgot that one, which most Christians resonate to.

D.S., not really. The third correspondent in each triplicity indicates the quality of matter, as in Spirit/Soul/Matter. Matter will eventually be subsumed, through Soul, back into Spirit. Spirit, according to Blavatsky, is Matter at the highest point, and Matter is Spirit at the lowest. it's the interaction of these two that creates the Soul/Consciousness/Christ aspect of Divinity.

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 3:03:04 PM PDT
D. S. Clark says:
Mmmm...ok...I'm not sure what you mean by the "quality of matter" but otherwise that sounds good.

Posted on May 2, 2012 7:54:43 PM PDT
Nova137 says:
6.84%

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 9:22:12 PM PDT
Astrocat says:
D.S. by "quality of matter" I mean how much of that matter has been spiritualized, awakened to the reality that it is divine, that Spirit/Matter are two sides of the same coin, the Yin/Yang of Life.

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 10:08:07 PM PDT
D. S. Clark says:
Ah, yes, I agree. Thanks.

Posted on May 3, 2012 7:58:40 AM PDT
Craig,
Do you also buy into the pov that says Soul/consciousness/Christ are all metaphors for the same state of consciousness, which anyone may achieve?

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 10:05:43 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 3, 2012 10:08:03 AM PDT
D. S. Clark says:
Let me just clarify my point of view on this. There is undifferentiated consciousness...what ALF and the Bible would call "raw grain". It does not have an identity (other than "God") and no memories and no experiences. It is pure awareness, I AM, LIGHT.

Then there is the darkness. The separation. The memories. The experiences.

The purpose of the darkness and the separation is to create or grow more light. How? By giving it a place to expand into.

Our memories and our awareness are kept separately until such time as we become able to merge them.

Ask those who experienced unity consciousness...were there any memories or experiences there? If you were the universe then why didn't you experience what everyone else was experiencing? Did you notice that something was missing?

Ask those who have experienced past lives or spirit guides whether they were in unity consciousness with the whole universe at that time. No? Interesting.

So it's one or the other?

Interesting.

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 10:13:33 AM PDT
Astrocat says:
D.S., good point. During the experience I had there were no memories, there was no "other", there was only One and I was It, just as much as everything "else" was It, even though, of course, there was no "everything else"... I know, sounds awfully dichotomous, but such is the limitation of language.

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 10:14:12 AM PDT
D. S. Clark says:
At some point, it would be nice to hear, in your own words, perhaps after Craig responds, what you feel about this and why you are asking.

But please just say it in your own words. Plainly. "I don't like this..." or "That bothers me...".

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 10:18:02 AM PDT
D. S. Clark says:
Awesome. Thanks Nancy. Others have confirmed that as well.

Can you elaborate on the return a little? What was it like coming back or down from that experience? Would you have stayed in that experience of being One if you could? Were you suddenly back or did you feel pulled back? Was the return enjoyable or harsh?

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 10:49:15 AM PDT
Astrocat says:
D.S., there was no "down" or "out", there was just a sense of recognition, as if I'd always known. There was no sense of "oh, darn", that's over. I suppose I'd have to define it as a quiet joy. It was what came after that confirmed the experience, the changes I made in my life, not immediately, but over a period of time. It was as if I had discovered a new way to be and a new direction, and it was all very matter-of-fact, "oh, yeah, that's right....."

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 11:06:27 AM PDT
D. S. Clark says:
Ok, thanks. Some have indicated that they were sort of ripped back out of the experience. But maybe they were having a different kind of experience.

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 11:18:35 AM PDT
Astrocat says:
Could be, D.S. It wasn't like waking from a dream, it was more like remembering who I am and what I'm doing here.

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 11:38:59 AM PDT
Craig says:
Baba Dots says: "Do you also buy into the pov that says Soul/consciousness/Christ are all metaphors for the same state of consciousness, which anyone may achieve?"

Anyone? No, well I guess that depends. I think some people are heading in that direction, they might get there in this life. Some seem to have no desire to achieve Christ consciousness though. Also, I'm not sure if those are all the same states.

Posted on May 3, 2012 11:41:27 AM PDT
Craig says:
I've kinda come to a point where I don't want to try and define everything, I would rather just experience right now.

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 11:44:33 AM PDT
D. S. Clark says:
Gotcha, thanks.

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 11:44:51 AM PDT
D. S. Clark says:
With a good brew? LOL... :>)

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 11:46:15 AM PDT
Craig says:
You got it.

In reply to an earlier post on May 3, 2012 11:58:04 AM PDT
Astrocat says:
Craig, the term "Christ consciousness" is probably unfortunate, since it makes it sound as if people will become somehow Christian, and of course that's not it at all. Enlightenment can be awfully vague, so there again we have the problem that language can be more obfuscating than revealing. I think the Buddha said it just right when he said he was "Awake".
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