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Are most homosexuals somehow bullied into being homosexual?


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In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 1:26:27 PM PDT
D. Thomas says:
You seem to be the only one who thinks so, HZ.

It's hateful because it's crap.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 1:26:57 PM PDT
D. Thomas says:
Second.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 1:27:34 PM PDT
I hope this sort of naive, destructive attitude goes away. Strictly defined gender roles are bad. Gender roles defined by the blade of a scalpel are a barbarism that has no place in modern civilized society.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 1:29:19 PM PDT
D. Thomas says:
Your computer explodes!

Seriously, you get a pop-up thanking you for your contribution. And a close-window button. That's it.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 1:31:25 PM PDT
D. Thomas says:
A double whammy: WRONG on both counts!

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 1:43:01 PM PDT
Macaron says:
Michael Altarriba says:
I hope this sort of naive, destructive attitude goes away. Strictly defined gender roles are bad. Gender roles defined by the blade of a scalpel are a barbarism that has no place in modern civilized society.

Mac:::: I like your point of view. Unfortunately, I seriously doubt that modern society is very civilized........it has a very thin *veneer*, that keeps washing off.. modernity doesn't equate , in my mind anyway, with *civilized*

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 1:46:39 PM PDT
D. Thomas says:
Okay, Iatric. Children who aren't bullied into being Christians (like I was) are DECEIVED into believing Christian doctrines.

Happy now?

I have yet to discern the difference between Christian values and non-Christian values. The rituals and beliefs are different, but the values? Not so much, except on issues like abortion and same-sex marriage, which are hyped into controversy by self-promoting "conservatives" like Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck.

Hay comes in bales. You meant "bail," as in "We're crashing. Bail out!"

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 1:48:48 PM PDT
D. Thomas says:
Say what? Lot of words, but nothing that makes sense.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 1:49:07 PM PDT
Joe Anthony says:
@Macaron:

On what grounds are you putting me on ignore?

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 1:52:34 PM PDT
D. Thomas says:
You... are a serious person?
Good riddance.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 1:54:58 PM PDT
D. Thomas says:
Some are beaten by senseless Christians who read Bibles.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 1:58:36 PM PDT
D. Thomas says:
I think there's a typo there. Didn't you mean to say that "psychotherapeutic material is NOT terribly scientific"?

'Cause it isn't.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 2:00:02 PM PDT
It was a Freudian slip.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 2:05:50 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 15, 2012 2:12:39 PM PDT
D. Thomas says:
Can you gentlemen take this outside? I - and undoubtedly others - are tired of scrolling through this bicker-fest. Move on, please. There are more important things to discuss.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 2:12:10 PM PDT
D. Thomas says:
Good one!

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 2:41:02 PM PDT
Astrin Ymris says:
arpard fazakas,

You mean Caster Semenya? She had Partial Androgen Insensitivity Disorder, and didn't know it herself until complaints of possible steroid use led to a mandated physical that uncovered the condition.

She weathered the trauma, and has made South Africa's Olympic team. :-)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/17794124

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 2:44:09 PM PDT
As a man or a woman?

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 2:56:01 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 15, 2012 2:56:57 PM PDT
Macaron says:
D. Thomas says:
I think there's a typo there. Didn't you mean to say that "psychotherapeutic material is NOT terribly scientific"?

'Cause it isn't.

Mac::: to whom are you dirececting your post to? There is a *body of mixed literature* on the subject. Some of which is pure garbage, some which are mixed truth and fantasy, and then some truly penetrating insights as to how the mind functions. You really can't throw the baby out with the bathwater. All said, I also tend to agree with you, as the mind is a very very subtle and complex instrument, and exceedingly difficult to comprehend exactly how it works. That doesn't mean its irrelevant though, particularly to the question posited here.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 3:00:07 PM PDT
Astrin Ymris says:
dischism,

Re: "...they are ready and prepared to support the baby and family as is and allow the child to grow into the gender in which they feel comfortable, rather than allow doctors to operate and rid babies of tissues which are irreplaceable, certainly in terms of being able to attain sexual pleasure..."

You'd think that would be a no-brainer. :-(

BTW, when Googling to see if the guidelines for managing intersex infants have changed, I found this story:

http://www.bilerico.com/2011/07/the_facts_about_indias_infant_sex_changes.php

"...The bottom line is that it's most likely that cissexual infants are not being surgically assigned a gender. But it's also most likely that sex-selective practices are resulting in intersex infants being overwhelmingly being assigned to male - probably whenever it's biologically possible - regardless of how they might identify later in life. That is speculative on my part, but based on the consideration that with all that has been written thus far, there has likely been some real disparity that sparked the several initial reports... With regards to Kotwal's and others' excuses, OII Australia counters that these procedures are as harmful to intersex children as they would be to cissexual (non-intersex / non-trans) children:

... There is no secret formula, no special knowledge or technique, no machine that goes ping. The only way they can determine the sex of the infant is to ask them when they are old enough to speak. All children, or almost all children, whether intersex or not, know what sex they are. Their brain tells them so. There is no special procedure or special evidence other than this.

... These surgeons are imposing a gender - whether boy or girl, man or woman - on these children regardless of whether they are intersex and male, or intersex and female, intersex and neither male nor female, or intersex and both male and female. The surgeons are creating confusion where none exists for the child..."

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 3:03:30 PM PDT
Astrin Ymris says:
Michael Altarriba,

Re: "...I hope this sort of naive, destructive attitude goes away. Strictly defined gender roles are bad. Gender roles defined by the blade of a scalpel are a barbarism that has no place in modern civilized society..."

From your mouth to God's ear.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 3:04:55 PM PDT
Macaron says:
ASTRIN wrote::: ... These surgeons are imposing a gender - whether boy or girl, man or woman - on these children regardless of whether they are intersex and male, or intersex and female, intersex and neither male nor female, or intersex and both male and female. The surgeons are creating confusion where none exists for the child..."

Mac::: AH, ok, now this is very interesting and explains some of your other posts to me. Thanks :))

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 3:05:37 PM PDT
Astrin Ymris says:
D. Thomas,

Actually, Ethan Johnson is wrong on all three. ;-D

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 3:12:31 PM PDT
dischism says:
Astrin

It's not really surprising that they're so biased towards assigning a male gender preferentially when you think of the problem that exists in India with sex selective abortion, I suppose. <sigh> So much misery caused because of prejudice and patriarchal preconceptions.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 3:13:44 PM PDT
Astrin Ymris says:
arpard fazakas,

I presume as a woman, since the pronoun "she" is used in the story.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 3:55:37 PM PDT
S. Kessler says:
Well, that earned an ignore. Call one person a cretin and tell the other one to shut up. Lovely. Bye now, I have no interest in anything else you may have to say.
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