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Are most homosexuals somehow bullied into being homosexual?


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In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 3:40:42 PM PDT
That should teach you not to drunk post.

In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 3:41:04 PM PDT
Ethan

Incorrecto. There are physical differences in a part of the brain between a gay man and a straight one. Science can be your friend if you let it.

In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 3:42:41 PM PDT
Science can be your gay friend.

In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 3:42:47 PM PDT
GtbG

Middle-age really blows sometimes....... :

Indeed it does.

In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 3:45:46 PM PDT
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Bubba

The same ones that say it creates schizophrenia and autism. In other words, bs discarded by everyone except religious conservatives.

Posted on May 10, 2012 3:47:54 PM PDT
and french psychoanalysts.

In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 3:50:49 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 3:54:54 PM PDT
mrs exp says:
arpard fazakas,
I affirm that it was only one can of beer. Honestly.
exp

In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 3:55:18 PM PDT
Yeah, right!

:)

In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 3:55:27 PM PDT
mrs exp

They used to say it also caused schizophrenia and autism. What a difficult choice for a poor boy.

In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 4:00:57 PM PDT
mrs exp says:
Mark R Allen,
Anything to keep those who are different in their place. My mom didn't talk about homosexuals, but I'm sure she would in this day. But she did talk about 'negros'; they were all right as long as they knew their place.
exp

In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 4:17:48 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 4:19:28 PM PDT
Reverse psychology?

In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 4:30:14 PM PDT
mrs exp says:
James Peabody,
What do you mean?
exp

In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 4:49:26 PM PDT
S. Kessler says:
Seriously, Ethan, do you have statistics to show that all gay people lacked male parental figures? Because unless you do,you haven't a clue what you're babbling about.

In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 4:50:26 PM PDT
S. Kessler says:
What utter twaddle!

In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 4:53:55 PM PDT
S. Kessler says:
mac: As for homosexual behavior, that and other sexual behavior is very much determined by primary archetypal male/female figures, usually the parents. Any and ALL of their behavior influences a childs self-perception re: sexuality.
A child might reject normative sexuality based on how the father behaved towards the mother, the child himself, or other males.

SK: Nonsense. There is not science to support this assertion. All the scientific evidence available indicates that sexual orientation results from complex interplay between genetics and hormonal exposure during gestation.

In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 4:56:07 PM PDT
SK

Dano has blown up several billion of his neurons on that one. Or they are simply too embarrassed to be associated with him.

Posted on May 10, 2012 5:59:32 PM PDT
Rick Henry says:
This... is a serious discussion?
Goodbye.

In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 8:02:50 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 10:03:16 PM PDT
* says:
I guess it doesn't always take. :)

In reply to an earlier post on May 11, 2012 3:33:05 AM PDT
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Joe Anthony says:
Ethan Johnson says:

"If a child is without a male father figure then he may self-identify with his mother thus causing him to have homosexual tendencies. Also the lack of male influence could cause gender confusion if the child is young enough. Any of this accompanied by a Feminist role model would only accelerate this in my opinion."

I say:

Not only is this line of thought completely wrong; it is also cruel in that it blames a person's orientation on the parents...as if the parents of a gay or lesbian child don't have enough to deal with already than to have others condemn them for bad parenting.

Ironically, this line of thought is not an out-growth of fundamentalist Christian thought but rather Freudian psychology and Behavioral psychology. Despite the fact that fundamentalist Christians might be likely to instinctively reject psychologists such as Sigmund Freud and BF Skinner as "atheistic", it's obvious to me by what fundamentalists have to say on the topic of homosexuality that basically they take the a very similar line of thought and treatment, except for what they add to it which is a Christian veneer; but basically it's the same wine in a different bottle.

For years since the time of Freud, the general idea, as far as psychology was concerned, was that the cause of homosexuality was in either in bad parenting, unresolved Oedipus Complex (mother fixation), or that it was learned from environmental factors. While Freud himself was unsure if he could actually "cure" homosexuality and actually suggested a more accepting and liberal approach, many followers of Freud, Neo-Freudians and Behaviorists took the view for decades that sexual orientation could be changed either through psychotherapy or conditioning.

By 1980, all of this changed and there was an abrupt about face in the psychological community. Famous and respected psychologists such as Albert Ellis who wrote books in the 1950s such as "Homosexuality and it's Cure" were by 1980 advocating a line of tolerance and acceptance. In the early 1970s, the American Psychological Association also removed homosexuality from the DSM_IV, which is the official lexicon of psychological disorders.

It's interesting that, basically, the fundamentalists and Right-wing Christians are basically taking a line on homosexuality that is based upon out-dated ideas from Neo-Freudian and Behavioral psychology that has long since been rejected or abandoned even by some of the people (such as Albert Ellis) who came up with the ideas in the first place.

Everything that "Ethan Johnson" says, for example, is right out of Freudian psychology. It's all a watered-down version of Freud's unresolved Oedipus Complex. I find this fascinating in that Freud was a confirmed atheist and who saw no room whatsoever for "God" in his theory of human personality.
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